Consciously Unmasked #2 – New Year’s Resolutions, Impressions, Bird Flu, H1-B

Jason & Mark kick-off 2025 with a bang! New Year’s Resolutions, Impressions, Bird Flu, H1-B, all included in this jam-packed, fun-filled episode!

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(0:00) There we go. How’s the hair, man? You good? You ready? (0:05) Solid. (0:06) All right, man.(0:09) Chat’s open. (0:12) Me too. (0:36) Engage, listen.I don’t want to be delayed. (0:52) Move forward. (0:53) It’s time.It is time. (0:57) Welcome, everyone, to the first ever edition of Consciously Unmasked (1:07) with Jason and Mark. Welcome.(1:11) Hi, Jason. How you doing, man? (1:13) Hey, buddy. Good afternoon, evening, whatever it is right now.(1:17) Whatever it is. (1:19) It’s 2025. Happy New Year.(1:23) Happy New Year, friend. (1:27) I’m excited, man. Are you excited for today? (1:30) It’s going to be a great day.It’s going to be a great year. I’m stoked. (1:34) It’s only the second day.We’ve only got like 363 to go, and I’m very excited. (1:40) And we’ve already had a fiber truck explosion on day one. (1:44) What do you think? (1:45) That was crazy.Man, did you see the first one? So Amity, who’s one of our friends, (1:52) definitely friends, who’s been tuning in with us, she shared one of the videos. (1:55) That video looked fake. I swear, it just looked fake.(2:00) Because the weird thing was this thing exploded in this little chunk to the left, (2:03) and it looked like it just went thunk, and it looked like CGI. (2:07) It just looked so not right. (2:11) But something, it happened.(2:14) So what were your thoughts when you first saw that? (2:18) It’s freaking wild, dude. I don’t, I mean, I thought it was a cool explosion, to be honest. (2:23) But I was just reading right before we got on, (2:26) they found the guy had already been shot in the head before the fire went off.(2:31) And they did apparently find a passport and a license that were not burned, (2:36) although his body was too badly burned to be recognized. (2:39) So I don’t know what you think about that. (2:42) The passport, the passport, 9-11, the 9-11 passport.(2:44) Yeah, you know, passports. (2:46) Totally. (2:47) Jet fuel cannot melt passports.(2:48) It’s like the black box. I think the thing’s made with the black box material, (2:53) those passports and all the paperwork. (2:56) Yeah.(2:58) Yeah. So I don’t know how true that is, man, but that’s what I saw right before we came on. (3:03) And the other guy, they rented the truck, the two trucks were rented from through the same app, (3:08) apparently.(3:08) It’s like, oh, that’s a kind of a coincidence. (3:11) And then you take two steps back. (3:12) And I heard some very interesting things about the person in the in the cyber truck.(3:16) And I heard some interesting things about the person in the in the other truck. (3:19) And they were they both sergeants in the military, at least at some point. (3:24) One was a master.(3:25) One was a staff, if I’m not mistaken. (3:26) Are we kidding ourselves? (3:29) Currently, flags, rumors out there. (3:32) I also heard something about the guy that shot at Trump at his golf course.(3:36) Apparently, it went to the same military institution. (3:41) Oh, was he on the same BlackRock commercial as them in the middle? (3:44) And I see the teacher on the chalkboard for the kid who was shooting from Butler. (3:52) Is that what happened? (3:54) Everyone.(3:54) All you got to do is watch that commercial. (3:57) Every single one of those guys is going to be a terrorist at some point. (4:01) Yeah, yeah, there it is.(4:03) So Thane, welcome. (4:05) We’ve got Thane on. (4:06) So we’ve got a great show.(4:08) We’ve got we’ve got New Year’s resolution. (4:09) Tell us what we got, Jason. (4:10) You’ve got an outline for us because you are the prepared one.(4:13) And I’m the one who seems like a monkey’s effing a football over here. (4:17) So what do we got planned? (4:18) Well, before we really get going, I got to take a moment to recognize (4:23) two very important woodland creatures that we lost this year. (4:28) This last year, I should say.(4:30) Now we’re in 2025. (4:33) Everyone out for my Hermes. (4:37) Yes, pull it up here.(4:41) Can you see now? (4:42) You see my screen there? (4:43) I will add it. (4:45) Rest in peace, Peanut and Fred, taken from us too soon. (4:51) It only goes to show the state will take its time and resources to go get your harmless pets (4:58) while Jeffrey Epstein’s clients roam free and probably run the government.(5:05) Who are the real animals, ladies and gentlemen? (5:08) The real animals. (5:10) Are you and me? (5:12) No, I don’t know. (5:16) But anyways, thank you.(5:18) We had to take a moment of silence. (5:22) And Fred, I don’t know if I can continue, man. (5:26) That’s it.(5:27) We might have to shut the show down. (5:29) It’s hard to shut it down right now. (5:31) Honestly, all jokes aside, it’s really it still pisses me off.(5:35) It’s kind of it’s one of those things, dude, a squirrel. (5:40) Fucking some lady calls a fucking squirrel who has like a media presence. (5:44) If anything, the fucking thing promoted like safe pet caring and nurturing and whatever.(5:51) Like, what the fuck, man? (5:54) I’m sorry. (5:55) Was that out loud? (5:56) I use those usually voices usually are only inside my head. (5:59) They don’t come out like that.(6:00) So apologies. (6:03) I don’t know what else to say about it. (6:04) I just thought we should honor them.(6:06) I think we should. (6:07) I think we should get a placard together. (6:08) Maybe we’ll get a GoFundMe placard.(6:11) Maybe we’ll maybe we’ll add. (6:13) Can we add Fred and Peanut to our Conscious Consciously Unmasked logo, perhaps? (6:20) Yeah, as a special. (6:21) I mean, maybe maybe for the month.(6:23) Yeah, yeah, like monthly. (6:25) We’ll honor some, you know, if if if Trump doesn’t free Ross, we’ll put Ross up there next. (6:33) What do you think? (6:34) I like it.(6:34) Let’s do that. (6:35) Yes. (6:36) All right, man.(6:37) Well, hey, man, do you got any resolutions? (6:40) I do. (6:41) I will. (6:41) So I’ve got I got a I mean, a couple of serious ones, some funny ones, of course.(6:45) But I’m my serious one is to try to build what what you and I are trying to build this (6:52) message to grow it and whatever it whatever whoever profits from it doesn’t matter. (6:57) The message is really the what matters to me. (7:00) We got to get it spread for liberty and to get as independent as possible, to become (7:06) self-sufficient and become community, you know, become as much, you know, by with the (7:11) community.(7:12) So with that, my resolution, I had a loftier goal, but I’m going to tone it down a little (7:16) bit because Elon’s been bumping everybody off Twitter like crazy. (7:19) I mean, X like crazy. (7:21) So I it was 10,000 followers at the end of the year, but I’m going to cut it to five.(7:26) I have seventeen hundred and I only have three hundred ninety. (7:30) I would like to meet 2000 followed verified users. (7:34) I’d like to meet that metric and maybe just qualify for some kind of impression thing.(7:39) But that’s about my goal, because that’s about all I can do. (7:43) The second half. (7:44) I’m just going to have to wait on everybody who’s following me.(7:47) Go follow Mark. (7:49) Why aren’t you following him? (7:50) He’s better than me. (7:51) I think we are.(7:52) Go get it. (7:53) What? (7:53) Shut up, brother. (7:54) That’s silly.(7:56) I’m sorry, but I cut you off and anybody follow me. (7:59) Follow that guy. (8:00) Follow this guy here to that gentleman.(8:03) There he is. (8:05) OK, so I promise I won’t. (8:09) The fun thing, though, is like I want to do a lot more of this collaboration stuff because (8:13) this last couple of weeks have been a blast and we’ve got a lot more upcoming doing collaborations (8:18) with yourself, with Sean and Jacob for the provoke stuff, with Scott Horton doing the (8:24) other stuff with Zach that’s coming up.(8:25) I’m excited about all this, but I just want to let loose. (8:29) We’re going to let up some some impressions today that are not they’re kind of right on (8:34) the edge there that I have been holding off for a long time. (8:38) I have shared it with Jason.(8:40) He now has heard it. (8:41) I think it’s been Jason approved. (8:43) It’s not a nice one, but because we won because he won, I think we can make fun because he (8:48) won and Rob Schneider does a really poor version of it.(8:51) So I can do a better version of that. (8:52) So I’m calling out a couple of people, but I just want to have fun with this. (8:55) Like I, I want to be serious in the message, but I think I want to have a little more (8:59) fun with how we deliver it.(9:04) Yeah, I’m with you, dude. (9:05) I well, and not to brag, but I’ve already got over 2000 followers on X, but I like to (9:13) hit 3000. (9:14) Let’s get me there.(9:15) I want to keep this going because this is a lot of fun and it’s good for me because (9:19) I’m not used to talking so much. (9:20) I do the monologues, but I like, I pre-plan everything. (9:23) So just kind of getting more going with the flow, being able to keep things going naturally.(9:30) That’s what I want to do. (9:31) Get some good guests. (9:33) I’m aiming to at least ask one guest a week.(9:37) That’s my resolution really, because all I can do is ask. (9:41) They could say no, but yeah, I’m going for one a week. (9:46) I think that’s reasonable.(9:49) I like that, man. (9:50) So in that great light, I reached out to Perb Island. (9:54) We haven’t scheduled anything yet, but what a nice gentleman.(9:57) He wrote back and we might be scheduling something. (9:59) So we’re talking, that’s Austrian Economics 101 right there. (10:03) So I’m very excited for what we have, man.(10:06) So congratulations. (10:07) Yeah, and congratulations to you for doing so well because to your point, my weakness (10:11) is your strength, I think. (10:14) Monologues.(10:14) I’m the worst monologue person because you’ve heard me talk live. (10:19) I’ve got 42 voices. (10:21) Trying to sort one out.(10:22) It works great in this kind of setting. (10:24) It just works horribly in a high. (10:27) I have to talk about a single thing.(10:29) Squirrel, squirrel, squirrel. (10:31) I got Fred and I got peanut all over the place. (10:35) Oh, dude, my brain’s everywhere too.(10:38) I’m like, I’m trying to write something. (10:39) I’ll write like a sentence, if that, and then my brain is on to something else. (10:44) I’m looking at a video or I’m listening to a podcast.(10:46) I’m like, oh wait, I remember something from a book. (10:48) I got to look that up. (10:50) So it takes a long time.(10:51) It’s a lot of work. (10:53) I like it. (10:54) Thank you.(10:56) Hey, once again, we’ve got Thane. (10:57) We’ve got Justin on the chat. (10:59) I’m showing 34 people live.(11:02) That’s awesome. (11:03) Welcome. (11:03) We’re doing a New Year’s resolution.(11:05) We have impressions, guys. (11:07) These are impressions that I, some of these have not been released yet. (11:12) I just want to say.(11:14) So I did a Trump impression on one episode. (11:17) I think it was 24. (11:19) I’d have to go back and look.(11:21) I actually, well, I did look at it, but I don’t remember the number. (11:24) It wasn’t great. (11:25) It was really not good, but I’ve been practicing.(11:27) So I hope, I’m hoping this is going to be good. (11:30) There’s no hope. (11:31) We’re just going to do it, man.(11:32) We’re just going to have fun with it. (11:33) So I’m enjoying it. (11:34) I’m looking forward.(11:35) When are you busting that out? (11:36) At the end? (11:37) How are we doing this? (11:38) It may be horrible. (11:40) Since we’re on New Year’s resolutions, I actually have Donald Trump’s New Year’s resolution. (11:46) If you want to go into it.(11:48) I am. (11:49) I’m all ears. (11:50) Hold on.(11:50) I’m listening. (11:52) This is an exclusive to the Consciously Unmasked podcast. (11:56) Are you ready? (11:58) Breaking news.(12:00) Okay. (12:02) Listen up, folks. (12:03) I’ve got the best New Year’s resolution you’ve ever heard.(12:08) Everybody’s saying they’ve never heard such a great resolution. (12:11) It might be the best resolution that anyone has made in the history of New Year’s (12:17) ever since America started the tradition of New Year’s 2025 years ago. (12:24) And this resolution, it’s tremendous.(12:27) Tremendous. (12:28) Believe me, nobody does it better. (12:30) I didn’t need anyone to help me with it.(12:31) It was all the idea of your favorite president. (12:35) The United States is going to expand our borders to include Canada. (12:42) It’s true.(12:43) Justin Trudeau has led the Canadians to the worst economy the world has ever seen. (12:49) People are fleeing his communist regime. (12:52) It’s terrible.(12:53) It’s terrible. (12:54) So bad. (12:56) They’re being forced vaccinated by the millions.(12:59) Where those vaccines came from isn’t important. (13:02) But the best part of taking Canada is I hear that they have the best cans. (13:07) Cans like you’ve never seen.(13:09) That’s what they say. (13:09) And those cans should be American cans. (13:13) And I’ll personally sign each and every one of them bigly.(13:18) And perhaps even more important, the United States will be buying Greenland. (13:24) They say it’s so green. (13:25) Look how big it is on the map.(13:27) It’s even bigger than Arnold Palmer’s penis, let me tell you. (13:31) Look, we’ll be adding so much land to the great U.S. of A. (13:35) No one will be able to compete with our land. (13:37) We have the best land.(13:38) Russia won’t know what to do. (13:40) They’ll probably be so intimidated. (13:42) They just hand over their land too.(13:45) But we’re not going to pay. (13:46) This is the best part. (13:47) Are you ready for it? (13:48) You want to hear it, don’t you? (13:50) The best part is we’re going to make China pay for it.(13:54) They’ll never know how it happened. (13:56) But China will pay for it, believe me. (13:59) We’re going to do it with the tariffs.(14:01) We’re going to have 2,000% tariffs. (14:04) And China will pay for me to buy Greenland. (14:06) And if they don’t like it, guess what? (14:09) We’ll make it 3,000%.(14:11) How do you like that? (14:13) We’re getting this all done in 2025, folks. (14:16) The best resolution, didn’t I tell you? (14:18) It’s great, so great. (14:21) Everybody’s talking about it, even CNN.(14:24) The fake news will tell you it can’t be done. (14:26) But just watch. (14:28) In 2026, they’ll all be saying, Trump did it.(14:31) He’s so great. (14:32) And I do it all for you, believe me. (14:37) The end.(14:39) Oh, man, that was awesome. (14:43) Well, that was fun. (14:44) I’m watching.(14:45) I like that. (14:45) OK, that was amazing. (14:49) And I did not expect that type of just dedication from you, sir.(14:56) Not only did we not go down in numbers, we went up in numbers. (15:01) So we did not lose a single person, sir. (15:03) Oh, good.(15:04) Kudos. (15:05) Well done. (15:06) Thanks for sticking with me, guys.(15:07) That was my first real attempt at a solid impression. (15:12) So I don’t know, man. (15:14) Zeal giving us three fireballs, my friend, in the chat.(15:17) There it is. (15:19) Nice, nice. (15:20) Thank you, buddy.(15:23) That was amazing. (15:24) I’d just like to say that that was a great impression by you, sir. (15:30) That was one of the greatest impressions I’ve ever heard (15:34) since getting vaccinated myself in the neck and having to have a whale carcass (15:39) in the back of my SUV with a bicycle as I threw it on top of a grizzly bear.(15:45) It was one of the greatest things ever in the history of impressions. (15:52) Oh, my God. (15:54) I want to try that, but I don’t want to step on your toes.(15:57) And I’ve never done it before, so I’m not going to do it now. (16:00) You can do better than that, sir. (16:02) It hurts.(16:04) It hurts. (16:04) Look, I’ve got all these lozenges that I’m taking just to get through this podcast today. (16:10) I’m not telling you that all vaccines are bad.(16:13) Just they do cause autism. (16:15) That’s all we know. (16:18) That was my first attempt.(16:19) I’ve never tried that. (16:20) That’s a pretty good. (16:21) That’s for a first shot at it.(16:23) That’s really good. (16:24) Very well done. (16:25) But you got to get it a little bit further back in the throat.(16:30) Really cheating on your girl or your wife that she really knows it. (16:35) What I want to know is we can do these voices, right? (16:39) But why can’t they just do their voice normal? (16:43) Why can’t they just do their normal voice? (16:46) What’s wrong with you? (16:48) I got to be honest. (16:49) So the one I’m going to bust out later, it’s a little bit of a tease because we’re going (16:53) to get to this person.(16:55) But the first video that I saw of this person, because I was doing some practicing, (17:00) is a TED Talk by this person. (17:02) And it’s about overcoming a fear of stuttering. (17:06) And it turns out this person had a stuttering problem, a stuttering issue as a child.(17:11) So not only am I going to crap on her current speaking. (17:16) It may revert her back to her previous speaking. (17:21) Just so you know.(17:23) Well, stay tuned. (17:24) Buckle up. (17:24) She deserves it.(17:25) Thank you, Justin. (17:26) Well done. (17:27) Well done.(17:27) It was funny. (17:28) Well done, Justin and Justin. (17:30) Look at that.(17:30) Holmes. (17:31) Oh, we’re going to have that. (17:32) The Holmes did not last name connection.(17:35) Justin to Justin. (17:37) Justin. (17:38) All right.(17:38) We’re up to 48 people, man. (17:40) Since we’re talking about that lady, maybe we should get into it. (17:45) Start running some clips.(17:46) If you guys were here from the beginning, you saw that the White House put out this (17:50) ad, I believe today, that says, it’s time to move forward and blah, blah, blah. (17:56) It’s like just a feel good message. (17:57) But about 10 seconds into the clip, you see everybody, every single person in the video (18:02) starts masking up.(18:04) They’re putting masks on. (18:06) And this is 2025, people. (18:08) So this is really, really getting to me.(18:11) Why the fuck are we doing this in 2025? (18:16) We know the masks don’t work. (18:20) Mark, any thoughts before we get into the clip? (18:23) I do, because I actually do have a clip from Thomas Woods himself at Freedom Fest. (18:29) This is me videotaping it live at Freedom Fest.(18:32) We were talking about this thing. (18:35) And it’s funny that you said move on, because look what I just happened to clip. (18:39) Remember I told you about my little psychic stuff here? (18:41) Check this out.(18:42) Are you ready? (18:43) Here we go. (18:51) They’re telling us that it’s time to move on. (18:54) When you’re a guy who writes a book on the COVID response, you get this a lot.(18:58) Time to move on. (18:59) You know, we can’t dwell on this forever. (19:01) Time to talk about other things.(19:03) Forget about it. (19:03) Move on. (19:04) And the thing is, I just can’t do that.(19:06) I cannot bring myself to do that. (19:08) And can you imagine Thomas Jefferson saying, if the government carries out an unspeakable (19:15) atrocity, probably the best thing to do is just move on. (19:18) That ain’t the American spirit.(19:20) You know, and we’ve done it too many times. (19:22) But we move on after every crisis. (19:25) And what happens when we move on is that they define the narrative about that crisis.(19:36) Absolutely, man. (19:37) I didn’t even put that together. (19:39) The move on.(19:40) But then they’re talking about going back to 2020, man. (19:43) Putting the masks on. (19:44) So what’s going on here? (19:46) They’re telling us to move on in our mind.(19:49) They’re telling us to let it go, really. (19:51) Move on is like, let it go. (19:53) Why can’t you move on? (19:56) Some things need to be held accountable.(19:58) I mean, when you see that from Tom Woods, man, what do you think? (20:00) I mean, it reminds me of that headline I saw, I think it was in the Atlantic. (20:05) We need a COVID amnesty for things that we said when we didn’t know what was going on. (20:11) When we decided that we were going to lock you in your houses, (20:14) and you have to wear a mask everywhere.(20:16) And your kids aren’t going to school. (20:18) And you must take this vaccine or else you can’t have a job. (20:24) No, we’re not declaring amnesty on shit.(20:27) I’m not. (20:28) Amen. (20:28) I’m not letting that go.(20:30) I’ll be honest. (20:31) I have a little contention in the home. (20:34) And it’s not crazy contention, but I’m not letting it go either.(20:38) And it does affect some of myself. (20:39) I’m like, why would I let it go? (20:41) Every day I burden myself. (20:44) Should I do it? (20:45) Am I hurting someone? (20:47) Am I being a good citizen? (20:51) The propaganda, the mind fuck that they did to us for all that time.(20:55) And I’m not kidding. (20:57) I’m a compassionate, caring person. (20:59) But I do have this liberty in me.(21:01) I just have an individual streak in me. (21:02) So I was torn between do I do it and not and back and forth. (21:08) And when I heard people were letting their children get it, I’m like, (21:11) I know I’ve heard some things, but I’m not your parent.(21:14) And I don’t know where the line was to step. (21:17) And I knew it was wrong, but I couldn’t. (21:19) There were times where I put a lot of handcuffs and shackles on my own speech.(21:26) Because we don’t want to offend. (21:27) We don’t want to hurt. (21:28) And maybe I wasn’t strong enough.(21:31) You know what I mean? (21:32) Maybe I wasn’t. (21:32) But it’s such a shame that we were so easily swayed into that. (21:37) And I think we could be again.(21:39) So should we start? (21:41) I mean, I had the similar thing. (21:43) I was back and forth. (21:45) Like, sometimes I just did it because I didn’t want to deal with (21:47) having a fight with people all the time.(21:49) It gets really old. (21:52) Yeah, after it started to come back, that’s kind of why I started the show. (21:56) It started coming back around 2023.(22:00) Some colleges started doing it. (22:01) Oh, cases are on the rise. (22:02) Everybody get your masks.(22:04) And some colleges, places in California, I think, were trying to do it. (22:08) Saying, yeah, you got to wear a mask all the time or else you’re not welcome here. (22:13) And it’s just like, hell no, we’re not doing this again.(22:16) So yeah, guilty too. (22:18) I went along a little bit. (22:19) But I didn’t know what was going on either.(22:21) But now we know. (22:22) And they’re still trying to do this shit. (22:25) Yeah.(22:25) So that’s what gets me. (22:26) Well, that’s it is what it is. (22:29) And that is really the problem is we are on to them.(22:32) But man, there’s a lot of people. (22:35) You should watch. (22:35) You should see me on my Facebook feed.(22:37) I don’t do it much. (22:38) But when you see me on there, it’s like watching just net. (22:43) I can tell you the next three narratives I’m going to hear from the post I made.(22:47) And I can tell you either people who agree with it or disagree. (22:50) But it’s so funny because you and I, like we kind of call balls and (22:53) strikes as much as we can. (22:54) So who do we piss off? (22:55) Everybody.(22:56) We don’t piss off a side. (22:58) We literally like I was thinking like I when I started this and this is why kind of part (23:03) of starting was just to talk to people, engage and get ideas. (23:06) It’s like I’m a pretty moderate person.(23:08) I think that these all my idea, a lot of my ideas come out of logic instead of I hope (23:13) feeling or something. (23:14) And I’m like, I’m going to get along with everybody. (23:17) And it turns out we get along with nobody.(23:20) It’s like, yeah, we literally call out everybody, you know. (23:23) So I was that guy that I was to get along with everybody guy. (23:27) And now I fucking hate everybody.(23:30) So yeah, big, extreme. (23:31) So I like I said, I wore a mask out of courtesy. (23:36) I wore I had a Chappelle mask.(23:37) So I work because I got at one of his shows. (23:39) Yeah, I got the Dave Chappelle mask. (23:41) I wore that.(23:41) But like that was the best I could do to be like somewhat compliant and somewhat defiant (23:45) because like at least I was like, well, Chappelle, you know, so I didn’t do it much except when (23:51) I had to get on a plane that sucked. (23:53) And for that, I got one of those like basically see through ones that, you know, it’s almost (23:59) nothing. (24:00) So I can’t breathe because I can’t stand it here.(24:03) I can’t stand it. (24:05) Drop the mask. (24:07) Well, birds, birds coming.(24:09) Yeah, we got we got look, we’re consciously unmasked here. (24:12) Yeah, we consciously unmasked for this show. (24:16) So I’m ready.(24:17) We’re going to start with the first clip here and then we’ll talk about it as we go through, (24:22) right? (24:23) Yes. (24:24) So Liana, when Lena, when she’s back, Lena, Dr. (24:27) Lena, when she’s back, she’s a disaster. (24:31) She’s a silly, silly woman talking about you leave alone.(24:36) Lena, when is a great person. (24:38) She talks about the COVID vaccine like it’s the greatest thing in the world ever until (24:43) the mask affected her children. (24:44) And then she turned and then she flip flopped.(24:47) She says, like the summer in the footwear that you’d wear on the beach. (24:51) All right, here we go, my beautiful. (24:53) Let’s run it so people know what we’re talking about doing in the days that they have left.(24:56) The first is to get testing out there. (24:59) I feel like we should have learned our lesson from COVID that just because we aren’t testing, (25:03) it doesn’t mean that the virus isn’t there. (25:05) It just means that we aren’t looking for it.(25:07) We should be having rapid tests, home tests available to all farmworkers, to their families, (25:12) for the clinicians taking care of them so that we aren’t waiting. (25:18) I guess that’s it. (25:19) Yeah, testing is the first part of this.(25:22) There’s three clips from this little episode. (25:24) You may have seen this going around on X Twitter. (25:28) But testing, she wants to get everybody tested.(25:32) Why? (25:34) I mean, can you think of a good reason? (25:36) Because I’ve been thinking about this, reading about it, reading Tom Woods’s diary of a psychosis. (25:42) And I cannot find any good reason to test unless you’re going to do it on everyone (25:49) and quarantine sick people. (25:51) But they’re not doing that.(25:56) So, yes. (25:59) So when we talk about government’s role, they solve the problems that they initially create (26:04) from the thing that they initially want to solve or something, and it just becomes a (26:07) perpetual cycle, right? (26:09) How does homelessness go up? (26:11) Because they focus on it. (26:12) If they test for it, they are looking for it.(26:16) The reason they have to test for it is because most people are asymptomatic or barely get (26:23) sick, so they got to find it so they can get injected with the thing that it’s against. (26:27) They have to find it. (26:29) They can’t find it if they don’t fucking test it.(26:32) And they ain’t going to fucking find it just from the .0001 guide. (26:36) It’s so severe. (26:37) I mean, I’m sure the clips are coming up.(26:39) We’re going to talk about that. (26:40) But it’s like, that’s why they’re testing. (26:42) They’re looking for it.(26:43) They are actively looking so they can, what’s that called? (26:47) So they can justify the vaccine that they bought. (26:50) You know, we’ll get into the clips, right? (26:51) But they’re justifying something, in my opinion. (26:54) We need Joe Biden to do this in his last days alive.(27:00) Go put all the tests and get everyone tested. (27:04) That’s what we need. (27:06) Okay, so you’re right.(27:07) We need to test if Joe Biden’s alive, to test if he can even be tested. (27:12) Because if his blood’s not pumping, if it’s just a vampire, then we have to know that (27:16) he might be immune to the H2N25V4G563B4 variant. (27:24) Yeah, so yes, you’re right about the reason, the actual reason why they’re testing.(27:28) Because they’re looking for a problem to get you scared. (27:31) And I’m sure it’s no coincidence that this is happening now, (27:34) while Donald Trump is right about to take over. (27:39) But not, yeah.(27:40) And once again, I think she mentions that, right? (27:42) Let’s, shall I go to the next clip? (27:44) Well, one more thing on the test. (27:46) Is there any? (27:46) Oh yeah, absolutely. (27:47) What’s that? (27:48) The scientific, I mean, the fake reason, you know? (27:51) The fake science that they’ll back it up with.(27:53) Because if you test somebody, they’re positive. (27:56) They don’t have a treatment for it, right? (27:58) So you can’t do anything anyway. (28:02) Or do they? (28:04) Yeah, because they don’t have a treatment for it.(28:07) Because what they did with COVID is like, okay, you have COVID, go home. (28:12) And if the symptoms get really bad, then come into the hospital. (28:15) And we’ll put you on a ventilator, which is probably going to kill you.(28:19) But as soon as they became immune naturally, (28:23) they were told to get the second shot, right? (28:26) No, no, natural immunity doesn’t exist. (28:28) But I don’t know what kind of Joe Rogan science you’re listening to. (28:33) I know, natural immunity.(28:35) Who to thunk? (28:36) Who to thunk it? (28:38) All right, let’s, yeah, let’s go to the next one. (28:41) All right, sir. (28:44) Very important thing is this is not like the beginning of COVID, (28:47) where we were dealing with a new virus.(28:49) We didn’t have a vaccine. (28:51) There actually is a vaccine developed already against H5N1. (28:54) The Biden administration has contracted with manufacturers (28:57) to make almost 5 million doses of the vaccine.(29:01) However, they have not asked the FDA to authorize the vaccine. (29:04) There’s research done on it. (29:06) They could get this authorized now and also get the vaccine out.(29:09) So and to farm workers and to vulnerable people. (29:12) I think that’s the right approach, (29:14) because we don’t know what the Trump administration (29:15) is going to be doing around bird flu. (29:17) If they have people coming in with anti-vaccine stances, (29:20) could they hold up vaccine authorization if they don’t want it? (29:27) Yeah, so the Trump admin is going to hold up vaccine authorization (29:31) because that’s what they did during COVID, right? (29:35) Yeah, warp speed wasn’t under Trump at all.(29:39) No, that wasn’t under Trump at all. (29:42) The $1,200 to each person, that wasn’t. (29:45) As long as his name was on the check.(29:48) What’s funny about that, because like going through the, (29:51) I was going through the Thomas Woods lecture (29:54) that he did at Freedom Fest, obviously, (29:55) because of this was coming up, right? (29:58) And Massey came up too. (30:00) Massey talked about it. (30:01) That $1,200 to every person, all the people who got it, (30:05) that number that got us into that bill, (30:08) take a guess the percentage of that amount (30:10) of all that total dollars was to the total bill.(30:13) How much a percentage of that money was for the entire bill? (30:18) Oh, I remember seeing that at one point, (30:20) but I don’t know, like 3%. (30:22) Five, 5%. (30:25) All the money.(30:26) So all it took to get 95% or what? (30:32) 95 times whatever the money we got, right? (30:39) Or what, not 95. (30:41) It’s like 18 times, 19 times the money we got. (30:44) 19 times the money we got.(30:46) 1 to 19. (30:47) Does that sound normal? (30:48) Does that sound like a ratio we’re supposed to get? (30:50) Oh, we got 1,200 bucks. (30:51) Oh, where’s the 22,800 that I gave into that program (30:55) to get my 1,200 back? (30:58) Thank you.(30:58) I think I did the math. (30:59) I think that’s what it came out to. (31:03) Yep.(31:03) And that all added up at the end to about $4 trillion (31:08) transferred from poor people to the wealthy. (31:12) Okay. (31:13) On top of that.(31:13) Now, you listen to Lena Nguyen speak in this clip. (31:17) She said vulnerable and farm workers. (31:21) She wants to get the vaccine to the farm workers.(31:23) But you’ll realize, I think if you have this other clip, (31:26) you’ll realize she talks about the farm workers (31:28) in a different way than she talks about the vulnerable, (31:30) doesn’t she? (31:31) So why is she pushing so hard for the farm workers? (31:34) You’ll hear what I’m saying when she talks about that. (31:36) I guess because they’re exposed to it, right? (31:38) It kind of makes sense. (31:39) They’re exposed to it.(31:40) Yeah, but yeah, we’ll play that clip though (31:45) about the vulnerability, right? (31:46) Because we have to see, (31:48) did you get the part where it’s super serious, right? (31:50) One more thing on the vaccines before we hit it. (31:54) Yeah. (31:54) I looked, there was an article I saw today.(31:58) They’d been doing some trials on this vaccine. (32:01) 11 people in the vaccine group died from it. (32:05) 11.(32:07) What? (32:07) And there was one in the control group that died. (32:12) Oh, so the control group- (32:14) I don’t even know if they got infected with the bird flu. (32:17) I don’t think they got infected.(32:18) They just actually just died from the shot. (32:21) So they won’t actually say that (32:23) because it’s really hard to make that connection. (32:27) So it’s a thousand times less effective (32:29) because the COVID was a hundred times more effective.(32:32) Yes, exactly. (32:33) Is that what you’re trying to tell me? (32:34) It’s a thousand percent ineffective. (32:38) That is like not cool.(32:42) Yeah. (32:42) Do you have a post-test study? (32:44) Hopefully I can put that up if you do have that. (32:45) Like no, later we’ll link it.(32:47) We’ll not have to find it. (32:48) Yeah, but I saved a screenshot of it somewhere. (32:50) And everybody out there, please feel free to share stuff.(32:53) Come on the chat and everything too. (32:54) So yeah. (32:57) So Justin mentions their treatment for it is tyranny.(33:00) So I’m not sure what he means specifically if it’s- (33:03) Treatment for bird flu is tyranny. (33:05) That’s correct. (33:06) He is correct.(33:07) There you go. (33:07) Yes. (33:08) That’ll do it.(33:09) All right. (33:10) Well, it’s like, it’s not the COVID that was the problem. (33:12) It was the COVID response, right? (33:14) The COVID, the actions we did to shut down what? (33:18) 41% of black owned businesses.(33:21) Hey, that sounds like they’re looking out for you. (33:23) You know, it’s one of the biggest statistics that comes, (33:26) that sticks out to my head when we talk about looking out (33:28) for people who are, you know, marginalized, disenfranchised (33:31) and everything. (33:33) 41% shuttered during COVID.(33:35) That’s a crazy number. (33:38) And when it doesn’t work, it’s just because you MAGA people (33:42) out there, you didn’t listen to the science, (33:45) your right wing conspiracy nuts. (33:47) You just didn’t do it hard enough.(33:49) You should have been wearing eight masks. (33:51) You should have taken 22 boosters. (33:55) You should have stayed in your house.(33:56) Propaganda just is not well. (33:58) Yeah. (33:58) You should have listened better, man.(34:00) Be better. (34:00) Be better trained. (34:01) Can you, you monkeys? (34:02) Come on, be better.(34:04) All right, my friend. (34:05) Any, any final word before we hit this third clip? (34:08) Now hit it. (34:10) All right, brother.(34:11) And is bird flu in humans, super dangerous? (34:15) Well, the World Health Organization estimates that (34:17) in prior outbreaks of the bird flu, (34:19) that the mortality rate is 52%, 52%. (34:24) However, in the, in this most recent outbreak, (34:27) it seems that most cases have been wild. (34:30) And maybe some people even have asymptomatic infection.(34:32) But the question is, we don’t know what happens (34:34) when bird flu affects more vulnerable individuals. (34:37) People infected so far in the U.S. (34:39) have been mainly farm workers who are working, (34:42) presumably generally healthy, (34:44) as opposed to what happens when you get to children, (34:46) to pregnant women, (34:48) to older individuals with chronic illnesses. (34:50) We don’t know how deadly, (34:52) how dangerous bird flu is going to be for them.(34:56) Won’t somebody think of the children? (35:00) It’s 50. (35:01) It has a mortality rate of 52%, (35:04) except for the fact that it’s a hundred percent (35:06) effectively ineffective at all, (35:09) and even being symptomatic in any way. (35:12) I mean, 52% mortality.(35:14) Can you believe 52%? (35:16) That’s one in every two. (35:18) So did it really kill anybody? (35:19) Well, no, not even in the least, (35:22) but 52% mortality. (35:25) Are you fucking kidding me with this shit? (35:27) Can we please, (35:28) like, listen to them manufacturing your consent.(35:31) They put out one in two, (35:33) over one in two die. (35:35) Every one, every half of us die. (35:38) Then they sandwich in, (35:39) well, actually no one even got, (35:42) is barely showing any symptoms, (35:43) if any at all, (35:45) and then sandwich with, (35:46) but look who it’s going to hurt.(35:48) The children, the old people, (35:49) the infected, (35:50) and then she throws in the farm workers (35:51) who are healthy or whatever, (35:53) but those have to be injected. (35:54) Why are they, (35:54) okay, if they’re healthy, (35:56) why are they, (35:57) why do they need to be injected, right? (35:59) Once again, wasn’t that the whole point? (36:01) Why did you abuse children during COVID? (36:07) Why did you abuse your children during COVID? (36:09) And I’m not talking about the people who didn’t know. (36:11) You were not given your informed consent, (36:14) ladies and gentlemen.(36:15) You were not told the truth about it. (36:18) And I’m so sorry for you. (36:19) I’m so sorry.(36:21) And I don’t blame, (36:22) but I am hurt, (36:23) and someone must pay for this. (36:26) Children are suffering. (36:27) I mean, the excess deaths (36:29) are up in upwards of up to 20% (36:31) in highly vaccinated countries.(36:33) I think there’s a correlation. (36:35) I really do. (36:36) It’s an opinion.(36:37) Sorry, I’m allowed to have it. (36:39) Share your thoughts, sir. (36:41) You’re actually not allowed.(36:44) Maybe here on X you can. (36:46) That’s the only place you’re allowed to have an opinion, (36:48) but outside of that, (36:49) the real world, (36:50) don’t even, (36:51) don’t even try it. (36:53) But I like how she’s just like, (36:55) well, by our worst possible estimates, (36:57) 52% could be dead from this, (37:00) but actually no one’s died.(37:02) And we actually don’t have any science to back that up. (37:04) Everybody. (37:05) But just imagine.(37:06) It’s like the Sam Harris thing. (37:08) It’s like, imagine. (37:10) Oh yeah, go ahead.(37:10) Yeah, give it up. (37:12) If COVID was actually deadly, (37:15) then you guys would all look like complete fools. (37:21) Yeah, that’s all I got.(37:22) If, yeah, imagine, imagine the COVID vaccine (37:26) having say a 52% mortality rate versus the, (37:32) I don’t know, (37:33) less than half a percent that it actually had. (37:35) Imagine if it was a million times stronger (37:39) than it actually was. (37:41) Imagine that.(37:42) Then you wouldn’t be so smug (37:44) sitting in your little logo backed backdrop (37:48) talking about how bad the vaccine was. (37:51) Now, would you? (37:53) Yes, that’s correct. (37:55) In an alternate reality (37:56) where everything was completely different than it was, (38:00) I would be wrong.(38:01) I’d be looking like a fool, (38:02) but that’s not the reality we’re in. (38:04) So I feel pretty good right now. (38:06) I’m feeling pretty good too.(38:08) And Justin does mention, (38:09) they are going to target the children this time. (38:11) It’s funny that it’s not another COVID type one (38:14) because like age was an issue with that one, right? (38:17) Oh, let’s use a bird one. (38:18) That one might’ve hit (38:19) different demographic differently, right? (38:22) Maybe it’s a systematic target.(38:23) Maybe, I don’t know. (38:24) I’m stupid. (38:25) I don’t know anything.(38:27) So anyway. (38:29) Lena Nguyen is so smart. (38:31) The way she makes us think (38:33) that it could be so deadly, (38:35) but that didn’t hurt anyone.(38:39) Yes. (38:39) Thoughts before I hit the next one. (38:40) Background on when she was saying, (38:43) I have this headline from 2021.(38:46) Unvaccinated should not be allowed to leave their homes. (38:49) She says, you have the option (38:50) not to get vaccinated if you want, (38:53) but then you can’t go out in public. (38:56) So you know what that means, right? (38:57) If you’re locked in your house, (38:59) you can’t leave.(38:59) You can’t go to work. (39:00) Not everybody can work remotely. (39:03) Like we have the luxury of doing, (39:04) but if you can’t leave, (39:07) you’re not supporting your family.(39:09) What do you do? (39:09) You become more dependent on government or you starve. (39:12) So I think really that’s what they’re trying to get to. (39:15) And whoever said, (39:17) tyranny is the measure that they take for this.(39:19) Yeah, you’re absolutely right. (39:20) That’s what they want. (39:21) And when you don’t comply, (39:23) when you go against their wishes, (39:25) that really pisses them off.(39:26) And that makes it worse. (39:28) But that doesn’t mean you should comply. (39:31) On compliance, let’s do it, my friend.(39:33) I pulled him out last time. (39:35) We’ll bring him up again. (39:36) When Jordan Peterson said, (39:38) oh, guy, by golly, (39:39) if I just take the shot, (39:41) will you leave me alone? (39:42) By God.(39:43) And they didn’t do it. (39:44) I said, I comply with you. (39:47) Man, they don’t take an inch, man.(39:49) They take a mile. (39:50) Do not comply. (39:51) Do not comply.(39:54) It’s gonna make you push back harder. (39:56) But eventually, if enough people are not complying, (39:59) practicing peaceful resistance, (40:02) they’ll break. (40:03) It has to break.(40:06) I agree 100%, my friend. (40:09) All right. (40:09) So that’s big.(40:12) I mean, I don’t know, man. (40:15) So many things. (40:16) I don’t want to be angry, (40:19) but I’m angry.(40:20) And it’s not like an I told you so angry. (40:23) It’s a why did they do this to all of us angry? (40:27) Because I was a grade A neocon, man. (40:30) So I was all into Iraq and WMDs and all that.(40:33) So I was on the wrong side of that. (40:36) Thank goodness people like Ron Paul, Dave Smith, (40:39) they didn’t I told you so. (40:41) They go, yeah, they tricked all of us at one point.(40:45) Right? (40:46) Let’s have a little grace here. (40:48) And I have grace for my fellow person, (40:51) but they got to let it go too. (40:53) They can’t be defending this shit.(40:56) Like, I love like you put something about (40:58) income taxes theft and then someone goes, (41:00) well, the rich should pay their fair share. (41:03) And you’re like, are you defending (41:05) the fucking income tax right now? (41:07) What are you doing? (41:09) Like, you’re literally defending income tax. (41:12) Did I say anything about who should pay what? (41:14) No, I said income tax is theft.(41:16) And these people come across and go, (41:18) well, rich people aren’t paying enough. (41:23) Everyone’s paying too much. (41:25) What’s that? (41:26) Yes.(41:27) You’re missing the point. (41:28) There should be no tax. (41:30) Yeah.(41:31) So they like it when it’s convenient for them. (41:32) And I think, right. (41:34) I really think a lot of people did like the compliance (41:37) because that’s the only thing they’re good at.(41:39) I stole this from Michael Malice, (41:40) but I’m going to say it anyway. (41:42) People can’t compete on any other scale, (41:44) but they can compete on following the rules. (41:46) Oh, I’m the best at following the rules.(41:48) I’m just going to do it because (41:50) that makes me a good person. (41:52) So they love mandates. (41:54) They love taxes.(41:55) They love all this because they can get a sense (41:58) of a high status without actually doing anything. (42:03) That’s a great point. (42:04) And you know what? (42:04) That actually does play into another point, (42:06) like of ego, because when you talk about ego, (42:09) right, you can talk about the guy (42:11) who drives around in a Ferrari.(42:12) He’s got his big, you know, (42:13) his nice suit and everything. (42:14) He’s rich, right? (42:15) Showing off. (42:16) You got the guy who did that.(42:18) He becomes a Buddhist. (42:19) He lets go of everything. (42:21) He’s just as egotistical about having nothing (42:25) as the rich guy is flaunting everything (42:28) because he’s like, look at me.(42:30) I gave up everything. (42:32) Look at me. (42:33) That’s a virtue signaling, right? (42:34) Like, look at me.(42:35) I can be better at this. (42:38) And it’s always an ego thing with us. (42:40) And we got we I know it’s hard to let go, (42:42) but we do need to let (42:43) let those types of things go inside ourselves.(42:47) Yeah, I mean, I can let it go for regular people, (42:50) for the people that pushed it, (42:51) for the people that enforced it. (42:53) The politicians, the quote, unquote, (42:56) do not know what you are talking about. (42:58) How dare you talk about? (43:00) I am science.(43:01) How dare you talk about me like this? (43:05) I thought you were doing Schwarzenegger. (43:06) I will not have it. (43:07) How dare you? (43:09) Fuck your freedoms.(43:11) Fuck your freedoms. (43:12) My Bernie, my Bernie Sanders, (43:15) I’ll defend the man. (43:16) The man did a good job.(43:17) He was a really good man. (43:18) And he really, really works for the American people. (43:21) And we got to have more socialism.(43:23) Yeah, yeah. (43:25) But if there’s any silver lining here, (43:26) I learned a lot about people from this experience. (43:31) And about ourselves.(43:33) How much people are willing to just follow the herd. (43:36) I mean, I knew it was somewhere. (43:38) I thought it was somewhere like five to 10% of people (43:41) just were happy to go along, (43:43) not really think about anything critically.(43:46) But I think I had it backwards. (43:47) I think it’s five to 10, maybe, (43:50) that do think critically, (43:51) that are actually willing to go against (43:54) whatever the thing of the day is, you know? (43:58) Yeah. (43:58) And that’s what’s really interesting, too, (44:00) is our podcast, (44:02) we have some really long format conversations (44:04) with a lot of people.(44:05) A lot of people we might not agree with. (44:08) But what we try to do is we try to understand (44:10) how they got to their thought process. (44:14) Like, show me how you got, show your work.(44:17) How did you get there? (44:18) Because that at least, (44:19) if you can get past two or three questions (44:22) and your argument still holds up to some extent, (44:25) it might actually make it, you know what I mean? (44:27) It might actually make it up the hill. (44:28) Many things get unraveled right away. (44:30) But if you can show me where we parted our thought, (44:33) that’s where we go back to and go, (44:35) okay, well, why did you think this? (44:36) And why did I think that? (44:38) And if we can, you know, wind it back, (44:40) we do have the option of this beautiful hindsight (44:43) because we have a track record (44:44) of what we’ve said before and what we’ve done.(44:46) And if we’re honest with ourselves, (44:47) I’ve been wrong a lot, plenty. (44:50) And I just had to be honest with myself about that too. (44:54) It hurts because I don’t ever think I am.(45:00) I’m not familiar with that feeling. (45:03) No, but it’s a final thought. (45:07) The point is, I think we’re just here to say, (45:10) we’re not doing this again, right? (45:12) Do we need it? (45:13) I don’t think we need the last wind clip.(45:14) It’s an older one. (45:15) All right. (45:16) All right.(45:17) Let’s look at Dave Smith because they talked about this (45:20) on part of the problem. (45:22) I just, I wanted to share this clip (45:23) because it can bridge us to our next topic. (45:28) Right.(45:28) I’m going to play it now, sir. (45:30) One of the things I think that COVID opened people up to (45:33) was like, how, which I guess, you know, (45:37) if you’ve, if you’re at all familiar with like, say, (45:40) like a, I don’t know, like Nazi scientists (45:43) or like commie scientists and some of the like, (45:46) really fucked up shit that they would do. (45:48) It’s, I don’t know that there was ever such an obvious example (45:52) in American, modern American history.(45:55) Obviously there have been other examples, (45:56) but I’m saying, I don’t know if there was such an obvious example (45:58) in such a large scale where you just kind of would see like, (46:02) oh, how evil science can be. (46:07) And if it’s not like rooted in any theory, (46:11) even loosely, like kind of in some vague sense, (46:17) you have some belief in what the things that are kind of (46:22) just givens to all of us. (46:23) I don’t mean like strict libertarians like us, (46:25) but just the idea that like humans have some rights.(46:28) Humans have the right to a fair trial. (46:30) They have the right to face their accuser. (46:32) They have the right of, you know, something.(46:34) And if you don’t have that, it’s very easy to just like. (46:45) Yeah, basically what I wanted to share from that (46:48) is just science does get evil. (46:50) And even when you go back and read like the old communist stuff (46:54) and Hayek talks about this in the road to serfdom, (46:57) talking about the bad parts of communism, (46:59) it’s that people think that they can scientifically manage a society.(47:05) And that is the start of where things go bad. (47:10) Because when you start to manage, you’re taking away the signals (47:12) that tell you how an economy should function. (47:15) You’re trying to basically say what people should do (47:19) and what people need to have.(47:21) And then you’re not going to think of everything. (47:24) So you’re going to leave people wanting. (47:27) Yeah.(47:29) And it’s weird because like science is the pursuit of the correct thing. (47:36) Yeah. (47:37) How how does it get personified or institutionalized or like? (47:44) It’s like it’s a philosophical concept just like anything else, isn’t it? (47:48) I mean, I don’t want to call it a philosophy (47:51) because it it’s rooted in like more factual things, (47:54) but it is a philosophy in reality, right? (47:59) Like science is kind of a philosophy of reality.(48:01) Mm hmm. (48:02) So why? (48:04) How is it? (48:05) It’s like it shouldn’t be an institution like science is evil. (48:08) No, science is just the pursuit itself.(48:10) Like and the Fauci thing, I’m science, all that shit. (48:13) All that stuff. (48:14) I just can’t.(48:15) I just can’t. (48:18) We bastardize. (48:20) Thinking you can science a population.(48:23) I think that’s where it goes wrong because you cannot predict. (48:26) You cannot control for all the variables involved. (48:29) It’s impossible.(48:31) Right. (48:32) Does that make sense? (48:32) Justin makes a good point. (48:33) Science explains that.(48:34) How, but not the why. (48:35) Right. (48:36) So there’s a purpose element or something.(48:38) If if we have that belief or perception in our lives that there’s a purpose. (48:43) Of course, we know that they were not following any science. (48:46) They just made shit up.(48:47) They’re just like, oh, yeah. (48:49) Well, why mass? (48:50) You’re breathing in a virus made up. (48:53) Oh, 10 feet.(48:54) That’s too far. (48:55) That’s like double digits, man. (48:56) We can’t do double digits, but we can do at least two meters.(48:59) Oh, wait, we don’t do meters. (49:00) We do yards. (49:01) OK, so we’ll do two yard six feet.(49:04) It’s more than five. (49:05) It sounds like it’s an even number. (49:06) I mean, it looks cool.(49:08) Some people think it’s nine. (49:09) I don’t know. (49:10) Like what was the best number? (49:13) Six is the best.(49:15) That’s what we decided down. (49:19) How would you want a six and a nine? (49:21) I think the six and the nine are my favorite two numbers, (49:25) especially when they’re pushed next to each other, because I like women. (49:30) Oh, I’m still just hearing Jimmy Stewart, man.(49:32) It’s I know. (49:33) I know. (49:33) I’m trying.(49:34) I had a dog. (49:35) That’s my more Jimmy Stewart. (49:36) I can’t I’m cracking.(49:38) I can’t get him cracked over. (49:40) It’s it’s it’s a weird thing. (49:41) I got to catch him.(49:42) And maybe my poison. (49:43) You’re drinking, brother. (49:47) Neurotoxin elite, sir.(49:50) It’s that or diabetes, my friend. (49:51) Or I could just quit this altogether. (49:53) Why would I want to do that? (49:54) I have vices.(49:56) I think if you actually smoke crack, you can cancel it out. (50:00) So you might think about that. (50:01) Oh, nice.(50:02) Well, I’ll have to change this guy to crack. (50:06) Hold on. (50:06) Let me screw this guy off and put on some crack.(50:10) All right, my friend, what do we have next? (50:13) Well, speaking of science, we’ve got the H1B thing to talk about. (50:20) So tell me, what is H1B, sir? (50:22) What is H1B? (50:23) H1B is a classification of a visa for a foreign worker. (50:28) It’s for particularly high skilled workers, as they call them.(50:36) So, yeah, MAGA, the MAGA movement has gone full retard once again this week. (50:42) Is that a surprise? (50:43) I think not. (50:44) It kicked off by Vivek Ramaswamy tweet.(50:49) So he’s we all know he’s been tagged to lead this department (50:52) of government efficiency, DOGE. (50:56) And he tweeted, I’ll share some of this, not all of it, because it’s long. (50:59) But he said, the reason top tech companies often hire foreign born and first generation (51:05) engineers over Native Americans, not Native Americans, but you know what we mean.(51:10) It’s not because of an innate American IQ deficit, which is a lazy and wrong explanation. (51:16) A key part of it comes down to the C word, culture. (51:19) Tough questions demand tough answers.(51:22) And if we’re really serious about fixing the problem, we have to confront the truth. (51:27) Our American culture has venerated mediocrity over excellence for way too long. (51:34) So let’s just stop there.(51:35) Any thoughts? (51:37) Yeah. (51:38) Can you read the part up with the lazy thing again? (51:40) Just read that first section through the lazy part. (51:44) Americans, yes.(51:46) The reason they hire first foreign born over first generation. (51:49) I’m sorry, I’m getting this all wrong. (51:51) Let me start over.(51:52) The reason top tech companies hire foreign born and first generation engineers over Native (51:56) Americans isn’t because of an innate American IQ deficit, a lazy and wrong explanation. (52:02) A key part of it comes down to the C word, culture. (52:06) So it’s not a lazy and wrong explanation.(52:08) It’s lazy and wrong Americans. (52:10) Lazy and wrong American culture. (52:12) Yes.(52:14) So it’s not my explanation of lower IQ. (52:17) It’s that you’re lazy pricks. (52:19) Yeah.(52:20) All right. (52:22) I mean, American culture, I kind of get it, right? (52:25) We see this. (52:26) You see like the people that are put at the top of our social hierarchies are like actors, (52:32) musicians, freaking Taylor Swift.(52:34) Everyone needs to know who she’s voting for before we can decide what to do, right? (52:40) So I see some of it. (52:42) I don’t think he’s totally wrong. (52:44) He’s not.(52:45) And I am actually the perfect example of that. (52:48) I am a Gen X. (52:50) Like I live the best generation. (52:53) There is no generation that’s going to live the way Gen Xers live, my friend.(52:58) We had it all. (53:00) The 90s, if you were an adult of any time in the 90s, you will not have it ever as good (53:09) unless something really drastic changes. (53:11) So I can tell you, I was a kid that did watch Saturday morning cartoons and did eat my cereal (53:17) and watch wrestling.(53:18) But then I went out and played with my bike and interacted with other Americans and we (53:22) built friendships. (53:23) And yeah, I didn’t study every day, but if I needed to, sure, I’d study. (53:28) My parents, I’m a first generation.(53:30) My parents were hard on me. (53:31) Absolutely. (53:31) My parents both came from Germany, both war torn.(53:35) East Germany was one of them. (53:36) They escaped from, you know, before the wall went up. (53:38) I know all about that.(53:40) He’s 100% correct. (53:42) And he’s welcome to say it. (53:43) I think we’re a little sensitive about that.(53:46) I don’t think it’s fair for him to say, oh, therefore you’re not worth me giving a shot (53:51) to. (53:53) Like, I don’t think. (53:54) And I don’t think he is saying that.(53:55) I think he is in the context of this is a supplemental thing to the American workforce, (54:01) right? (54:02) We’re adding some of the best. (54:03) He did start with the reason why. (54:05) But it is like I’m defending my stance because which kind of changes like, hey, this is my (54:10) general outlook on American culture.(54:13) It’d be interesting if he made it a little broader. (54:16) It may not have had the teeth, but I think obviously we’re pushing for something here, (54:21) right? (54:22) Yeah. (54:23) So he goes on, yada, yada, calls out some TV shows by name, including friends.(54:27) I guess he has a thing against friends. (54:30) Fair enough. (54:31) Hanging out at the mall, which the kids still do that.(54:34) I don’t know, but he goes on. (54:36) He’s doing all the time. (54:37) Willow Grove Mall.(54:38) Shout out. (54:38) Willow Grove Mall. (54:39) King of Pressure Mall.(54:40) The second largest in the east, east of the Mississippi. (54:46) All right. (54:46) Yeah.(54:46) I don’t know. (54:47) Anyways. (54:49) Sorry, bro.(54:51) I was an ex, bro. (54:53) We biked. (54:54) We biked through the ball.(54:55) We were bad boys. (54:57) We get it. (54:58) You’re old.(55:01) I’m sorry. (55:02) I’m sorry. (55:02) That wasn’t called for.(55:04) It was funny, man. (55:07) I can’t resist. (55:08) You know, I love you.(55:09) No, it’s great. (55:10) Keep coming. (55:11) Anyways, he goes, normalcy doesn’t cut it in a hyper competitive global market for technical (55:16) talent.(55:17) And if we pretend like it does, we’ll have our asses handed to us by China. (55:21) Now, I want to stop there because he’s on this. (55:24) Be afraid of China.(55:26) Boogeyman. (55:27) That’s a thing. (55:28) He’s like one of the major problems I had with his politics during his presidential run is (55:33) he’s into this war with China over Taiwan.(55:35) We should protect Taiwan, even though he seems to understand that other wars are bad. (55:42) He said that we need to defend Taiwan because of the semiconductors. (55:46) And I’m in that industry.(55:48) It would be a hit if China did go and take over Taiwan. (55:52) They make like 30% of the world’s chips, but it wouldn’t be catastrophic. (55:58) And just because China takes over doesn’t mean those aren’t still entering the market.(56:02) They might even be cheaper. (56:03) So it’s not something we need to go to war over it. (56:06) I don’t want them to take over Taiwan.(56:08) Obviously, I support their independence, but this is not. (56:12) If we go to war, it’s going to be much more devastating than losing that market. (56:19) Yeah.(56:19) Well, can we be clear about the United States has had a one China policy and they still do? (56:27) Yes. (56:28) Yeah. (56:28) What are we arguing about? (56:30) Where does Biden get off talking the shit that he did about them encroaching on Taiwan? (56:36) It is China.(56:37) It’s a one China policy. (56:38) We’ve had it this whole time. (56:41) So what are we talking about here? (56:44) How dare we? (56:46) Once again, this isn’t about what China do bad.(56:49) China does bad. (56:50) We know. (56:51) Duh, we fucking know.(56:53) But how dare we step on their throat again from our side of the (56:59) complete other half of the of the entire globe? (57:03) Ladies and gentlemen, the entire the other side, literally the other half of the globe. (57:08) What are we doing? (57:09) Stretching ourselves to against a country with, I don’t know, three times the people we do. (57:17) I mean, for what? (57:20) And I’m it’s just I’ve just gotten to that level because I was so pro.(57:24) I used to be that bomb at all. (57:26) Yeah. (57:27) America.(57:27) Great. (57:28) Stomp them all. (57:29) Stomp on.(57:29) Yeah, Taiwan should be free. (57:31) Yeah. (57:32) We’re going to force our freedom right up their ass if they like it or not.(57:34) Like an M-80 on a on a turtle or something like or on a frog or something like. (57:39) OK, yeah, that sounds that sounds really smart because it’s worked out so well. (57:43) It’s worked so well in Afghanistan.(57:45) 50 years. (57:46) Right. (57:47) That was 20 for forever war.(57:48) Yeah, it’s worked out so well. (57:50) Haven’t won a single conflict since the war. (57:53) The the the one following the great one, the World War Two.(57:56) We haven’t won a single conflict. (57:59) Nothing like. (58:00) And not only that, we.(58:01) It’s a big L for America, man. (58:04) And and people, everyone’s lost. (58:06) You don’t think that the damage that we did while we lost is irreparable? (58:10) Of course it is.(58:11) We we we just go in and just kick over beehives all day. (58:16) OK, yeah, that’s really good for them because they got through it because we didn’t win. (58:19) Yeah, I guess.(58:20) Yeah. (58:20) Big victory that they have a flattened city now that they get to go home to. (58:23) And and it’s only because of America that we’re paying for it.(58:28) Frickin sucks. (58:29) And we’re paying for it. (58:30) Right.(58:30) And we’re paying. (58:31) Everyone’s paying for it. (58:32) Really? (58:33) The whole world pays for it because it.(58:35) Yeah, it does, because it does remove prosperity from everyone. (58:39) War is not prosperous. (58:41) It’s not net profits.(58:43) It’s only profitable. (58:44) It’s only profitable to some people, but it’s not prosperous to all. (58:48) And it makes a few people very rich and it makes everyone else much poorer.(58:53) Yeah. (58:53) And if that makes me think of all the industry, we’re going to rebuild Ukraine. (58:57) We’re going to have millions of dollars of investment and going to make so much money (59:02) in this was like you just spent like 500 billion dollars to blow it up.(59:07) What the fuck? (59:10) Right. (59:10) And you’re going to put it in that you’re going to build up brand new in a volatile (59:13) area like that that just got out of a volatile situation, right on top of it. (59:17) And let’s not forget, like what kind of buildings do you think have been lost in Gaza, Israel, (59:26) in in Ukraine? (59:29) Beautiful.(59:29) Whether it’s a cathedral and I’m not a Christian or a religious person, I’m just talking about (59:35) there is beauty in sculpture and architecture that was built absolutely had to have been (59:41) built and constructed. (59:42) That is it’s Europe. (59:43) So it is how many thousands of years old that is just dust now.(59:48) For what? (59:50) For the same outcome. (59:52) You know what I mean? (59:54) That’s part of the culture, right? (59:56) That’s all those buildings, the architecture, the art. (59:59) That’s part of their history, man.(1:00:01) That’s that’s what makes your culture. (1:00:03) Not all of it. (1:00:04) You know, a lot of it’s people carrying it on.(1:00:06) But those are like reminders. (1:00:08) Those are like an anchor to your your culture. (1:00:13) Yeah.(1:00:15) Yeah. (1:00:16) Great point. (1:00:17) Anyway, last part of the big screen here.(1:00:20) He says this can be our Sputnik moment. (1:00:23) We’ve awakened from slumber before and we can do it again. (1:00:26) Trump’s election hopefully marks the beginning of a new golden era in America.(1:00:29) But only if our culture fully wakes up a culture that once again prioritizes achievement over (1:00:35) normalcy, excellence over mediocrity, nerdiness over conformity, hard work over laziness. (1:00:42) So there’s the comment. (1:00:44) Americans are lazy, conformant, media, mediocre, normal.(1:00:52) What do we think? (1:00:54) I don’t disagree with this statement, and he’s welcome to make it. (1:00:59) I don’t if he’s just saying it to say it, but it doesn’t excuse. (1:01:03) Like it doesn’t defend or excuse any of the actions.(1:01:06) If this is the problem, why didn’t you start that way? (1:01:09) You go, you know, it’d be really great. (1:01:11) It’d be great if we worked on combining cultures and making it the taking the best (1:01:15) parts of each culture, making a better America or something like it’s almost intentionally (1:01:21) written to create a jagged edge versus like you could say it much more eloquently. (1:01:29) I thought, what are your thoughts on that? (1:01:30) Because Vivek is capable of being really eloquent, by the way.(1:01:35) Yeah, and he put out such a long tweet. (1:01:37) You think he would, you know, take a little time to make it more clear what he’s trying (1:01:42) to say here? (1:01:43) Because if you are just saying, yeah, Americans are lazy, that’s why we got to hire Indians (1:01:47) and Chinese and everybody else. (1:01:50) That’s a lazy statement.(1:01:53) Because, yeah, I think he’s partially right. (1:01:55) There’s a big part of American culture, and it’s not just one culture either. (1:02:00) There’s a big part of America that’s just gotten into a malaise, and it’s not necessarily (1:02:07) people’s fault.(1:02:08) We could get really deep into it and probably take it down all the way to Fiat money. (1:02:15) And I would go read the Fiat Standard by Saifedean Amoos. (1:02:19) That one explains exactly how the culture gets messed up through lowering, or I think (1:02:25) it’s, I always get this mixed up, but raising, I think it’s raising people’s time preference (1:02:30) so that when you get money right away, you got to go spend it and you’re not thinking (1:02:34) about the future.(1:02:34) So when you think about the future, you’re planning ahead. (1:02:38) You care about things more. (1:02:39) You’re more interested in long-term goals rather than just, I need an immediate gratification (1:02:45) right now.(1:02:47) Yeah, and that’s a great point. (1:02:49) Once again, you brought Saifedean Ameed up, which is funny because I, once again, we just (1:02:54) started connecting with Perb Island, and he shared his podcast with Perb. (1:02:57) So that’s the first one I’m going to watch before I reach out to Perb.(1:03:01) I’m going to watch that one and his Free Cities one because I had Natalie Demolition on one (1:03:06) time from Free Cities. (1:03:07) So that’s an excellent point that you made about Saifedean because that, what’s a Bitcoin (1:03:12) Standard, right? (1:03:13) That is the book, I think. (1:03:14) That one, the Fiat Standard, but both.(1:03:16) Oh, the Fiat Standard, I’m sorry. (1:03:17) Yeah. (1:03:18) Fiat Standard, right.(1:03:19) So once again, Saifedean Ameed is, I hope I’m saying that correctly. (1:03:24) Amoos. (1:03:25) Saifedean Amoos.(1:03:26) I’m sorry. (1:03:27) Amoos, apologies. (1:03:30) Stuff from bouncing my head.(1:03:31) But anyway. (1:03:32) Thank you, sir. (1:03:34) That aside, I think, yes, he’s partially right.(1:03:37) But I did, you shared this with me from Jimmy Dore, was pretty funny, talking about these (1:03:42) comments, if you want to play that one. (1:03:45) Absolutely. (1:03:45) Here we go.(1:03:46) Bath tutoring, fewer sleepovers, more weekend science competitions, fewer Saturday morning (1:03:52) cartoons, more books, less TV, more creating, less chill. (1:03:56) So you’re telling me that the culture in India is, this is really something. (1:04:02) Because I would look up what percentage of the Indian culture defecate outside.(1:04:09) I saw Ted talk on this, by the way. (1:04:11) No, I know. (1:04:12) That’s a whole initiative that they talk about.(1:04:14) I’m not making this up. (1:04:15) Grateful to not get paid enough because there’s no bathrooms. (1:04:20) And I, again, I’m not.(1:04:22) Yeah. (1:04:24) We have Indian. (1:04:28) Indians shitting in the streets, man.(1:04:31) I mean, if you’re going to throw stones, make sure you’re not in a glass house first. (1:04:37) No kidding, right? (1:04:38) Yeah. (1:04:38) Like they don’t have problems of their own, right? (1:04:40) Have you seen the train cars that they ride on? (1:04:42) They’re like hanging off the fucking back.(1:04:44) Oh, yeah, right. (1:04:45) That sounds like a fun ride. (1:04:48) Yeah.(1:04:49) But that’s, I mean, that’s the problem with this. (1:04:51) On their culture. (1:04:53) Yeah.(1:04:54) Look, I had some amazing. (1:04:56) May I share a story about an Indian friend of mine that I grew up with? (1:04:59) I’ll use his first name. (1:05:00) I won’t use the last name.(1:05:02) AJ. (1:05:04) AJ. (1:05:04) Anybody listening who knows me knows AJ, probably growing up from high school.(1:05:09) AJ lived down the street from me. (1:05:11) He would do birthday parties. (1:05:13) And I would be, he and I would do play, like play dates, like his mom and my mom would (1:05:17) obviously arrange play dates.(1:05:18) We do like operation and we’d always geek out. (1:05:22) We were geeks. (1:05:22) We were nerds.(1:05:23) No doubt. (1:05:23) But that’s like what we were. (1:05:24) Young men, young Gen X boys like playing.(1:05:26) We play with science stuff. (1:05:27) Like computer just started coming up and he’s Indian. (1:05:30) I’m German.(1:05:31) Like we’re just like techie people. (1:05:32) Like we were like all cool stuff, right? (1:05:34) We go over his house. (1:05:35) I remember specifically birthday parties, watching the cartoon version of The Hobbit every time.(1:05:41) And I remember knowing when it was when we got his birthday invitation. (1:05:44) We’re like, oh, cool. (1:05:45) We’re going to watch The Hobbit.(1:05:46) I just like remember like these weird stories, right? (1:05:49) This is the one thing that I, this is the one thing about the jock mentality that we’ll (1:05:53) probably get into, right? (1:05:54) So AJ goes in, he is, has a perfect GPA and he is in his final year in high school and (1:06:02) he takes a phys ed class. (1:06:04) And in that phys ed class is swimming. (1:06:07) Now the gentleman does not swim very well, but watching that guy paddle and try his butt (1:06:15) off as he’s not succeeding.(1:06:17) But the effort that he put in, he got a C for that class and he didn’t get valedictorian (1:06:24) because of that. (1:06:26) And I think about that time and I think about like the jock guy, because it was a jock tennis (1:06:31) coach that was the phys ed teacher, you know, the big chested jock guy that’s talking around, (1:06:37) uh, you know, and I’m not going to lie, man, those dudes, that, that energy really affected (1:06:46) some of those tech guys who were really smart and they really did them wrong. (1:06:52) And, and there’s blowback like there is on everything, man.(1:06:55) Like it’s just popped in my head. (1:06:58) Right. (1:07:00) But I even think about it, but like watching him paddle and watching that kid try, the (1:07:04) kid got an A for effort, has nothing to do with the result of the fricking thing.(1:07:10) It’s that he fricking tried. (1:07:11) It’s not like he sat on the bench saying, I can’t do it. (1:07:13) I can’t.(1:07:14) No, he goes, I’m trying, you know, like that kind of stuff kills me because it’s like that (1:07:21) kind of, for example, it’s phys ed, man. (1:07:24) What, how does that skill in that one little thing continue in life? (1:07:28) The efforts would actually, I would think would be the skill, the life lesson there (1:07:32) that he never gave up and kept trying, you know, but to see that kind of stuff. (1:07:37) So like, what are your thoughts on stuff like that? (1:07:39) Like, that’s where you get this weird jock that he was inherently inferior.(1:07:43) Is that the point? (1:07:44) Yeah. (1:07:46) No. (1:07:47) And then he shat in the pool.(1:07:48) Ah, fuck. (1:07:50) No, no, man. (1:07:54) I, I feel this personally because I work with a lot.(1:07:58) I’m an engineer. (1:07:59) I work with a lot of people from other countries, people from Taiwan, India, Korea, primarily. (1:08:07) And the truth is most of them are a lot better than the American employees.(1:08:13) It’s kind of crazy. (1:08:14) Like, but it’s a different kind of thing because the Americans will be more outspoken. (1:08:22) They’ll be more independent.(1:08:25) Whereas the foreign people that we hire, again, this is a huge generality. (1:08:29) It’s not everyone, I should say. (1:08:32) But generally, the people that are foreign are very good at following along, following (1:08:37) the rules, doing things by the book, exactly how they’re supposed to be done, doing it (1:08:42) efficiently, which is great that you need that.(1:08:45) Right. (1:08:46) But if you want to, like, invent something, if you want to be a manager, if you want to, (1:08:52) like, lead a company, that’s not going to cut it. (1:08:57) Does that make sense? (1:08:58) It makes excellent sense.(1:09:00) I know you got a couple of clips that are going to highlight a lot of that, so I don’t (1:09:03) want to step on those toes. (1:09:05) Yeah, before we get. (1:09:07) Yeah.(1:09:07) Go ahead. (1:09:08) Go ahead. (1:09:09) No, no, I wasn’t going to step on the toes on that because I don’t want to get too deep (1:09:12) into that.(1:09:13) But to your point, like, yeah, once again, glass houses. (1:09:18) Come on. (1:09:20) That’s not every person.(1:09:21) I do know what first generation is because they do have to work harder. (1:09:24) But with that H1B, they’re slaves, too, because if they do step out of line, what happens (1:09:29) to them? (1:09:29) They go back. (1:09:30) Right.(1:09:30) I mean, that’s just the first order. (1:09:32) So, like, we have the luxury. (1:09:34) And I think what you talk about, like American employees, I agree.(1:09:37) I don’t disagree one one bit. (1:09:39) But we have Americans have a certain entitlement. (1:09:43) About being Americans.(1:09:45) And that like, well, you really can’t boss me around, even though you are my boss, kind (1:09:49) of. (1:09:49) So I’m kind of so you know what I mean? (1:09:51) There’s like a weird thing, but I you know, there’s that weird piece there. (1:09:55) But like the American really, it comes both ways.(1:10:00) Yeah. (1:10:00) Yeah, it does. (1:10:01) OK, I’ll leave it there.(1:10:03) Yeah, because I mean, that’s good in a lot of ways. (1:10:06) But when you are trying to work as a team, get things done, you do need at some point (1:10:11) you need to follow like everyone needs to, even if you’re a manager, if you’re a leader, (1:10:15) at some point you’re going to have to do it. (1:10:18) Agreed.(1:10:20) So, yeah, again, I don’t I think the foreign culture thing, too, we’re generalizing and (1:10:26) it would be lazy for us to say that all Indians are shitting in the streets or all Chinese (1:10:31) people, whatever. (1:10:32) It’s not a fact. (1:10:34) But I think we want to keep the people coming in.(1:10:36) Right. (1:10:36) I don’t know if we’ll get to our conclusions about this, but we do want the best people (1:10:41) here, I would think. (1:10:43) I would agree if it’s done.(1:10:46) And once again, if there is an overhaul talk to be talked about, that’s one thing. (1:10:49) But if you look at I don’t know how deep we I know you’re going to add some clips here. (1:10:53) And but we were talking about some of the percentages that they actually did bring in (1:10:58) because Jimmy did go through some of that and some of his other segments.(1:11:01) I didn’t want to pull up too much stuff because I don’t want to I don’t like doing double (1:11:04) what everybody else does. (1:11:05) I like reflecting on some of it, but I like what we’re doing because I like that you’re (1:11:08) giving a fresh perspective on it. (1:11:10) Yeah, but it it’s the ones that obviously.(1:11:14) So there’s an oh one process allegedly that I that I know of that is the highest of the (1:11:20) high. (1:11:20) And that makes sense. (1:11:21) Like that would make sense.(1:11:21) Like the Operation Paperclip. (1:11:23) When I think when when Dave Smith was talking about Nazis like scientists, there’s this (1:11:29) thing, ladies and gentlemen, called Operation Paperclip. (1:11:32) I don’t know if you heard about it, but after World War Two, when when Germany went to kaput (1:11:39) two thirds, America scooped up about two thirds of these Nazi scientists and Russia got about (1:11:45) a third of them.(1:11:46) In that scoop up that we got was a guy named Wernher von Braun, who was grade a number (1:11:52) one, one of these Nazis of really Nazi guy, allegedly Nazi while Nuremberg was going on. (1:11:58) All the other people were getting tried. (1:12:01) This man built rockets to put us to space because he took the V2 technology and he applied (1:12:06) it because he did always want to see the stars.(1:12:08) Now, one can argue Wernher von Braun. (1:12:11) All he wanted to do was get into space with his rockets. (1:12:15) And it didn’t matter who was pulling the strings or who could fund it.(1:12:18) That was his dream. (1:12:19) I can’t I can’t necessarily fault him for that per se. (1:12:23) But when atrocities start happening and you know about atrocities, I think that’s where (1:12:28) you and I get with the NAP.(1:12:29) We kind of step in ourselves and say, yeah, this isn’t we’re not going to be party that (1:12:33) party to that. (1:12:34) What are your thoughts? (1:12:41) I just yeah, the culture things weird because you also like you don’t want people to have (1:12:48) that culture like if you go to Asia, you see kids in school all day, every day after school (1:12:54) studying only. (1:12:55) That’s that’s their whole life.(1:12:57) That’s just not a childhood that people should have, man. (1:13:00) And I believe a full life, the schooling system. (1:13:04) Yeah.(1:13:04) You got to have some balance. (1:13:06) The university is always good. (1:13:08) Yeah, we’ll get into that, I guess.(1:13:13) Yeah. (1:13:13) Anyway, do you want to add those clips? (1:13:17) Oh, let me get that. (1:13:19) Yeah.(1:13:19) While I’m doing that, I got on his faces with Jack Posobiec and Oren McIntyre was on it. (1:13:26) They were talking about this. (1:13:28) I didn’t realize what a Christian nationalist Oren is, by the way.(1:13:31) It’s kind of crazy. (1:13:32) I do have his book, The Total State, which is amazing. (1:13:35) I recommend it for everyone.(1:13:36) But it blows my mind that he concludes that we still need a state at the end of it because (1:13:41) he talks about all the problems with it, why democracy can’t work and all of it. (1:13:46) He nails all the nitty gritty details. (1:13:49) And then he’s still just like this conservative dude.(1:13:51) So I don’t get it. (1:13:53) But anyway, they were talking. (1:13:54) They admitted some of the things that you and I would agree with that.(1:13:58) Yeah, we do want the best here. (1:13:59) We do want American businesses to be able to hire highly qualified people, blah, blah, (1:14:04) blah. (1:14:04) But they were not having the work ethic argument.(1:14:07) And they said that if there’s any truth to it, that Americans are lazy and the work ethic (1:14:12) isn’t matched by foreigners, it’s because of the DEI stuff. (1:14:18) So Oren said that white Americans are being held down by DEI. (1:14:23) And Jack agreed and said that that is leading to the work ethic issue.(1:14:26) And he says, you can’t say that people are discriminated against. (1:14:30) That, sorry, you can’t say that people who are discriminated against have a problem (1:14:36) with work ethic. (1:14:37) The problem is because we have race hiring quotas.(1:14:40) It’s because they can’t promote white males, etc. (1:14:44) And that’s why Americans, especially white Americans, have given up. (1:14:48) So what do you think about that? (1:14:50) Any truth there? (1:14:53) So I’m just going to try to steal a minute.(1:14:56) I’m trying to just get clarification. (1:14:59) Yeah. (1:14:59) So what you’re saying is DEI because of DEI, people with abilities have not been able to (1:15:10) enter or advance within certain industries.(1:15:13) Is that what the argument will be? (1:15:16) Yeah. (1:15:16) And in turn, that attitude has led them to be lazier or, you know. (1:15:22) Less effort.(1:15:24) Because why should I try if I can’t? (1:15:26) But it’s not making the white people who are being disenfranchised lazier. (1:15:30) It’s just making the entire workplace lazier because it’s a watered down, less competent (1:15:36) staff because it’s filled with qualifications that are not by merit. (1:15:42) They’re by physical features or other things that are visible that one identifies as.(1:15:48) Does that sound correct? (1:15:51) Okay. (1:15:53) I would agree that that is true, but I also do think that culturally. (1:16:02) As just a white guy who had it all, I’m a lucky white guy who didn’t get that.(1:16:07) I’ve seen it happen after, but the coddling of the American mind, the feminization of men, (1:16:13) be more like women so you can get women, be less like a man. (1:16:18) Those things don’t work. (1:16:20) And it’s not because I agree with them or don’t agree with them.(1:16:23) It’s because evolution and biology agrees with it. (1:16:27) That it doesn’t work. (1:16:28) There’s like men do these things.(1:16:30) Women do these things. (1:16:32) This type of energy has this type of thing. (1:16:34) This type of nurture, you know, assertiveness protects, you know, and fends off and nurturing (1:16:39) creates and helps grow like both sides are needed.(1:16:43) Everything’s important. (1:16:44) So it’s very interesting how we, how we come to that. (1:16:48) You know what I mean? (1:16:48) Like toxic, the whole toxic thing.(1:16:50) But with DEI, yeah, I would agree. (1:16:52) Look at politicians and look at what I would call a highly feminized and highly diverse (1:17:01) political group on one specific side of the aisle. (1:17:06) And then look at the words that they utter, how they speak, if they’re eloquent, if they (1:17:11) have any intelligence, if any of the ideas can stand two sentences of like with, you (1:17:16) know, two sentences against them, those types of people, those are the people.(1:17:20) And there’s people on the, on the right, like a Lindsey Graham who just got to have all (1:17:25) those minerals, just got to have all them trillion dollars minerals from Ukraine. (1:17:30) Same thing. (1:17:32) Stupid.(1:17:32) What’s that? (1:17:33) Who’s that moron? (1:17:34) Tuberville. (1:17:35) That’s guy. (1:17:35) Let me drag that piece of crap.(1:17:37) Dude, Tuberville, all he could coach, he could barely hold high school college kids together (1:17:44) because he owned them for four years. (1:17:46) He created slave labor while he was coach and winning all those games, using children (1:17:52) as labor for free for fucking free with that bullshit education that they got. (1:17:59) And then he became a senator.(1:18:00) And he’s like, China is going to come over here and dirty our air and switch like Herschel (1:18:07) Walker. (1:18:07) I’m with Herschel Walker on that. (1:18:09) Shut up, Tommy Tuberville.(1:18:11) I’ve had it with you, dude. (1:18:13) You sicken me. (1:18:14) I’m like, I’m done.(1:18:15) You know what I mean? (1:18:16) Like these people are disgusting. (1:18:18) And I just I get off like crazy because like they don’t they don’t understand meritocracy (1:18:23) either. (1:18:24) Meritocracy is real simple, man.(1:18:26) Can you do the job? (1:18:28) Just do the job. (1:18:29) Prove that you can do it, work your way through it, and then execute. (1:18:33) If you can’t do it at that point, it doesn’t matter how you identify what color you are, (1:18:38) your height, your weight.(1:18:40) None of that matters. (1:18:42) What matters is competence. (1:18:44) And yes, some people start at a lower rung on the ladder and have to fight harder.(1:18:50) And those people should be. (1:18:52) They should be revered and proud because they fought harder. (1:18:55) Yeah.(1:18:56) Nope. (1:18:56) But they’re also competent, too. (1:18:59) You know? (1:19:00) I don’t know.(1:19:01) Absolutely. (1:19:02) I wish I knew more about this guy you’re talking about. (1:19:05) Because who am I talking about? (1:19:06) Oh, Tuberville, Tuberville.(1:19:07) I don’t even know how we got here. (1:19:09) I just he used to be it was an Alabama head coach or Arkansas, one of these guys. (1:19:13) And then he just went right into politics.(1:19:14) And you’re like, the dude’s just clearly stupid. (1:19:17) But he holds the reins on all the stuff. (1:19:20) He’s the one who tried to refuse military promotions until they address some kind of (1:19:27) thing.(1:19:28) And he just gets. (1:19:29) I’m not saying I agree or don’t. (1:19:31) I’m just saying the dude’s the dude doesn’t know what issue to take that’s correct, nor (1:19:35) does he take the correct issue or right side on things.(1:19:40) Oh, shit, man. (1:19:41) When we look at the people that we actually elect, it’s kind of hard to disagree with (1:19:45) Vivek here. (1:19:46) I think the culture is really messed up.(1:19:49) Look, we’ve got we have gotten lazy. (1:19:52) Yeah, you know, we did. (1:19:53) We’ve gotten.(1:19:54) And I think our parents did want the best for us because they had it harder, I think. (1:19:58) And there is a coddling. (1:19:59) There’s like a slow, you know, Jonathan Haidt.(1:20:01) Coddling in the American Mind is a really great book. (1:20:04) And it really speaks to like this. (1:20:06) And I’ll share just one of the quick and now the quick stories.(1:20:09) But in the beginning, he talks about peanuts and they have a class meeting about banning (1:20:14) peanuts from the school because there’s allergies out there. (1:20:18) And they go, well, does anybody have a peanut allergy? (1:20:22) And they’re like, no. (1:20:24) So they banned it anyway.(1:20:27) What do you abandon it? (1:20:29) What? (1:20:29) Like, OK, make the argument one kid has an allergy. (1:20:33) So let’s keep peanuts out of the room. (1:20:35) But nobody has it.(1:20:36) So let’s create the resistance to the allergy of like, let’s create. (1:20:41) You know what I mean? (1:20:41) You haven’t had your covid shot. (1:20:43) You’re not welcome in.(1:20:44) Well, do you have covid? (1:20:45) No. (1:20:46) But you could still spread it. (1:20:48) How? (1:20:52) It’s crazy, man.(1:20:54) Yeah. (1:20:55) All right. (1:20:56) Yeah.(1:20:56) So I’m not really buying this argument that it’s all D.I. (1:21:00) Maybe there’s some effect, but I kind of look at this like the systemic racism thing. (1:21:04) Like, yes, you can find things. (1:21:06) You can find examples of things that have carried over from times where there was actually (1:21:11) law mandated racism.(1:21:13) But I think this is just an excuse. (1:21:18) I think it’s an excuse. (1:21:20) And I’ll be honest, like I went oh, I went to college with a lot of people in the military, (1:21:25) for example.(1:21:26) I went to Embry-Riddle, like a flight school. (1:21:28) So it was a little more conservative minded. (1:21:30) So mind you, all the people that are probably in that bubble that I would call it the college (1:21:34) kids that had kids probably raise their kids a little more.(1:21:38) Structured the way they need to be on a schedule, things like that, because that’s the people (1:21:42) in my circle, right? (1:21:44) So I could see that, but I don’t have kids personally, so I don’t know what the like (1:21:48) the lay normal person does, how they raise their children. (1:21:52) I just know that somehow I my parents instilled really good structure in me early to just (1:21:58) not do anything like illegal crazy out of hand, but to be independent. (1:22:04) And I don’t know if that’s taught as much because a lot of kids stay at home.(1:22:08) They’re yeah, I think it’s really disappearing. (1:22:12) My childhood independence is not there anymore. (1:22:16) That’s a general cultural thing, too, that doesn’t help.(1:22:18) I think that’s one that I certainly wish we could recapture a little bit of. (1:22:22) We should make a government program to do that. (1:22:24) What do you think? (1:22:26) Sounds great.(1:22:27) Let’s do it. (1:22:28) What could go wrong? (1:22:32) One more point they made that I just want to debunk right now. (1:22:35) They said that companies get tax incentives for hiring people on these visas that I’ve (1:22:40) looked into it.(1:22:41) I’ve experienced it myself. (1:22:42) That’s just not true. (1:22:44) You can’t pay these people less.(1:22:46) In fact, it’s more expensive because it takes for one. (1:22:49) It takes longer to get someone in the door. (1:22:50) So you’re waiting for an employee to come in.(1:22:52) But then you’ve got to pay visa expenses. (1:22:54) A lot of companies do relocation and moving internationally is very expensive. (1:22:59) And then we got to wait for them to start.(1:23:03) Moving takes a long time. (1:23:04) Getting all the paperwork done. (1:23:06) We have a whole legal department that handles these immigration cases.(1:23:11) So it’s very expensive. (1:23:13) It’s not cheaper. (1:23:15) Right.(1:23:15) Yeah. (1:23:16) Well, I don’t know if you saw that segment with Jimmy because he mentioned it. (1:23:21) Trump actually put in penalties that made it more expensive.(1:23:24) Like he had H-1B visa penalties instilled, and they’ve been since removed. (1:23:31) I see. (1:23:31) So there were some anti-incentives.(1:23:35) It was actually more. (1:23:37) Okay. (1:23:38) Yes.(1:23:38) Right. (1:23:39) So that’s what he reported. (1:23:41) Now, I’m speaking third hand.(1:23:42) Once again, it’s what I watched today while watching this. (1:23:46) So my understanding was that Trump, during his first administration, added penalties, (1:23:50) a tariff almost to the H-1B to make it more cost effective to hire Americans. (1:23:58) I do think Trump cares about Americans in that general sense.(1:24:03) Yeah. (1:24:04) No, I do. (1:24:04) He’ll still use them as a human shield.(1:24:06) But I do think that anyway. (1:24:12) How dare you say that? (1:24:14) It’s really, really insulting. (1:24:16) I can’t believe it.(1:24:18) It’s terrible. (1:24:20) I was like, well, Nancy and I. (1:24:24) All right. (1:24:25) So I’m pretty much in the camp.(1:24:28) And oh, I did want to talk about what you just mentioned there, too, though. (1:24:32) Remember, if you bring them over, though, they are a little indentured. (1:24:36) They get out of hand.(1:24:37) First of all, culturally, they are already subservient because it is their culture, right? (1:24:42) That is a general just mentioned caste system, obviously, in India. (1:24:46) China has a very cultured system. (1:24:48) It’s very subdued, restrained, whatever, right? (1:24:52) All that regressed or repressed or whatever.(1:24:55) Now you add the fact that, oh, if you act out of hand, now you raise flags to get you (1:24:59) out of here again. (1:25:00) That actually exacerbates your compliance, doesn’t it? (1:25:04) So it could actually create a lot of issues. (1:25:06) If you get a number of these people who are just compliant, you do not grow to your point (1:25:11) in a creative way.(1:25:13) Yeah, right. (1:25:15) Yeah, so I mean, I’m pretty much in the camp of open free markets, hire people that you (1:25:19) want to hire, right? (1:25:20) I don’t care about the national borders. (1:25:22) That shouldn’t even be a thing.(1:25:25) Except there’s one thing that I didn’t really put together that I want to talk about next, (1:25:30) and that’s from Eric Weinstein. (1:25:32) There’s a few people that if I’m in disagreement with them, I will always listen to what they (1:25:37) have to say. (1:25:38) And Eric is one of them.(1:25:39) And I might even change my mind. (1:25:41) So he pushed back on Vivek’s tweet. (1:25:45) He said, you heard a lot of people.(1:25:47) And he says, the claim that America is inferior in STEM is calumny. (1:25:51) What is true that Americans in STEM behave like Americans? (1:25:55) Our own scientists aren’t going to act like employees. (1:25:58) Our engineers aren’t going to say, whatever you say, boss.(1:26:01) We aren’t lining up to sign your DEI oaths. (1:26:04) Our own scientists and engineers expect their kids to go to the top schools. (1:26:08) They expect to get recognized for discoveries.(1:26:10) They expect academic freedom. (1:26:12) They expect to be financially secure, et cetera, et cetera. (1:26:15) I say, Vivek, that our system produces the best STEM talent in the world and then promptly (1:26:20) destroys most of what it produces in favor of more pliant labor.(1:26:25) Let’s have this out. (1:26:28) Yeah. (1:26:28) So that’s what he said.(1:26:30) Remember, he turned down the debate, right? (1:26:32) There hasn’t been a debate. (1:26:34) If Vivek did not respond to his request for a debate, yes. (1:26:39) That does speak volumes, though.(1:26:41) Just on knowing that when Vivek destroyed all these midwits because he can and now he (1:26:48) comes up against Eric freaking Weinstein. (1:26:52) Good luck. (1:26:53) Good luck.(1:26:55) What are your thoughts on that? (1:26:57) Him not saying anything about it. (1:27:01) I think he’s probably taking it to heart. (1:27:03) He’s probably thinking about it, I would expect.(1:27:06) Vivek always seemed a little bit slimy to me, a little too politiciany, a little polished. (1:27:12) So I don’t trust him necessarily. (1:27:14) But he does say a lot of good things that align with actual libertarian values.(1:27:19) So I have some respect for him. (1:27:22) But just to duck this completely is interesting. (1:27:26) I think maybe he’s actually thinking about it, maybe reformulating opinion.(1:27:33) I think it’s necessary. (1:27:36) This would be one of the most interesting conversations, because Vivek is someone who (1:27:41) concerns me like he concerns you. (1:27:45) I understand what you’re talking about, the fakeness.(1:27:47) It’s a very Obama timber. (1:27:49) He really announces what he says when he talks. (1:27:52) And I think that comes across as fake.(1:27:55) And he’s gotten better at it. (1:27:56) You’ve seen him obviously improve, and they always improve, right? (1:27:58) What scares me is he’s brilliant. (1:28:02) But like he was that nerd when he talked.(1:28:04) That tweet about culture or that ex about post about culture is about his pain as a (1:28:10) child being picked on by the jocks and whatever. (1:28:14) And I know this because I was one of these bridgers. (1:28:18) Like I would hang out with all the nerds because I was a nerd.(1:28:22) And I never understood how people saw anyone differently. (1:28:25) I really didn’t understand that. (1:28:27) Like so if anybody picked, I’d step in.(1:28:29) It just was my thing. (1:28:30) I don’t know. (1:28:31) I’m sure most people would.(1:28:34) But I would be like, what are you doing? (1:28:36) This is stupid. (1:28:37) Like these kids are, you know, everybody’s awesome. (1:28:40) Like, you know what I mean? (1:28:41) And the way these kids, the way kids thought I just loved.(1:28:45) I would just suck up all different information from all different children who were just (1:28:48) brilliant, but they weren’t the most talented on the sports field or whatever. (1:28:52) But I did that separately. (1:28:53) You know, you can keep them apart.(1:28:55) You know, we need to welcome these minds. (1:28:57) But I think some of that tweet was a little bit of a pick. (1:29:00) And now he’s got a little bit of it.(1:29:02) Once again, we go to ego. (1:29:03) He’s got popularity. (1:29:05) And now it’s starting to get to his head.(1:29:07) Now he’s testing the waters of where, how far he can dip his toe before he offends people. (1:29:12) Like how much is he in with the crowd? (1:29:15) You know what I mean? (1:29:15) I almost feels like he’s almost kind of testing a little bit like that, too. (1:29:19) Because he is that smart.(1:29:20) He’s a really smart guy. (1:29:23) Yeah, agreed. (1:29:25) So maybe we should hear out Weinstein’s full argument because we found these clips.(1:29:30) These are a little bit older, but they’re from Ben Shapiro’s show. (1:29:33) So if you want to hit the first one. (1:29:35) I will hit the first one to preface as well.(1:29:38) I did not have the time to do it. (1:29:40) But I do know that Weinstein talked about this with wine. (1:29:44) I’m sorry.(1:29:44) Weinstein, right? (1:29:45) Yeah. (1:29:46) Weinstein. (1:29:46) Apologies.(1:29:47) He’s not Harvey. (1:29:48) They’re not. (1:29:49) They are not Harvey.(1:29:52) Weinstein did. (1:29:53) What was it? (1:29:54) He did the Rogan where he talked about this in depth. (1:29:57) And it was like four or five years ago as well.(1:29:59) So very in line with this. (1:30:01) When it comes to that issue. (1:30:02) So let’s talk about high skilled immigration for a second.(1:30:04) Because we may have a difference of opinion on this. (1:30:07) I’ve always been an advocate for high skilled immigration. (1:30:09) You obviously oppose high skilled immigration, at least in certain sectors.(1:30:12) What is the downside of high skilled immigration? (1:30:16) Is it just the people are being promised jobs that aren’t materializing in the United States? (1:30:19) Or is there a net detriment to the United States with people bringing in high skilled (1:30:23) immigrants to fill jobs in sectors where they want to lower the price? (1:30:29) First of all, I don’t even know where to begin. (1:30:32) Certain amount of high skilled immigration has always been present. (1:30:35) And we do benefit from getting the absolute top talent in the world.(1:30:38) But that’s not really what we’re looking at. (1:30:40) What we’re looking at is a bunch of systems that depress the market so that we lose top (1:30:45) talent that doesn’t choose to go into science and engineering, but goes into investment (1:30:50) banking or management consulting or some other sector. (1:30:54) Because these salaries are so low.(1:30:56) It means that a lot of our technical edge, which we use to power our own economy and (1:31:04) our own defense structure, finds its way to the four or five countries in Asia, which (1:31:09) supply us with most of the cryptic labor that we call graduates. (1:31:20) Muted, I think, buddy. (1:31:23) I’m muted.(1:31:24) I’m here now. (1:31:25) It’s a good point, though, that the salaries are artificially depressed. (1:31:29) And I feel that my salary should be much higher.(1:31:32) And I would have been better off going into a field like finance, going and doing something (1:31:37) like stock trading where you’re not even really helping the economy. (1:31:42) You’re doing something that’s rent seeking, you know, something that’s not productive. (1:31:48) So all the smartest people, all the smartest Americans, if you notice, went to finance.(1:31:52) Yeah. (1:31:53) And it’s number pushing, paper pushing millions, billions of dollars. (1:31:57) But yeah, sure.(1:31:59) The money has to get from here to there. (1:32:01) But come on, man. (1:32:02) There’s no way.(1:32:03) We don’t need that many people doing it, really. (1:32:05) Right. (1:32:06) That level doesn’t need to be that level of middleman doesn’t need to be there.(1:32:11) So that has bloated that industry. (1:32:14) I mean, part of it. (1:32:15) There’s a lot more to it, obviously.(1:32:18) But really, he does agree that we do benefit from getting this top talent. (1:32:24) But he says that’s not what we’re talking about here. (1:32:26) We’re talking about importing labor.(1:32:29) And it’s kind of the people I was talking about who are really smart, like really (1:32:34) technically capable of following a system, following instructions. (1:32:40) But they’re not like the inventors. (1:32:42) They’re not the ones creating new things.(1:32:45) So those are the kinds of people that we’re bringing in. (1:32:47) And it is artificially killing other people’s salaries. (1:32:52) But to protect against that, that’s where I’m still kind of struggling because I don’t think (1:32:57) the protectionist mindset is good.(1:33:00) I think that also depresses the economics of it somehow does. (1:33:07) Yeah, I mean, it’s a sticky wicket, right? (1:33:08) How do we resolve? (1:33:11) Because I’m not where you are. (1:33:14) Like I said, I’m still deprogramming.(1:33:17) I’m still trying to find my exact footing. (1:33:19) Exactly. (1:33:19) I do know that in a weird way, borders are necessary in a of the people need to be (1:33:28) there.(1:33:29) But I also am totally about sponsorship. (1:33:33) So if you can sponsor and back somebody up, I would guess if corporations can do that. (1:33:40) They’re on the lam for all their stuff.(1:33:43) Maybe if you made it that a contingency that would discourage some from taking that risk. (1:33:48) But that way, it still wouldn’t prohibit them from allowing it. (1:33:52) You know what I mean? (1:33:52) Because it’s not like billing them.(1:33:54) It wouldn’t be charging them to do it. (1:33:55) It would just be loading them with more of the responsibility that they take on for an (1:34:01) extension of that person like of the company. (1:34:05) Yeah, right.(1:34:07) Well, let’s keep going. (1:34:08) It gets more specific into how this happened. (1:34:13) Ready to hit it? (1:34:14) Yep.(1:34:15) All right. (1:34:16) People haven’t really thought through this idea. (1:34:19) They have an intuitive sense of wow, we’re getting an incredible bargain.(1:34:22) We’re getting the best minds in the world. (1:34:24) What could possibly be going wrong? (1:34:26) The last thing I’m going to say is that I think we do a better job with our crazy heterogeneous (1:34:31) educational system raising irreverent scientists. (1:34:35) And I think the biggest discoveries, the ones that really move the needle are done by people (1:34:39) who are incredibly irreverent and very disagreeable.(1:34:43) And that’s what our system excels at. (1:34:45) If you get a Richard Feynman, he’s dangerous. (1:34:47) You can’t really, he’s like an outside cat.(1:34:48) You can’t bring him inside. (1:34:50) But the fact is what we’re getting is we’re getting client labor. (1:34:53) People who don’t really rock the boat, who are extremely regular, rather than people (1:34:59) who are confident, who know that their careers are.(1:35:06) I think it’s cutting off a little bit at the end there. (1:35:08) But anyway, I think, yeah, apologies. (1:35:11) It’s OK.(1:35:12) Yeah. (1:35:12) He wrote about this, too. (1:35:14) He’s got a whole paper about it.(1:35:16) So he’s been on this topic for a long time. (1:35:18) I think he put this out in 2018 or something. (1:35:22) But he talks about it’s not just the visa thing either.(1:35:24) They, the scientific employers, people in this tech industry, people in scientific other (1:35:32) fields, they got together with the government and said, we’re going to classify people this (1:35:38) way. (1:35:39) And so the people coming in on H-1Bs and any kind of visa, really, they have to fall into (1:35:44) a certain salary range or else they don’t qualify. (1:35:48) And those salaries are lower.(1:35:50) And they also qualify like in medical, especially. (1:35:55) They classify employees as trainees or students or postdoc employees, and they get to be paid (1:36:02) less. (1:36:03) So this was actually a conspiracy by the government with the industry.(1:36:10) And if this isn’t the story of everything wrong with every industry that’s messed up (1:36:15) and corrupted, then I don’t know what is. (1:36:18) But it’s the same thing. (1:36:20) It’s companies, corporations colluding with the government to lock people out of it.(1:36:25) And that keeps wages lower. (1:36:27) That makes them a lot more money. (1:36:29) That keeps competition out.(1:36:32) And that’s what we’re dealing with here. (1:36:35) Yeah. (1:36:36) I talked to a buddy today, actually.(1:36:38) Happy New Year, everybody, by the way. (1:36:40) We’re up to 89 people. (1:36:41) How about that? (1:36:42) Jump on chat.(1:36:43) Ask questions. (1:36:44) Please jump in. (1:36:45) Yeah.(1:36:46) But I talked to a buddy today, high up in one of the pharmaceutical industry companies, (1:36:51) one of the pharmaceutical companies. (1:36:53) And that’s what happened with Eric. (1:36:57) Eric Weinstein talked about that.(1:36:59) That was one of the early industries that got attacked, right? (1:37:01) Lab tech, all that stuff in the pharmaceutical. (1:37:03) So they would pay them really little bit of money, and they’d bring them in, and they’d (1:37:08) lower all the wages for everybody. (1:37:09) So you basically were training your replacements.(1:37:12) It is pretty nasty that way. (1:37:16) I totally see with getting the best talent. (1:37:19) I totally get that.(1:37:20) But shouldn’t we just be the beacon for talent to want to come here? (1:37:24) Like, okay, fine. (1:37:27) Then let them apply. (1:37:29) But I don’t understand anyone else needing to, other than someone bringing them in somehow.(1:37:34) And I think a sponsorship would be the only real solution in some way, because then you’re (1:37:39) really beholden to that person that you bring in. (1:37:41) Because they’re not your slave either. (1:37:43) You’re now beholden to how they act.(1:37:47) And I don’t know if you want to take that responsibility. (1:37:50) Yeah, I think you really do want to bring the best people in. (1:37:53) Because if you don’t, you lock them out of the country.(1:37:57) I mean, you’re going to get competition outside the country, right? (1:38:00) So rather than building up American companies, which you say you want to do if you’re America (1:38:05) first, conservative, whatever, you’re saying, we want the best in America. (1:38:10) So if you don’t hire the best in America, they’re going to go somewhere else. (1:38:13) They’re going to go to China.(1:38:14) They’re going to go to all these places that will hire foreign people. (1:38:19) And they will build something better eventually, right? (1:38:23) Right. (1:38:23) And to Jimmy’s point, though, Jimmy on his segment talked about something very interesting (1:38:26) I didn’t think about either, is a lot of the people hiring Indians and Asians are Asian (1:38:32) companies in America bringing in their own people.(1:38:38) So it’s an Indian company bringing in Indians. (1:38:41) So they’re insourcing. (1:38:43) Yep.(1:38:44) Yeah. (1:38:45) So you’re going to outsource, you’re going to insource. (1:38:48) There’s all the problems.(1:38:51) It’s crazy. (1:38:52) So, yeah, well, I mean, just to wrap this up, because I got to go soon. (1:38:58) But what it comes down to is really that the argument against hiring immigrants for high (1:39:04) school jobs is about protectionism.(1:39:06) And you think you’re protecting American workers by doing this, but you’re really not. (1:39:11) Just like tariffs, you know, it’s supposed to protect American industries and jobs. (1:39:14) But really, it hurts everyone.(1:39:16) Hurts the consumers. (1:39:17) Somebody’s paying for it here. (1:39:19) And then it, you know, it hurts business in the long run.(1:39:23) So I would argue that tariffs and probably the protectionist mindset within hiring is (1:39:30) going to be much worse long term, even if you get some short term benefit for Americans. (1:39:40) Yeah, I think any push on any influence, like natural market, can we try it? (1:39:46) Can we can we just give it like a little bit of a shot somehow? (1:39:51) You know what I mean? (1:39:52) Like, we try to push and pull these things. (1:39:55) These regulations that protect us, to your point, look what it did.(1:39:58) It didn’t help. (1:39:59) It’s not to help. (1:40:00) Yeah, it’s only to hurt.(1:40:02) Like, and I use East Palestine as a great example, right? (1:40:06) The train brake system was from like the 1800s. (1:40:09) Where was the regulation on that? (1:40:12) That’s not like a safety regulation. (1:40:13) You might, you know what I mean? (1:40:14) Like the system or whatever was from like an antiquated system.(1:40:17) Why didn’t they regulate newer system for actual physically slowing down the train or (1:40:22) making it safe? (1:40:23) No, they make regulations to keep other trained people from trying to, you know, get in on (1:40:29) the action because the more government is crony capitalism, guys, this people like when I when (1:40:35) we talk government, we were talking about corporations have captured this government. (1:40:41) Like it’s one thing for the government to be like separate entity and to be completely (1:40:47) incompetent on its own, but it’s actually being manipulated by other people who wanted to (1:40:53) go in certain directions. (1:40:55) That’s even worse.(1:40:56) Like I can handle stupidity and incompetence, but I don’t like manipulation, direction, (1:41:02) pushing force, anything like that. (1:41:05) And that’s what’s happening. (1:41:06) The government has been captured by the corporations.(1:41:10) Fang, that’s all you need to know, right? (1:41:13) So I know you need to go. (1:41:15) Do you have any final thoughts, my friend? (1:41:17) I think you’re right, man. (1:41:19) It’s an illusion of a free market.(1:41:21) That’s what really messes things up. (1:41:22) Corporations working with the government to get these things done, blocking people out, (1:41:27) keeping salaries depressed. (1:41:31) And, yeah, like Eric said, you’re not going to get rich as an engineer in America because (1:41:36) you know, you’re competing with these people who will take less money and fine if they (1:41:41) can do the job that you could do for less money, someone should be able to hire them.(1:41:46) But then maybe you need to look up. (1:41:47) You need to look higher. (1:41:48) You need to do something more fit to your skill set.(1:41:51) If you’re being underpaid for your skills, then go get something else. (1:41:55) Go do something else. (1:41:56) Make your own business.(1:41:58) Love it. (1:41:59) And what’s funny to me, though, the learn to code thing cracks me up because like the (1:42:05) first job that got taken by AI coding, like it’s like the first thing you got taken. (1:42:11) So I kind of found that very interesting, like to learn to code bros.(1:42:14) But like, look, you and I think are that it’s not a bootstrap thing. (1:42:18) It’s you have the power in you. (1:42:21) Like we believe we actually believe in you as a human being that you have the ability (1:42:27) to grab yourself and to try better.(1:42:30) You and I are sitting here on a Thursday night, quarter to quarter to seven hour time, quarter (1:42:36) to what? (1:42:36) Ten quarter. (1:42:37) Yeah, a quarter to nine, nine or four. (1:42:40) Yeah.(1:42:40) Quarter to ten, seven, quarter, nine or two hours. (1:42:43) I do the math. (1:42:44) Yeah.(1:42:44) Two hours. (1:42:45) Well, remember, it’s three in the fall and we switch. (1:42:47) And then because I got East Coast people, it’s all guys got to get off daylight savings (1:42:50) time.(1:42:51) If you’re not in Arizona, go talk to your people over there. (1:42:55) What are you doing? (1:42:55) I moved to Arizona. (1:42:57) Oh, wait, don’t do that.(1:42:59) Jason hates. (1:42:59) No, we’re full. (1:43:01) I get off daylight savings.(1:43:03) It makes it even though we don’t have it. (1:43:05) We still have to deal with you fools who change every six months. (1:43:08) But I like the three hours.(1:43:10) I got to admit, because like sporting events. (1:43:13) It’s an extra hour, like it’s not like midnight one to back east. (1:43:17) We used to be able to like up to one, two in the morning on football games, Monday night, (1:43:20) and then up at five a.m. (1:43:21) And, you know, to watch for work.(1:43:23) It was rough. (1:43:24) It got rough at times. (1:43:25) I would never watch.(1:43:27) I don’t watch anymore anyway. (1:43:29) Well, happy new year to you, sir. (1:43:33) Yeah.(1:43:33) If you guys have any questions, let us know. (1:43:35) I’m sure we missed something, but I think we covered the main points we wanted to hit here. (1:43:41) I think we did.(1:43:43) This was fun, man. (1:43:44) I had a great day. (1:43:45) Your Trump was, I loved it.(1:43:46) I can’t wait to clip it. (1:43:48) We’re going to be putting that out. (1:43:49) It’s so great.(1:43:50) So great. (1:43:51) So great. (1:43:52) The best.(1:43:53) The greatest impression. (1:43:54) Everybody’s saying it. (1:43:57) You just shut your mouth, Donald.(1:43:59) Just because you could be me at one of those election things. (1:44:04) Just because I could not be the Democratic nominee. (1:44:07) That is atrocious kind of behavior that you would have to be like that.(1:44:13) It’s still, I’m working on it. (1:44:14) I’m sorry, Bobby, that you couldn’t win the presidency, but I’ll let you in. (1:44:18) It’s your loser.(1:44:19) You can make America healthy again. (1:44:21) I’ll give you that much. (1:44:23) Oh, you nailed it.(1:44:26) Oh, you nailed it. (1:44:27) That was it right at the end. (1:44:28) Oh, man.(1:44:29) On that. (1:44:30) Happy New Year, everybody. (1:44:31) Thank you for joining us.(1:44:32) Happy New Year, guys. (1:44:33) Thanks for tuning in. (1:44:35) We got to 99.(1:44:35) We got to 99. (1:44:36) I was trying to see if we could get to triple digits, but we did. (1:44:38) We got to 99.(1:44:38) Do one more. (1:44:39) Somebody come in here now. (1:44:40) I know.(1:44:41) I know you can’t hear me. (1:44:42) Somebody get in here. (1:44:43) Ah, whatever.(1:44:44) But thank you, everyone. (1:44:45) We’re going to be doing a lot more of these next Thursday. (1:44:48) We have something kind of planned, some kind of panel thing.(1:44:50) I think it’s on mine. (1:44:52) I’ll send it out, but we’ll figure it out. (1:44:54) I’ve got a couple things.(1:44:56) I got a Saturday and a Sunday. (1:44:57) What’s that? (1:44:58) Bringing in a couple more people. (1:45:00) A couple more people we’re going to bring in.(1:45:02) We’re going to have fun with it. (1:45:03) We hit 100. (1:45:04) Yes, 101.(1:45:06) Everybody, thank you so much for joining us. (1:45:09) I’ve never hit triple digits, my friend. (1:45:11) So thank you for doing that for me.(1:45:14) First for me. (1:45:16) Sir, last statement. (1:45:18) Close it out for Consciously Unmasked.(1:45:22) Thanks, everybody, for watching Consciously Unmasked. (1:45:25) It may not look like much now, but it’s about to be the best show you’ve ever seen. (1:45:31) People will be talking about it from here and there, east and west, even in China.(1:45:37) The Chinese, they give us a virus, but they’ll still watch our podcasts. (1:45:41) Thanks, everybody, and have a good night. (1:45:48) Bye, everybody.(1:45:51) Take care. (1:45:51) That was amazing, man. (1:45:52) Take care, everybody.