Naresh Vissa, founder of Krish Media & Marketing

Mark welcomes Naresh Vissa, founder of Krish Media & Marketing.
We discuss CA Bill 1955, CCP, TikTok & more.
https://www.krishmediamarketing.com/
X: @xnareshx
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(0:00) Hey everybody and welcome to another episode of Knocked Conscious. Today I had the pleasure of (0:06) speaking with Naresh Vissa. He is the founder of Krish Media and Marketing.It was an amazing (0:14) conversation. I met him at Freedom Fest. We tried to get a conversation there but we decided to (0:20) table it until we got back in our own homes but just had that conversation.It was amazing. (0:25) Here it is. I hope you enjoy it.(0:29) All right, Naresh. Naresh Vissa, correct? Not Visa? (0:34) Vissa, that’s perfect. Vissa, yeah, absolutely.(0:37) Excellent. Naresh, so happy that you joined us on Knocked Conscious. (0:41) We’re going to get right to it.Really quickly, we met at Freedom Fest last week. (0:45) I have not slept a wink. You have no idea what my week’s been like.(0:49) I don’t know if you’re an MMA fan. Are you an MMA fan at all? (0:53) I know there was a big fight on Saturday night. (0:56) Well, you know like the old UFC stuff back in the day? (0:59) Yeah.(0:59) There’s a guy named Pat Miletic who was a UFC champion and he coaches champions. (1:05) Okay. (1:05) He came to my house for a barbecue on Tuesday, yesterday, literally.(1:11) For what? How does he know you? (1:14) Oh, Freedom Fest? (1:14) Totally through Freedom Fest. Absolutely through the Injected booth, (1:18) through the people through Injected. We’ll talk about all that but I’m like, (1:21) I’m just telling you, man, my week has been crazy.(1:24) I talked to Bobby Azarian for two hours on Monday. (1:26) I had a podcast earlier today with Kelly Patrick. (1:29) So let’s get into it.(1:30) Right away at Freedom Fest, I spoke with Amy Bond of PERC and there was this California bill, (1:37) 1955, and literally had a conversation with her on Thursday. (1:42) It’s on the government’s desk that it will ban the information of children (1:49) transitioning to their parents. (1:50) So they are banned from knowing.(1:52) The parents are banned from knowing. (1:54) Have you heard about this? (1:56) Because Amy was talking about it and on Monday, I think Gavin signed it into law. (2:03) I think it was on his desk.(2:05) It’s a law. It’s a law now. (2:06) I’d love for you to start talking about that because that’s going to start going (2:10) into that other part that we want to talk about, which is what you focus on as well.(2:14) I mean, I focus on a lot of different things. (2:16) I know that’s the thing. (2:18) We only have an hour, man.(2:19) It’s crazy because just listening, I know we’re going to talk many times over. (2:24) So please share your thoughts. (2:27) So regarding the transgender bill, first off, this goes back to what our founding fathers wanted (2:35) and really how they framed the Constitution.(2:39) And our founding fathers wanted limited government. (2:43) So first off, this gender stuff, this was not even a top thousand issue in 1783, 1776, 1783. (2:55) This was not even a top that like this literally, they were too busy fighting for freedom.(3:00) They were too busy. (3:02) You know, all these our founding fathers, every single one of them was a convicted felon. (3:07) And people wonder right now, how can a convicted felon run for president? (3:12) The reason is because our founding fathers were all convicted felons.(3:16) Many of them, after attaining freedom, many of them died penniless. (3:21) They spent everything and they sacrificed everything. (3:25) So this talk about transgender stuff, if we were to go back to 1776 or 1783, (3:32) the founding fathers would look at us and be like, why is this even a topic? (3:35) We have a country to start and to run.(3:39) So first off, this bill is specifically about transgender kids, not transgender adults. (3:47) Those are two very different population samples. (3:52) If you’re an adult and by law, it’s 18 and up, I would make the case I have two kids.(4:00) It would be more like 21 and up. (4:02) I’d actually argue 25 for the brain to fully mature. (4:06) But I would once again, I think we’re libertarian.(4:08) We could delve into that also a little bit deeper after. (4:11) But I’d love to hear your. (4:12) Yeah, well, the bottom line is there’s a big difference between a 10 year old and a 21 year old, (4:18) even a 10 year old and an 18 year old.(4:21) So there’s pre puberty and post puberty. (4:24) Generally, puberty is done by the time you turn 18. (4:29) Transgenderism in children at the age of, let’s say, 10 is a mental health disorder.(4:37) And this is backed up by science, by the DSM one. (4:46) So the DSM is the psychiatric manual. (4:50) It’s called the DSM.(4:53) And right now, I believe that we’re at the DSM five and the DSM six is going to be coming out soon. (5:02) So we’re at the DSM five right now in DSM one through four. (5:06) There is an actual mental health disorder called gender identity disorder.(5:11) G.I.D. (5:12) It is an actual psychiatric disorder. (5:17) In DSM five, because of, you can call it pressure, wokeism, the radical left, (5:24) they changed it from using that term disorder to gender dysphoria. (5:30) The bottom line is it is still gender dysphoria, still a disorder.(5:34) So when people say transgenderism is a mental health disorder, (5:39) this is scientifically proved. (5:41) This is a scientific fact. (5:42) It is in, read the DSM, read all about gender identity disorder, about gender dysphoria.(5:50) And it is a serious illness. (5:52) This is not, this is not something to go out and celebrate and take off your clothes and, (5:59) you know, drink alcohol and yeah, hooray. (6:03) This is a serious disorder because transgender people, (6:09) not just transgender children, tend to have higher unemployment rates, (6:14) tend to have higher homelessness rates, tend to have higher incarceration rates.(6:21) Most importantly, the biggest statistic is they tend to have (6:27) way higher suicide attempt rates and suicide rates. (6:31) And it’s almost half, it’s almost 50%. (6:33) It’s above 40% as far as suicide attempt rates go.(6:37) And the argument from the left is, oh, well, (6:40) all of these unemployment and suicide rates and suicide attempts, (6:45) it’s because society isn’t treating them properly. (6:48) And so they feel like they need to commit suicide because they don’t fit into society. (6:53) And there is partial truth in that.(6:57) But at the end of the day, this is a psychiatric disorder. (7:01) And especially in children, the compassionate thing to do would not be (7:08) like what they’re doing in California to embrace it. (7:12) The compassionate thing to do for a 10 year old child, I have a four and a half year old child.(7:18) And, you know, now I heard this disorder is starting younger and younger at six, seven years (7:24) of age. The compassionate thing to do is to go to a psychologist or a psychiatrist and to seek (7:30) treatment to see, hey, is this a fad or is this for real? (7:35) And if it is for real, you go through puberty, you go through the counseling, (7:40) you go through puberty. And when you’re 18 years old by law, (7:46) then you’re free to make the decision.The child who is now an adult is free to (7:52) make the decision whether they want to move forward with the transition and whatnot. (7:57) So the problem with this bill is that it circumnavigates the parents. (8:03) And now you’re leaving the decision to the state.(8:08) Because if the parents are becoming your parent when it should be your fucking child, (8:13) I’m sick of it. I’m sick of it. The nanny’s just over it.(8:17) They literally become that is a prime example of the nanny state where you hire a nanny for your (8:23) three-month-old child. But now for a three-month-old child, while you go off to work, (8:29) now you have a 13-year-old child. You’re off at work.You have no idea that your kid is transgender (8:35) and they’re doing all this stuff that the government, they’re making the decisions. (8:39) They’re deciding the treatments, if any. They’re making the decisions on your behalf.(8:44) Parents determine the future of their children. Parents determine the education of their children, (8:50) not the public school system, not the Department of Education. (8:55) So the most important thing to take away, to glean from this is gender identity disorder.(9:02) Gender dysphoria is a mental health disorder, according to the DSM. That is the (9:06) official psychiatric manual. We are at the DSM-5.I’ve heard rumors that they’re even (9:12) going to get rid of gender dysphoria in the DSM-6. I think they’re going to. That’s what (9:16) I was about to say, because people will argue.Look, I am 100% on board exactly what you’re (9:23) saying. But people are going to argue that homosexuality was in the DSM-1, I think, (9:28) as a disorder or something. So look, this is you and I. We can logically talk about it from a very (9:34) stoic, sensible point of view.If you are under X age, you are not yet capable of that decision. (9:42) You are also not capable of a parent making that decision for you because there is an actual (9:47) impedance to the natural process. That impedance alone indicates abuse of children.That is a (9:54) non-starter, in my opinion. And I don’t have children. I just think children should be (9:59) protected.At that point, I would even argue that children could dress as the other gender if they (10:07) choose because that really doesn’t harm anything. It doesn’t impede with the natural process. (10:12) So anything short of blockers, therapies, mutilations, I’m good.So what are your (10:20) thoughts about those things? Well, look, the medical industry, (10:23) as we saw during the pandemic, they’re a business. And there’s a big fight right now (10:28) to have insurance companies cover these treatments. So previously, the insurance companies didn’t (10:34) cover any of these treatments.So the doctors were getting paid cash. The surgeons, the OBGYNs, (10:39) the urologists, the plastic surgeons, the endocrinologists, they’re getting paid in hard cash. (10:47) The moment insurance starts accepting these ubiquitously, then you’re going to see mass (10:52) marketing from the doctors.And when I say marketing, I don’t mean nice little commercials (10:57) on TV. I mean the serious, hey, the only solution to fix this is the puberty blocker or the surgery. (11:06) This will save you.Exactly. It is the easiest marketing profession in the world because you (11:13) put on that white coat, you have an MD at the end of your name, and all of a sudden, people, (11:17) they listen to you. Your average patient knows next to nothing.They’re probably hearing the (11:24) DSM for the first time in this interview. By the way, it stands for the Diagnostic (11:27) and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders. So it’s scary.Yes. And to that point, (11:35) you saw Spike, I think, at FreedomFest. And here it is.Once again, we have the state (11:40) looking at a child or the corporate, the corporate capture of the state looking at the child as a (11:46) dollar sign. That’s what they see. They see the hormone therapy or the pills, then the blockers, (11:52) then the therapies, then they mutilate, then the surgeries, then the post-treatment.(11:57) Everything is a treatment. They don’t want to cure anything. They just want to extend (12:01) this suffering.It’s ridiculous. Well, once you have a patient, you hook them on for life (12:05) because this is very difficult to transition. It’s not like you just go have a surgery.(12:11) I can just go have a surgery tomorrow, and all of a sudden, I’m a woman. This is a long, (12:16) long process. And they can hook you on to the Medicaid, especially when you started a child (12:23) young.They can hook you on to the medication. Look, my whole thing, again, parents need to (12:29) make this decision. Even in the case of abortions, for example, I do believe that there should be (12:37) exceptions for abortion.And people keep talking about the three exceptions that Reagan advocated (12:43) for, which is rape, incest, and the health of the mother. But I would add a fourth one, (12:49) which is the health of the baby. Because if you’re giving birth to a dead baby, (12:53) there’s really no point in going forward with the pregnancy, which I know people personally (12:58) who decided to move forward.It was completely their choice, which is great. But they said, (13:03) hey, our baby is going to be born dead, but we’re okay with that. We want to move forward with the (13:09) out of, because it deserves its two seconds of life or however long of life it had.That’s fine. (13:16) That would be a fourth one. And a fifth one that I would add, which ties into this transgender stuff, (13:23) is teenage pregnancies.So when you’re a teenager, you’re still a minor. And so your parent or your (13:30) guardian should be the one making the decision whether to keep the baby or to get rid of the (13:35) baby. It should not be up to a 14-year-old.Interesting perspective. I like that. I like (13:39) that you’ve had a thought, a really interesting thought on that.And it should not be up to a (13:45) 14-year-old to make that decision, because a lot of 14-year-olds, I don’t have any statistics on (13:52) this, but they’re obviously going to think- I don’t even think they know what happened to get (13:55) that way. I’m not going to lie. What did I know at 14, man? You met that kid, Stephen, the volunteer (14:03) at Freedom Fest.That kid was talking about Thomas Sowell. And here I am going, at 14? (14:09) I didn’t even know my butt from a hole in the ground, right? (14:15) I didn’t know even more than that when I was 14. But with that being said, this goes back because (14:23) the parents should be the ones deciding.And we’re all for freedom and liberty. But when you’re a (14:32) parental guardian, or your legal guardians, they should be in the know, and they should be making (14:39) that decision, just like with these legal actors. And to the extent that we know that the guardians (14:46) are not doing anything duplicitous or anything as well, right? Obviously, if they were doing (14:51) something, we knew about it.We would then intervene in some aspect, at least. (14:56) Well, I will say this, because somebody who I know, who are many people I know on the left, (15:03) say, look, parents are stupid. That’s why the government has to step in.(15:08) Yeah, because the government is so smart. (15:10) That’s why the government has to step in and make these decisions, because parents are dumb. Most (15:15) parents should not be parents.They should have never had kids. And initially, when I heard that, (15:19) I thought, okay, this is kind of ridiculous. But now that I am a parent and I meet other parents, (15:23) there’s a little bit of merit to that.But the government- (15:26) Well, there is. I mean, come on. There’s a bell curve of how we disperse across how it is.And (15:33) we’re kind of more here than we are on the edges. You know what I mean? It’s just how it is. (15:37) But the bottom line is, you cannot ascertain or you cannot force this law on all parents, (15:46) because there are some very good parents out there, and they should be making these (15:49) decisions for their kids.That’s important. (15:50) You can’t mandate that stuff. No.(15:52) You cannot mandate it across the board. And when it comes to- (15:55) And if I could- Oh, go ahead. (15:58) Yeah.Well, again, with the transgender stuff, we haven’t even touched on it, (16:03) because puberty is such a transformative process. I’m sure there are people who you’ve met, (16:08) friends, kids, or maybe you remember when you were a kid, maybe you went to school with a kid (16:13) in elementary school, and then you went to a different middle school and a different high (16:18) school, and then you saw them in college, and you’re like, whoa, you’re a completely different (16:21) person. Puberty is such a transformative process.Those years from, let’s say, 12 to 17, (16:30) you won’t even recognize somebody. And to be making a decision on the future of someone’s (16:35) life and their fertility and their gender and their sexuality, there are two genders, by the way. (16:40) That’s why it’s called gender identity disorder.There are two genders. Gender was not even (16:47) a term until the 1960s, when the transgender movement, the LGBTQ- (16:51) Those three French bastards? (16:54) When they came on- Yeah, I know. (16:55) And they created this whole gender thing, because it was just sex.It was just either (16:59) a male or a female. Those sociologists, right? (17:01) There were actual hybrids where you could be born with a special chromosome, and very rare cases (17:10) where you could be not a male or a female. I mean, very, very rare, but there was not this concept (17:15) I can just pick my gender.And so the 60s- Hold on, nor could you be a fucking bird. (17:24) Yeah. Or a dog, or a ferret, (17:28) or some other weird… I heard some stuff, man.I saw some stuff. I can’t do that. But anyway.(17:35) Bring up a good point, because this, again, brings up a really good topic about, we stick with the (17:41) transgender stuff, but something that people- No, we don’t need to do that. Let’s talk (17:46) conceptually at a 50,000-foot level, because I think trans is just a subset of all the other (17:52) stuff that we’re talking about. It’s all cultural.It is. (17:55) So let’s talk about your point. Let’s go to your- (17:57) But there is one thing that’s important, and that is, yeah, okay, you go through all this, (18:02) you do the transition.Now, you’re a different gender. And by the way, there are now apparently (18:08) 109 different genders, so it’s not male or female. I said there are two genders.You can (18:14) look this up, and it’s a very difficult- Yeah. Facebook has, I think, at least 70 on there. (18:20) Yeah.Oh, really? I haven’t even- Yeah. (18:23) I remember when they only had two back in like 2007. (18:26) And by the way, my girlfriend’s flying back from an education conference right now in Chicago, (18:32) and she texted me the number of times that I heard Chan Zuckerberg Foundation (18:38) is too many to count.Welcome to corporate capture, (18:43) late-stage capitalism, ladies and gentlemen. Well, the transition is important because (18:48) just because you successfully transitioned, and this is something that Caitlyn Jenner, who is, (18:53) you can call her a politician in California, this is something that she talks about. (18:58) After you’re done with all that, the puberty blockers, and the medications, and the surgeries, (19:04) and you feel comfortable, well now, all of a sudden, guys night out becomes girls night out.(19:10) And how are those girls going to treat you? Are they going to treat you? Are you going to find (19:15) your people? Are your people going to be your gender, or are your people going to be other (19:20) transgenders who are not able to fit in? Because I’ll tell you right now, I have a guys night out (19:25) in our neighborhood, like our zip code. It’s a small group of guys, and we go out maybe once a (19:30) month, or once every two months. And if a transgender male wanted to join our group, (19:36) I’d say, yeah, that’s fine.But I know for a fact that they just would not fit in, (19:40) because this is a somewhat alpha male group, let’s call it that. All dads, all very successful, (19:48) somewhat alpha. It’s a stereotypical guys night out.And yeah, you’re welcome to come if you’re (19:57) a transgender male, but you’re not going to fit in. I hate to say it, come, but you’re probably (20:01) not going to come back. And that’s a huge problem.It’s a really, really big problem. (20:06) Just imagine, just try it for a day. Just dress up as a woman, and go try to make women friends.(20:11) Go try to hang out with women, just for fun. See if you can succeed at it. (20:16) Well, personally, I think I’m a beautiful, I make a handsome woman, so I probably do okay.(20:23) I would not do okay, because I know nothing about the nails. (20:27) Yeah, I know. I’m just messing with you.(20:29) Balayage. No, no, I know that. I know you’re messing, but I’ve been a man my entire life, (20:35) and to become a woman one day, to wake up and become a woman, and then ask me to just fit in, (20:40) and it’s difficult.And then dating men, I mean, forget about it. If I’m a man, I become a woman, (20:46) and now all of a sudden, I have to date. I can’t do it.And most of these people, again, (20:51) this has been statistically proven. This is another major reason why so many people go through this (20:56) process, and then they end up regretting it. They get the hysterectomy done.They get the (21:02) surgery. And then after puberty, again, after puberty, they’re 23, 24 years old, (21:07) and they completely regret it. And this is why I’d say in my household, it’s 21 and up.(21:12) In U.S. government, it’s 18 and up. But if you’re 21 and up, you’re a grown adult, (21:20) you’re free to do whatever you want, and you take personal responsibility for it, (21:23) I’m perfectly okay with that. Yeah, I like that.(21:27) That’s just how I feel about it, and I think that’s a very libertarian perspective as well. (21:32) Yeah, for sure, because the whole point is like, you do you. As long as what you do doesn’t really (21:37) affect anyone else.Obviously, as a child, it does affect. As an adult, you can have that choice. (21:43) With the freedoms, this is a beautiful thing about what we want to talk about libertarian (21:46) two points.With the freedoms comes responsibility of that choice. There is causality. If you make (21:53) a decision, there’s going to be some result of that decision.If you decide to make this decision (21:59) to transition, that is certainly on you. But unfortunately, the downside is if you can’t (22:07) really regret and reverse something to that extent where it becomes that. The second point is, (22:14) just in general, is we should just be able to allow people to be a little more understanding (22:19) with it, but also be firm.Firm, but with like a velvet glove, right? In a weird way, because (22:27) sometimes a little too much pressure creates the Ron Paul blowback. Because I think socially, (22:33) in addition to what we’re going to talk about next, China, is going to be the blowback of the (22:41) social people. I’m a Gen Xer.When I was different, we were very much forced to not be different. (22:49) We were very much bullied and whatever. I think our generation is the one that became resentful.(22:55) Then we became into the institutions. To your point, we were captured by that Russian guy (23:02) through the indoctrination. Then they said, fine, you didn’t like me to be me as a kid.(23:07) I will make your children like I was as a kid. I think that’s part of it. A lot of people don’t (23:13) really talk about that much, but I actually see it because I’m from that generation and (23:17) kind of see it from a 30 degree angle.What are your thoughts on something like that? (23:23) Well, I think the first thing is the Chinese Communist Party is behind… The fact that we’ve (23:32) spent 20 minutes, 25 minutes talking about transgender issues in children, which actually (23:41) is not… Again, I said this wouldn’t have been a top thousand issue for our founding fathers. (23:47) This is not even a top 50 issue, maybe even a top 100 issue for most people in the United States. (23:53) That’s just a fact of the matter.Parents here in Florida are not waking up every morning (23:57) thinking about, is my child going to become transgender today? They’re thinking about (24:01) their jobs. They’re thinking about dropping their kids off at school. They’re thinking (24:05) about their health, working out.So it’s jobs, healthcare, education, saving for retirement, (24:12) money, family, faith, God. That’s what they’re thinking about. They’re not thinking about (24:19) these issues.And what’s happened is you have a fringe minority on the left who has hijacked, (24:25) because this is a sexy topic to talk about, even though it’s not applicable to most Americans. (24:35) This whole transgender bathroom issue in North Carolina, what was it, five years ago or so? (24:41) The NBA All-Star Game was canceled because of this bill that was passed. And you had (24:46) coaches in the NBA who drank the Kool-Aid and fell for it.And it’s like, literally, (24:54) seriously, look how small these rallies are. Look how small… These people are so small, (25:00) such a small fraction of not even 1% of the population, and they get the biggest microphone. (25:07) They get the biggest microphone, and they get to take over the airwaves.(25:10) And I think a major reason is because of the Chinese Communist Party. The Chinese Communist (25:15) Party is the strongest network of propaganda in the world. It’s stronger than whatever the (25:23) United States can do with its military.It’s stronger than whatever Russia did 20, 30, 40, (25:29) actually not 20, 30 or 40 years ago. The Chinese Communist… (25:35) You look how strong, even from Mao, how that revolution happened and how (25:41) devastating that was, but how people were completely captured by the ideology. (25:46) Well, the USSR fell in the early 90s, around 1991, 1992.(25:52) 91, right. (25:53) It was like December 91, some people say January 92. So what happened was the head of (26:01) the Chinese Communist Party, his name was Jiang, J-I-A-N-G, Jiang.Jiang Zemin came out, (26:10) and he said, the Cold War is over, but a new Cold War is starting between China and the United (26:15) States. He actually said that, not in those… (26:18) I remember. I actually remember that speech.I’m old enough. I’m pushing 50, my friend. (26:23) I got 15 years on you, and I’ve done one millionth of what you’ve accomplished, (26:27) because we’ll talk about that before we call it.But go ahead. (26:30) Well, he came out and said that. I was only two years old when it happened, (26:34) so I don’t remember.I’m maybe three years old. (26:36) Right. I’m saying I literally lived through that.I was 91. Let’s see. I’m 17, man, (26:41) and I was just enlisting in the military at that point.So yeah, that would be me. (26:45) I didn’t get in. I failed the physical, but I really wanted to die for this country.(26:50) Yeah. Well, I appreciate your earnestness to do that, (26:55) and thanks for whatever service that you were able to do. But anyway… (26:59) I didn’t.Go ahead. There’s real servicemen out there. (27:04) There are.There are. The prime minister came out and said a new (27:07) Cold War is starting with the United States, and we are still in that Cold War (27:11) today. And the people here in the United States don’t even know it, because they are a part of it.(27:16) They’re so brainwashed by it that they don’t even know that they are in the middle of this war. (27:20) From the food that we eat, the medications that we’re prescribed, the vaccines that we take, (27:26) the viruses that we get, the education from the colleges all the way down to elementary school, (27:34) the social media that we’re intaking, the mainstream news media and the advertisements (27:39) that we are intaking. The Chinese Communist Party has ruled over our lives, and they are dictating (27:46) what should be talked about, what our priorities should be.Again, we don’t even know it. (27:51) The fact that we talked for 30 minutes about transgenderism (27:56) shows that the Chinese Communist Party is winning, because they are the ones (28:00) pushing. They don’t push it to their people.This whole transgender ideology is not a thing in China, (28:06) because they control their population, and they start their kids really young. (28:10) By the time their kids are kindergartners, they’re already at a fifth or sixth grade level (28:13) in reading. Yeah, and I even understand their TikTok.I think you have to actually do word and (28:18) puzzles in order to get to the next video for a certain portion. It’s almost instead of doing (28:23) an advertisement for us, instead of feeding us with more mindless mush, they actually make them (28:28) thinking word problems in between. Word problems in between.They’re (28:32) cooking food by kindergarten. They’re cutting vegetables. I mean, they’re just so far ahead, (28:38) and then what they’re trying to do here in the United States- (28:40) And that’s cultural.I mean, that is an impressive cultural feat for certain. (28:44) It is, and there are a lot of positives to it. Look, there are a lot of negatives to communism, (28:49) of course.We know that. Oh, 100%. That’s my mom.(28:52) This is going to end up being a very negative interview about the Chinese Communist Party, (28:57) but there are a lot of positives, just like there were a lot of positives that came out. (29:01) But you and I are pushing the Overton window of freedom, and communism isn’t freedom, so (29:06) it’s already kind of a moot point. We’re already going in knowing what the answer is, right? (29:10) So let’s just break down why we got to that answer, I guess, is really the best way to- (29:15) Yeah, and so people are just wondering, people who are listening are probably like, (29:18) what? The stuff that I’m consuming is China somehow? What? The vitamins that I take, (29:23) China’s involved in the- Toilet paper.(29:25) The toilet paper? Yes, and this is why- Remember, there was a shortage. (29:30) We couldn’t wipe our asses for months. Very likely the toilet paper was (29:37) manufactured in China, just like the Pfizer vaccine.The Pfizer vaccine, they created the (29:42) virus, and they manufactured the vaccine, the Chinese Communist Party did. And so- (29:50) On that point, Bret Weinstein. Bret Weinstein was at Freedom Fest, and I remember the April 2020 (29:57) talk with Rogan about the email saying, this cleavage point thing, this cleavage site thing (30:03) just doesn’t look of natural origin or something.And that, for me, immediately was the tick. And (30:09) that was right a month after they had shut down Vegas. I remember that.(30:13) Well, for me, it was, again, the Chinese Communist Party. This was supposed to be the Wuhan virus. (30:20) A lot of people called it the China virus.And because we’ve called the Marburg virus, (30:25) the West Nile virus, the Zika virus, the- Spanish flu. (30:31) Spanish flu. The list goes on and on and on and on, where the country of origin or the place (30:38) of origin has always been the nomenclature for these viruses.And it was the Chinese Communist (30:45) Party who was already in bed with the mainstream news media through advertisements, through (30:52) investments. Remember, China’s the largest debt holder of the United States. China owns the most (30:58) number of government bonds out of anyone else, U.S. government bonds.So how does China attack (31:05) its enemies? Well, the first thing it does is it takes stakes in its enemies, whether it’s buying (31:11) U.S. real estate. Their goal was to buy as much real estate as possible, to own as much U.S. debt (31:19) as possible, because if you own somebody financially, then they’re hooked onto you. (31:23) If you want to destroy a family’s life- That is a new slavery.That is the true- (31:28) Absolutely a new slavery. And if you want to destroy a family’s life, give them free money. (31:33) Give them free money, and then two years later, not even two years later, they get so addicted (31:38) to your money- Purpose goes away.(31:39) That their purpose goes away, and they will get addicted to your money, and they will do anything (31:43) so that you can keep giving them that money and you will own them. And that’s what the Chinese (31:47) Communist Party does with our educational institutions. When they open up these China (31:52) centers in major campuses, when they’re foreign exchange programs, study abroad programs, even (31:58) degree programs in China, they can dictate what’s being taught and how it’s being taught, not just (32:05) in China, but in the United States.How do they infiltrate our lower level? Well, they’re able (32:14) to donate through the back door, through a very, very complex back door. They’re able to donate (32:21) to politicians. They don’t outright pay off.Sometimes in the case of the Bidens, they’ll just (32:26) outright pay off the politician, the Chinese Communist Party, through some entity. But through (32:31) many, many back doors, it’ll find its way back into a super PAC or into some type of campaign (32:38) donation. Going back to the lower schools, the social media, lower school teachers are now so (32:44) consumed by social media.They get content, they get ideas through TikTok, through Instagram and (32:49) Facebook and X, YouTube. And the Chinese Communist Party, whether through taking stakes in these (32:56) countries, like in the case of TikTok, they own TikTok, ByteDance, they actually own that. They take big (33:02) stakes through the back door.Once again, they take big stakes in companies like Meta and in Google. (33:09) How do they do that? Well, one major reason, one major way they do it is by investing in asset (33:17) managers like BlackRock. And they do this through Chinese entities.So they’ll invest in these large (33:24) funds like BlackRock. The three biggest are BlackRock, State Street and Vanguard. (33:29) I know.I know. I struggle. I’ll talk to you offline about that.(33:35) They’ll invest in these funds and these funds take huge stakes. You can look up for yourself (33:43) Meta’s largest stakeholders. (33:45) Well, look how much BlackRock purchased of Ukrainian land.No one’s even talking about that. (33:50) While hundreds of thousands, it’s not tens of thousands. Let’s not kid ourselves.Hundreds (33:55) of thousands of people are dead over this thing. And all BlackRock’s doing is shuffling, (34:01) shoveling up the breadbasket that has now been poisoned by mercury in the munitions, in addition (34:07) to unexploded munitions, in addition from the cluster bombs that we admonished Putin using, (34:13) yet use ourselves. This is the hypocrisy of these things.And I go from like zero to 100 (34:19) and then I’ll calm it down. So, all right, I’m good again. (34:22) It’s absolute hypocrisy.But at the same time, look, the Chinese Communist Party, (34:28) these aren’t a bunch of idiots, just like the Russian communists. They’re not idiots. (34:33) No.They have a really good 50-year plan. They are focused on a long-term solution to their problems. (34:41) Super focused.And they send, as Trump says, Mexico and Honduras and Guatemala and Venezuela, (34:49) they’re not sending us their best people. China does send their best people to the United States. (34:55) They send those people here for either on tech contracts or for school, like graduate school (35:01) or even undergrad, science, math, technology.They’ll come here, they’ll get our education, (35:06) they’ll see what the Americans are doing, and then they go back to China. (35:10) Did you hear how they did that? Did you ever hear Brett Weinstein dissect how they did that? (35:16) Oh, so basically, once again, we have to be a little culpable for our part in this, (35:22) in the capitalist part, because the capitalists have now taken over a lot of the lobbyists and (35:26) a lot of the government parts. But the science changed to where they started importing scientists (35:32) from abroad because it would lower the rate for scientists here.So they did it, once again, (35:39) immigration to lower the costs of scientists in America to be used. And by doing so, China took (35:46) advantage of that policy and flooded the universities with their students because they are (35:52) not stupid. They’re like, oh, this is a great idea.And it’s a really interesting one. I recommend (35:57) people look at the one with Brett Weinstein where he dissects that part about the number of (36:01) scientists and how foreign, just general, but specifically China, because it is specifically (36:07) a problem with China. They specifically were infiltrated using these policies against us.(36:13) Well, again, just really smart. In the USSR, there was the head of the KGB did an interview (36:20) with 60 Minutes again when I was like two years old. He did an interview and he said (36:29) that.Hold on one second. Hold on one second. What is it? (36:36) So he said that if you want to take over a country, you don’t, especially the United States, (36:44) you don’t take over the country with military and arms and bombs.You’re not going to win. (36:49) The way that you take over a country is by infiltrating their education system, (36:55) especially the lower education system. And then you work your way up, because (36:59) if you do that, then you can brainwash.It was Yuri Bezmenov, right? You’re talking about? (37:04) Yuri Bezmenov said that. Yeah. OK.I just want to do it for the audience because we need to (37:10) have these contact pieces. Yeah. Yeah.And if you want to take over a country, you can (37:17) brainwash those kids at a young age. They grow up, they become adults, they become communists, (37:23) they become these people who you watch on TV. They end up becoming transgender and (37:28) marching for Palestine.That’s what they grow up to become. And he said that in the early 90s. (37:37) Those kids today are like me.They’re now in their mid 30s, and some of them do procreate, (37:42) and they’re going to keep that cycle running, hopefully, meaning that’s what this guy said. (37:48) That’s how you take over a country. That’s how you take over a nation.(37:52) That’s why it was the Cold War, because they knew we got no chance. We’re not going to fight the US (37:56) with our military. The Chinese know.And that was the thing. But they did it physically. They (38:00) actually had physical agents here.What China’s done is create TikTok and create this algorithm (38:07) that takes our complete attention the entire time. And now they’re able to indoctrinate us (38:12) digitally without needing to even be physically in your space, in your classroom. It’s a pretty (38:18) impressive way that they’ve done this.It’s not just science. It’s not just science, neurology. (38:25) We saw what they did with the pandemic.I like calling it the Wuhan virus or what it is actually (38:31) called severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus disease 2. SARS-CoV-2. SARS-CoV-2. They created (38:41) that.And you said you heard this Bret Weinstein in 2020. I actually talked to infectious disease (38:48) doctors in private practice, because if you work for a corporation or you work for an academic (38:53) Chinese Communist Party is involved, or you’re basically just hooked on this job and you just (38:58) don’t know. But the private practice people who are passionate about their jobs, I talked to many (39:03) of them.And they said coronavirus, because I was like, what is this? I’ve never heard of (39:07) coronavirus. What is this? And they said coronavirus has been around for decades upon decades, since (39:13) the 1930s is when it was first animal on animal contact. Then it went from animal to humans, (39:19) and then human to human contact was around the 30s or so, if I’m not mistaken.And they said (39:25) it’s been around forever. And for it to mutate, because there was a, if they would, again, (39:32) China calls it COVID and the entire world picked up COVID when it should be SARS-2, because remember (39:36) SARS-1 in 2001. But there was a coronavirus.I do. There was a COVID-18, there was a COVID-17. (39:45) So to mutate from the coronavirus 18 to what they call COVID-19 is almost statistically (39:54) impossible.They said you should never rule it out. I mean, there’s like such a 0.000 goes on (39:59) forever. Well, look, biology is a son of a gun at times, but let’s not kid ourselves.(40:06) It didn’t even look that way under a microscope. It looked like it was attached in some (40:10) unique way from what the initial reports that I had in hindsight had. Well, the experience people (40:17) said the only way it could have mutated their medical opinion was it had to have been created (40:23) in a lab.That’s the only way it could have gained a function research in a lab. And most of the ones (40:29) I talked to were like, look, we don’t think this was intentional. We think they were doing (40:33) research in the lab and it escaped.And they were like, oh, shoot. And this global pandemic (40:38) was unleashed. And still our government is trying to cover it up and not take responsibility for it, (40:44) not not say outright, hey, it wasn’t a lab.It escaped the lab. They’re still going with (40:50) the bat theory. They are kind of changing.But I mean, well, yeah, they’re kind of changing. (40:55) It’s only because it doesn’t matter anymore. They’re just going to bleed it till the statute (40:59) limitations run out.Then they’re going to flood the market with, oh, my gosh, (41:02) shocking new developments in the covid covid drama situation. Yep. Yep.So that’s how they play it. (41:11) That’s how they play it in the Chinese Communist Party. Like I said, I touched on education.I (41:16) touched on social media. I touched on how they’re involved with owning our debt, owning real estate, (41:22) BlackRock, State Street, Vanguard, the positions that they take through Chinese investment management (41:27) firms. They’re able to get board seats.BlackRock, these large companies are able to get board seats (41:33) on major corporations like Disney, for example, like Nike. They’re able to get (41:38) board seats so that it is OK to use Uyghur slave labor, child slave labor to to make cars, to make (41:47) shoes. They are able to use or not use.They are able to come out with Disney movies in the United (41:56) States that will have a subliminal pro LGBTQ or pro transgender or just something that’s that’s not (42:05) appropriate for a five year old. They’re able to get that G rating put in the United States, (42:11) but then when they air it in China, they cut that part out for their for their people there. (42:15) They are able to have a license over, hey, you should make a movie about X, Y and Z (42:20) because we have these board seats.So that’s the amount of. (42:25) And if not, they’ll just steal your intellectual property, right? (42:27) Got to that, too. And they have way better scientists, way better people, (42:32) way better mathematicians, I.T. people, engineers.I mean, you name it. Media like they do have a (42:39) unitary focus and it and it is it is impressive in the things that can be accomplished. (42:47) We’re just not enjoying the style at which it’s being accomplished.(42:54) Yeah. So, I mean, I think we touched on all the different areas that the Chinese Communist Party. (43:01) Yeah.If I could touch on one more about about SARS, right, let’s do it on in September. (43:06) I think it was like September 19th or 20th that that the Wuhan database suddenly went offline, (43:13) suddenly went offline. And I don’t think it’s been up again.And they said it was some hack (43:17) that they had. Right. And that was right.Of course, we know that. And then October is actually (43:24) when the Wuhan game started. That’s when the actual Wuhan really allegedly spread because (43:29) Italy, it turned out, had a lot of competitors that had brought it back because Italy, remember, (43:34) was a real hot spot early.Italy was like the first when it went mainstream. Italy is one. (43:41) Look, I could talk for I’ve done interviews for like, I’m sure you have four hours on because (43:46) I stayed on top of everything from beginning to end.And even a lot of libertarians may not like (43:52) what I have to say. But I was I don’t want to say I was pro vaccine, but I was very much, (43:56) hey, look, this vaccine does work. It does do somewhat of a job.And the data shows that (44:06) it does mitigate the effects. Now, they were just completely wrong. Part of it is they were (44:10) just terrible communicators.And I could they should have hired me as a communications consultant (44:15) because I could have. Well, we could we could argue that, though, because how do you explain (44:18) the negative effects versus the positive? We’re talking risk, risk, risk, reward here. (44:23) And then we go age group and lower.Right. Obviously, I know you would have looked at it (44:27) logically that way because I did not vaccinate and I’m diabetic. I’m type two diabetic.I did (44:32) not vaccinate. I supplemented and I got healthier. I got my blood levels in check.I told but I did (44:38) tell I was sub 50. But I did say to your point, I was like, from what it seems, anyone 50 year (44:44) older should take it. That’s what I said.And from what it seems, anyone 50 year old should take it. (44:48) And that’s where I was until I saw the other stuff in hindsight. I wasn’t even I said anybody (44:52) above 60 should take it.And so I would have actually recommended that you because you said (44:58) you were diabetic, I would have anybody with a preexisting condition would have taken it. (45:04) And I say this, I say this. I understand that as well.And I yeah, if I was single, (45:09) I wouldn’t have taken it. But I was taking care of my son. And I just couldn’t afford to lose (45:16) three weeks of my time because my brother got it.I have family members get it. And they were (45:19) I agree 100 percent. And I agree 100 percent.But but the other thing that nobody talks about (45:26) is they treated all three vaccines the same. There’s a huge difference between Moderna, (45:30) Pfizer and Johnson and Johnson. Two of them are mRNA vaccines and one of them was in a (45:35) traditional adenovirus vaccine.I want the traditional adenovirus vaccine because those (45:41) are the I think they painted it. They did. I think they painted it.Oh, you think they (45:45) painted that one specific? Yeah, because remember, they pulled Johnson for side effects or whatever, (45:50) but they had stored it in proper temperatures and things like that. And because it was a very (45:54) different virus, they needed mRNA to stick. I’m like I have pulled the veil back so many different (46:00) ways.And I can only see I only see the motive of the dollar. I only see the motive of the control. (46:06) And I hate that I see that.But it’s like all signs point to yes. You know what I mean? (46:12) Well, I took I took J&J, whether it was what I heard from some pharmacists. Again, (46:17) they didn’t have 100 percent confidence.They’re like, yeah, you know that J&J is like water. It’s (46:21) just like it’s not a real thing. And I say, hey, look, I’ll get my vaccine card and I don’t want (46:26) the mRNA.I got I got that. I got the J&J booster. Then they pulled it.And and so unfortunately, (46:33) I look back and I’m like, man, maybe I shouldn’t have gotten that. I got the bivalent Pfizer (46:37) vaccine. I look back on that.Hey, what can you do if I were to go back again? I would not have (46:42) gotten that one again. That’s a vaccine that we look we make choices and then we just deal with (46:47) them. And that’s the thing is we can have these open conversations about how we how we feel about (46:52) it.And that doesn’t change our relationship or how, you know, because we’re still exchanging (46:55) ideas, we’re exchanging ideas. But but again, if like my dad, for example, he was in his like late (47:02) 60s and I did tell him, I said, hey, like you should stay at home, avoid crowds and get the (47:09) vaccine. Whereas I was telling my friends like, what do you do? Are you staying at home? You’re (47:13) like 30 years old and you’re healthy and you go to the gym and you work out like what are you doing? (47:16) You’re not going to this party because of why are you masking up? You know, so that’s where when you (47:22) pass and you had a measured response, that’s that is the measured response.You saw the data, you (47:26) you knew it was inversely related to age and that and then that’s how it worked. I mean, so once (47:32) again, your conclusion doesn’t hold water. It holds it has merit to it.It does hold water and has (47:37) merit. But you had so many people on the radical left coming after people like me who are like, (47:42) you’re spreading misinformation, you’re discouraging people from getting the vaccine (47:46) face mask. Same thing.Was I anti face mask? Absolutely. I hated them. I couldn’t stand them.(47:51) But there was one face mask and 95 masks that actually had way more effectiveness than these (47:57) nonsense paper masks that had almost 0% effectiveness. So whenever I saw, let’s say a (48:02) medical professional wearing a paper mask, I’d say, why are you doing that? Like you’re not maybe (48:07) to keep like your spit or whatever from falling on a patient, which is why they were created in (48:12) the first place. I get it, but they were wearing it because of COVID.And I’m like, that doesn’t (48:16) get yourself an N95, or there was a shortage of them. So then get yourself a KN95. I’m not a big, (48:23) I actually, where I was in my life, I didn’t care if I got COVID.I actually wanted to get it. And I (48:30) I don’t want to say I tried getting it. But I just went about my life, not even thinking about it.(48:35) I did too. And I just and I thought, hey, if I get it, good, I got the antibodies, (48:40) and I can move on with my life. I actually didn’t get it took about two years for me to finally (48:44) get it.And I knew that was the first time I got it. Because when I did get it, I lost the usual, (48:49) I lost my taste, I lost my smell. That had never happened before.It took two years. And by that (48:54) point, I had already gotten three vaccines, the two J&Js plus the one Pfizer. So I didn’t vaccinate (49:01) and I got it at a Cardinals game.I’m pretty certain my first one and I got it. I breezed (49:06) through it twice. But I’m telling you, I got all my stuff in line.I got all my supplements in order. (49:11) And like when I hit it, it was like, it was a little sore throat here and a little bit of (49:16) thing. I didn’t miss a day of work.Nothing. And I didn’t miss I didn’t miss it. We’re also (49:21) different biologically.Yeah, I think you and I probably got the same one. It wasn’t Omicron. It (49:25) wasn’t Delta.It was like I got an Omicron. I got it. That’s what I think it was.And it was like, (49:29) very, very, very transmissible, but much less wrong. I felt like shit. Yeah, I didn’t feel great.(49:37) And I did lose taste as well. But like, I actually, which was a mistake looking back. (49:43) I was like, shit, I’m gonna still go for my runs, play tennis.And I did looking back, (49:47) I probably should have taken it easy because that can stress the heart out a little bit after reading (49:51) about more. Thank God I was good enough. I was good enough to where I could play a full game (49:56) of tennis and go pretty hard at it and run, you know, a mile, mile and a half, not not wins.(50:03) So it again, I’ve had sicknesses that were way worse than that way worse. I mean, (50:07) I had a stomach virus earlier this year that was way worse. I’ve had headaches that were way worse.(50:11) So anyway, going back to the Chinese Communist Party, we’ve explained how they’ve infiltrated (50:17) our system. They are the enemy. We should absolutely put tariffs on their goods.We (50:21) need to become independent from China. We need to make our own stuff or replace China. (50:26) I actually liked Obama’s TPP, his Trans-Pacific Partnership, where you can basically replace (50:34) China with India, Malaysia, Indonesia, Australia, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Pakistan, Bangladesh.I (50:42) mean, there are so many Asian nations out there who are dying to do business with the United States (50:48) at the same price that China is charging. So I hope that I’m not completely protectionist (50:58) because that will lead to inflation. If you’re 100 percent protectionist, I hope Trump does (51:03) does consider a partnership with these Asian nations to replace China and we eventually just (51:10) remove all dependence from China.Let me ask you this because it’s going to be the libertarian (51:16) pushback. And I’m I’m only speaking as a conduit because I’m here to exchange ideas and not just (51:22) and move the Overton window. I think I would love for you to come on later at another time when you (51:26) have more time, possibly with an economist about regarding tariffs, because people would, (51:31) libertarians would say tariffs are taxes on us.Yeah. So it raises the price. It’s a natural (51:38) inflationary piece on us.And I’m sure you have a short answer and I’d love to hear that one, (51:43) but then maybe we can talk about it some other time as well. Yeah. So you bring up the Overton (51:49) window.I’m going to talk about Occam’s razor, which is the first the first, the most logical (51:54) answer usually is the right answer. So with this covid, the China virus, the most logical answer (52:02) is, hey, this was like this came from a lab. The most logical.Yeah. One hundred percent. (52:07) You implement a tariff and that means the prices of everything you you implement a 10 percent (52:12) tariff.That means the prices are going to go up by 10 percent. Here’s why I think it’s (52:17) different. Number one, we did not see inflation during Trump’s first term.We did not see any (52:23) when I say we did not see any high inflation. We did not see any inflation. That was something to (52:29) be worried about.And that’s because at that point, Trump did push back on China with that, (52:35) with those tariffs. So I want to be I want to be I want to clarify that those tariffs were in place (52:40) under that time. They were.So we can talk about this started immediately in 2017. So you would (52:46) have thought, OK, by 2019, we should see inflation and we did not see it. Twenty twenty, we saw (52:51) deflation.It was the opposite. I think tariffs are a small piece of this big pie. (52:58) You have the deficit.One hundred percent. You have you have the deficit. You have the national (53:03) debt.You have government spending. You have Federal Reserve interest rates. You have the (53:07) unemployment rate.You have jobs. You have illegal immigration undocumented because they create more (53:14) inflation and they create rent inflation. They create housing price inflation.So that is a (53:19) piece of the pie. Where I think it’s different is if Trump gets elected this time around, (53:25) he is going to come in to a situation where the unemployment rate people aren’t talking about (53:29) this enough. The unemployment rate is now four point one percent.It’s above four percent and (53:34) it hasn’t been this high since we were since the covid recovery. It hasn’t been this high. (53:41) If you were to take away covid, it hasn’t been this high since Obama’s first term.So above four (53:47) unemployment is actually bad. And that number is only going to continue to go up. And I know that (53:51) for a fact, because the interest rates have continued to stay high.I know my Federal (53:55) Reserve policy monetary policy really well. Hold on. Let’s let’s even take it further than that.(54:02) We’ve how many times adjusted what and how employment’s measured, unemployment’s measured. (54:06) If you even went to 1980 standards 40 years ago, we’re at twenty five plus percent employment. (54:12) Probably.But you know, just by those numbers, once again, you can we can judge any number to (54:18) fit any like I said, to that point, we can use those numbers and we’ve seen them adjust many (54:23) millions of jobs over the myriad over the many years of Biden’s administration where they had (54:28) to go back and readjust and readjust because they throw out a number. And how many of those (54:32) are government worthless jobs? I mean, we can go on and on about that, but please continue. (54:37) Well, look, we can get into an entire debate on on numbers.I don’t want to waste our time with (54:43) that. The bottom line is unemployment is going up and we’re not in a good situation because (54:47) interest rates are elevated. Companies are continuing to lay off.They’re on hiring (54:51) freezes. The tech industry is replacing people with artificial intelligence. So I think it’s (54:56) a little different because we’re about to enter a deflationary cycle.Peak inflation was two years (55:02) ago in twenty twenty two. And inflation has been cooling since then. And when Trump comes back in, (55:08) we’re going to see the price of oil go back down because one of the first things he’s going to do (55:11) is a Sarah Palin said, drill, baby, drill, frack, burn coal, maybe embrace nuclear energy.(55:18) That’s going to create a lot of jobs, but it’s also going to drive down the price of oil (55:21) because of the high interest rates. We’re already seeing a cooling in the housing market. (55:25) And then once people are being deported or once people are deported or that starts the (55:30) deportations of millions and millions of people every year can’t deport everyone.But that’s going (55:37) to create rent deflation. So you’re going to see rents not necessarily deflation, but you’re going (55:42) to see housing prices level off, which they already are. And then you’re going to see rents (55:46) leveling off, which they already are.So that’s why I say to create inflation, people have to (55:52) be spending. And if you’re entering an economy with rising unemployment, with high interest rates, (56:00) with a few lower population, less population, because you’re going to be deporting people out (56:06) of this country, then I’m not as concerned about tariffs causing inflation in this gap. I’m talking (56:14) about that whole pile.Yeah, from a whole perspective. That’s a very interesting point. (56:19) I really like that.Like I said, maybe we can have a deep dive on that. (56:22) So I know, well, one more thing I will say is the last thing, because I brought up the deficit (56:29) and the debt, and this is where I really hope, I don’t know if Trump is going to, I know that he’s (56:36) going to be able to raise revenue through the tariffs. I know he’s going to be able to raise (56:40) revenue through drilling, fracking, burning coal, but we still need to cut costs.And the only way (56:47) to, not the only way, but one of the only ways to reduce that debt and that deficit is by (56:53) shutting down agencies. He already said he’s going to shut down the Department of Education. (56:57) That’s not enough.That’s not anywhere close to being enough. You need to lay off mass layoffs, (57:03) shut down agencies, merge agencies, and do it in such a way- (57:07) What kind of ramifications is that going to do? You’re going to flood the market with even more (57:11) kind of under, I’m going to say it, I’m just going to say it, underachiever type government jobs, (57:17) you’re going to have what I call C-level, the A-level, B-level people are going to keep their (57:21) jobs, but the C-level, D-level people, and look, right now there’s an 8 million jobs short, 8 (57:27) million jobs are available. That’s how many, not a shortage, a surplus.There are 8 million jobs (57:34) that are unfilled in the private sector. So these people can go into the private sector, find honest (57:39) work, get paid probably more money than what they’re getting paid by the government, and (57:42) probably get a nice exit package from the government too. But this is super, super important.(57:48) There’s no reason for Dick Cheney to take a 10-person vice president department to 600 people. (57:54) There’s no reason for that. Absolutely no reason.It doesn’t matter if you’re responsible, calling (57:59) all the shots, you’re responsible for the Iraq war. 10 A-level people can get it done, and (58:05) technology and artificial intelligence can get a lot done too. These are all like foreign concepts (58:09) of the government, and this is why I’m excited about it.I’m more concerned about who’s going to (58:17) have the button on the AI. I’m not concerned about the AI itself. The AI itself is ridiculously (58:21) amazing.How we wield that sword is very important. That’s really what’s going to determine, and the (58:28) information, garbage in, garbage out kind of stuff, right? Yep, absolutely. And I know you’re about to (58:33) go.Could I ask you two questions real quick before we go? I’m going to put you on the spot on one, (58:38) because we talked about TikTok. What are your thoughts on the ban, yes or no? (58:44) No. Okay, thank you for sharing that, because I wasn’t sure where you were on that, and I’m glad (58:49) you said that, because I think we just need to create a better product, in my opinion, (58:53) and I think we can.I think we have enough people to do it. Well, people are going to know why I said (58:56) no, and the reason why I say no is because it is such an important platform. Yes, the Chinese (59:03) Communist Party owns it, but it is such an important platform.It’s the largest social (59:08) media platform in the world. It is. People my age may not understand that, but someone who’s 25 will.(59:14) It is the largest social media platform in the world, and to outright ban it, you’re going to (59:18) have a lot of unhappy people. You’re going to have people’s businesses destroyed, because they depend (59:23) on TikTok, and yes, they’re dependent. Advertising and everything from there.Okay, so it’s more of (59:27) an economic idea. I think a better solution would be a forced sale to a U.S. company, which they (59:34) tried doing already, and it didn’t work out, or, like you said, coming out with a competitor. Why (59:39) can’t Trump do it? He’s got Truth Social.The whole point of Trump Media was to come out with (59:44) another X, another TikTok, or merge, not merge, but partner with Rumble. So I don’t think banning (59:54) TikTok is the solution. I do think tariffs, essentially banning China from the United, (1:00:00) the Chinese Communist Party from the United States, not Chinese people, but the Chinese (1:00:05) Communist Party, I do think that’s important, because they are our enemy.They are our number (1:00:10) one enemy. They are destroying us. So generally, I’m for free markets and letting people doing (1:00:17) business with everybody, but they’ve got bad intentions.Well, before we go, thank you so (1:00:24) much for your time. I’m really gracious. It’s funny how you kind of hunted me down, like at Freedom (1:00:28) Fest, because I was, my head was spinning, man.I didn’t know what was going on. You tapped me on (1:00:32) the shoulder. We had this great conversation.I’m really grateful. The last question I have, (1:00:36) could you please share with me all of your information, because we dove right into it, (1:00:40) because we didn’t have much time. So please tell us how we can get hold of you.I understand you run (1:00:44) Krish Media, K-R-I-S-H. Is that correct? Krish Media Marketing. Check out the website, (1:00:50) krishmediamarketing.com. You can see all the, everything we do from design and development, (1:00:55) social media campaigns, SEO, et cetera.I’m also a real estate investor and a real estate (1:00:59) investment coach. So if you need help with your real estate investing, contact me. I can help you (1:01:04) out free of charge.There’s no charge. I’ll help you for free, help you get started with your (1:01:08) portfolio, buying properties, think of me as a super connector to get you in touch with all the (1:01:12) right people. I own eight properties myself.I’ve never visited them. They call me a laptop (1:01:18) landlord, run them all from my computer. So I can help you do the same.(1:01:24) That is amazing. I, and we don’t even have enough time to get into all your credentials, but (1:01:28) you are such an accomplished gentleman. So thank you for sharing your time with me and your ideas.(1:01:35) I think we have certainly have much more in common than we have different, but that’s where the (1:01:40) beauty is that we can talk about those slight differences and tweak, you know, tweak our own (1:01:43) ideas. You gave me actually a lot of different ideas to think about and from different angles. (1:01:47) So thank you for that.Thank you. It’s been a great conversation. (1:01:51) Cool.Thank you for joining. You are now officially a member of the Knocked Conscious (1:01:54) family, my friend. We have Naresh Vissa.Thank you so much, sir. I’m going to hit end here, (1:02:00) but stick around just for one second. Okay.