A conversation about the “The Century of the Self, Part 1” (BBC documentary)

Recorded 9/12/2020 – Chris and Mark discuss the BBC documentary, The Century of the Self – Part 1: “Happiness Machines”, available on YouTube (link below).
https://youtu.be/DnPmg0R1M04
Intro Music: “Blue Scorpion” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/
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Transcript:

(0:07) Knocked (0:09) Conscious (0:14) Knocked Conscious (0:20) Hello, have you totally lost it? I believe I never have harshly lost it. I never are you trying to find it (0:26) I’m looking where are you fangies? I don’t know supposed to look for him. They’re tight and I (0:33) Where are you looking for it? I don’t know under the mattress under the duvet cover the duvet (0:39) The duvet, I don’t have one of those (0:41) So I apparently need to find that also Meg Z is like can we get a duvet and I’m like first of all (0:46) What is a duvet? (0:48) Secondly, no (0:50) Yeah, just Amazon.No Meg Z and it has that stuff it once again (0:55) It goes it harkens back to Samuel Jackson Jackson, you know in Pulp Fiction (1:00) I was gonna say my girlfriend wants a duvet, which means pretty much that I want a duvet (1:08) Oh (1:08) Man that’s funny. I like that. We start a serious one with jokes.Cheers, bro (1:13) Sir, clink our soda cans together because I know it’s Modelo, bro. Oh, it is Madero. Oh (1:22) That is delicious (1:24) So welcome to Knocked Conscious, sir.When when he knows I hope that beginning part was fun (1:29) Maybe we’ll incorporate that next podcast. I will be asking the status of said duvet cover (1:36) Well, that’s at least a week away from this conversation. Oh now I’m now it’s like three weeks away (1:42) Oh, we’re gonna we’re not going dark, but we just have a couple of days times off.I have a movie (1:48) poquito vacacion (1:51) Importante a small vacation sir. Oh, okay plus but we’ll get together (1:55) We’ll still have more of these for people. So so Knocked Conscious boys and girls ladies and gentlemen boys and germs (2:03) All the people’s (2:04) What are we talking about bro today? We’re talking about the (2:08) Start of the term public relations.Okay, or also known as the century of self (2:14) Yes, so there was a BBC documentary titled the century or century of the self (2:20) I think it’s I believe you are correct for the first time a civic term. I’m usually wrong (2:24) I’ve listened back to our conversations and been like wrong wrong wrong (2:29) Do we need I want to play the do we need a wrong but it’s probably the dive or is it that this it’s a (2:34) It’s probably the dive (2:36) But (2:38) Yeah, I just I think we just need one of this wrong. No (2:41) so (2:42) You went two weeks one two weeks attention mister.Oh (2:46) My gosh, um, does Barry Manilow know that you’re reading his wardrobe? Yes. Okay, as long as we know that Oh Mandy (2:52) So century of the self is a BBC documentary. It’s four parts.It’s like an hour per part (2:58) Yes, but it’s very good. It is phenomenal. It speaks about what’s it talk about? How’s it? How’s it kind of get into? (3:05) It’s released in 2002.So it’s not HD (3:08) It is a little older and that’s I don’t mind it because I thought the information was very interesting (3:12) And it and it was historical. So it wasn’t yes like current events (3:17) No, not at all (3:18) But I like the fact that it it talked about a gentleman that I had never heard of before (3:22) So it was completely new information and I like that because it wasn’t something (3:27) Oh, I kind of know about this guy, but I want to learn more about him. It was nothing like that at all (3:32) I had no idea about this dude or about (3:36) Anything about him or what he did or what he practiced or about the term public relations or where it came from? (3:42) I never gave a crap about that before ever, but it was incredibly interesting.I thought and (3:48) Who is that that uh, that’s what’s interesting to me’s (3:52) But Edward Bernays doesn’t even ring a bell to me. I’ve correct (3:55) I don’t know that name either nor did I but he’s related to someone that he might know the nephew of Sigmund Freud (4:02) It’s a pretty big name. Yes (4:05) But Edward Bernays was born in America.He’s an American, but obviously Freud was not so (4:12) Let’s do a Austrian (4:14) Austrian Jace from Viennese. Yes from Vienna, correct. It’s Viennese.I think some I got (4:22) Yeah, so Sigmund Freud’s nephew so you’re like Edward Bernays whoever the heck this guy is (4:27) But then you’re like, oh it’s Sigmund Freud (4:29) Oh, he was in a psychoanalysis, you know, he invented psychoanalysis and all these other terms, but this Bernays guy (4:36) Basically developed the American consumption culture as we know it today (4:41) Yeah, he founded he basically took the term propaganda which had a negative (4:48) Connotation because of the Germans because of World War one and he changed the term and (4:54) Then he took that term and use it to help (4:58) American companies (5:00) Market their products is the is the basic term the basic readers digest version of what happened (5:07) It’s fascinating. Yeah, and the change to public relations. Yes, just the just making the name (5:14) It’s kind of reminds me of how PTSD has evolved from you know, shell shock to (5:19) You know as battle fatigue then shell shock then, you know, it’s just gotten more.Yeah, or shell shock battle fatigue, you know (5:26) Whatever. Absolutely. It’s crazy.I agree. You just change the name and it’s the same. It’s the same wolf in a different skin, right? (5:35) Because it is propaganda in its way (5:37) Yeah, the way I the way (5:39) my interpretation of (5:42) The of it was that he manipulated the masses and you can you could use the word (5:47) Propaganda or you can use the word you can use any word to describe that.That was my interpretation of what yeah (5:54) In in a way. Yes (5:56) Yes, yeah (5:57) And well because we’re the the plan is that we’re gonna do four of these because there’s four parts that are an hour long (6:03) And we’re gonna just dissect each one of them, right? That’s we’re gonna talk (6:06) I believe that is the plan cool because later in it obviously we’ve watched we’ve all watched all of them at some point (6:11) But there’s some really interesting stuff that fills these gaps as we as we do the yeah, they talk about (6:17) Sigmund Freud’s daughter (6:19) Episode down the road and how things progress because this takes starts to take place in the 1920s (6:24) And then how things progress in the 50s after World War two and they and how the American government (6:31) All the way into the 80s. Yes (6:33) Politics yes in the 1980 election with Reagan Clinton actually in the 90s absolutely (6:37) So it does go up until Clinton’s re-election, which is interesting.Yeah, it does mean a pretty (6:44) Like large gap of things. So let’s get let’s dig into this. How we want to start (6:49) I would (6:52) Figure we I would still do you want to look at your list and you want to start or do you want me to go? (6:56) It’s what I got (6:57) I love with what you got because what you got is so much better than mine (7:00) Stuff that’ll support and or I don’t know your research looks pretty thorough there man.I’m pretty impressed (7:07) I type words just words words. I can spell Bob many times in a row that looks more than does 500 words (7:15) It’s pretty impressive man (7:17) 499 of them are (7:18) and ones (7:22) The original what I wrote down first was that in (7:24) 1916 when America was joining (7:28) World War two. I’m sorry World War one that the American government started what they called a public information office and (7:38) Edward Bernays was asked to join that so I found it interesting that (7:43) They already wanted to I don’t want it.They didn’t use this term, but my perception was (7:50) They wanted to control information (7:52) Yeah, they needed us to (7:57) Feel (7:58) Like tap into that. I mean that was really the core of it, right? (8:02) The what basically Bernays took a lot of Freud’s thoughts about the human mind (8:08) Yes, and use them to at least manipulate us (8:13) Yes, steer us in a certain direction because we were a very rational very like, you know practical society (8:21) Up until this point. Yes, and we went from this, you know, I why do I need it? (8:27) Why do I need a new car because the other one blew up not because oh (8:32) It’s got a little dust on it (8:33) And I’d love us something shiny and new because my car is four years old and I really want a new one, right? (8:39) No, well, it works fine.It only has 35,000 miles on it. Why do you need a new car? (8:44) Yeah, so stupid they tapped in and that’s the thing Freud was Freud was kind of a nihilist (8:49) He believed that man, you know, man (8:53) Always wanted to do evil and the conscious mind kept us from doing that (8:57) Correct Emily. Correct.That’s his viewpoint. A lot of people felt the opposite of that. Correct, but he felt humanity was pretty evil and (9:05) He stated that before World War one.Yes, then world war one starts and it’s and then it was horrific, right? (9:12) And it was like a blueprint of what he said, correct how bad humanity could be it’s terrifying gas (9:17) Yes, it was terrifying how (9:20) accurate his description of the human being (9:25) Was that right after he stated it all it was like he predicted this was gonna happen (9:31) What’s interesting about that is a lot of people predicted a war in Europe (9:37) The first one the first one and even obviously out of the first one because of the sanctions on Germany (9:43) Yeah, we didn’t know that we get another guy (9:46) We didn’t know we get a second one to be honest probably but right the first one definitely had tensions and it wasn’t all burned (9:51) off after World War one (9:53) obviously because yeah fueled world war pissed but (9:57) You know, we talked about it like it wasn’t the shooting of Franz Ferdinand. Let’s be honest (10:02) That was just the reason for the riot (10:04) It wasn’t the it wasn’t it was the it was the spark (10:10) It was the excuse for the riot not the reason for the riot if that makes so you’re saying there was tensions in Europe prior (10:17) Yes, all the way up to this and then they’re like well, this is a great way to get into this fucking war (10:23) Is by using this? (10:25) Assassination isn’t I guess I didn’t know that or if I did I forgot it from high school. Well, I don’t three (10:30) I don’t know if it’s a known thing, but it’s the assassination that sparked the war (10:34) I knew that part right but I’m it’s my assumption that it all that event was was just a (10:40) Excuse to start it something that had been brewing for a long time.So they were gonna go to war (10:46) Anyway, it’s tension seen that way from what I’ve been told in sharing stories with you know (10:52) With other people and historians or whatnot, okay, you know once again, these are theories, right? (10:58) These aren’t well, I’m not a hundred percent. We’re not historians, right? (11:01) I’m not I’m not historian tax them (11:03) But I do know that Europe was very their tensions were running high throughout the entire (11:08) Land at that point (11:11) Through the continent basically throughout the entire economy between all of those countries. Okay, because a lot of change is coming.So (11:18) Okay. Anyway, but that’s just a small aside (11:21) but public any tangent (11:24) It was in line with I liked it though. I liked it in it a mini tangent (11:31) So public information office, yes, sir.What about that? What did they do? How did what they I don’t know (11:38) I think they just manipulate us, right? They got us into feeling about the war instead of like just (11:44) Practically, I’m assuming that I mean a lot like World War two. There was probably war bonds (11:50) There was probably drives to support the troops. There was I I would guess that all happened.I don’t know that for sure (11:58) Again, I’m not a historian, but wouldn’t that make sense that that’s what happened (12:01) Yeah (12:02) And it would just be that they were controlling the information we were getting as a people because we obviously (12:07) Don’t have we didn’t have Twitter back then. So stop it a hundred years ago. Hey, what’s going on over there? Hello Twitter world (12:16) Hola Twitter world did and I’m imagining they probably had good.I Twitter. Well, I didn’t have a draft, right? (12:22) So they tried to get guys to enlist wonder. Yeah, and yeah, I guess so (12:27) But a lot of guys went to fight a lot of guys died.I googled I beer googled how many guys died which (12:34) It’s a lot. It’s terrible (12:37) I don’t know if I want to know that number. It’s not nearly as much as well (12:41) Yeah, World War two, but it’s double Vietnam.Let’s put it that way. Wow, it’s bad in two years, right? (12:46) And that’s this is bad. That’s just Americans.This is this is (12:50) 1918 from 1916 to 1918 (12:53) double the Americans from Vietnam and that Vietnam was like 10 years, correct and (12:59) This is like older technology. Yeah, it’s not we don’t even have WMDs yet. We don’t even have the bomb yet (13:05) No, we don’t have not even close.No, we don’t have anything close to that. We’ve got (13:10) Gas, we’ve got machine guns. We’ve got bombs (13:13) Well tanks made their introduction to world tanks tanks did we still like the airplane was still a by wing? (13:19) Yeah, and but we had dirigibles, right? So World War one was somewhat primitive (13:23) Yeah, primitive and pretty killed a lot of motherfuckers.It was very killed (13:28) Warfare. Yeah, it was pretty nasty. So anyway, so this guy starts with the US government gets contracted and (13:35) Gets the United States kind of on the side of getting into the war and doing all that stuff (13:41) Once the once they’re in the war.Yes, but he can he can he uses his uncle’s (13:48) Ideas on with of psychoanalysis to start to he understands that I like to use the word the mob (13:56) But he understands that he can use these ideas (14:01) to (14:03) Steer or manipulate or whatever verb you want to use a large group of people (14:07) Yeah, not one or two, but thousands, right? That’s the point of this and to that point (14:12) He didn’t even concern himself with a single individual. They even know about no said a he only saw people as a group (14:18) Correct because he could control a group (14:20) He can individual people are irrational or humanities irrational as a whole (14:25) But as a group you can you can use that irrationality and get a single focus out of it (14:31) It’s it was brilliant. That’s the guy disturbing.It’s scary. It’s scary when it’s used for evil (14:39) Like advertisements and everything else and getting you into wars (14:44) It’d be great but see that that’s the problem with it, right? (14:47) It’s like oh, it’s such a great idea if it were used for good. Well who defines what good is? (14:52) What my good might be? Yeah, I might not be totally opposite.So it’s very subjective (14:56) So that’s a really scary fucking thought but just that he (15:02) he called he saw us as (15:05) groups of irrational beings (15:07) That’s how I see us. I see us as chaotic. I don’t know how you see us, but well every human can be irrational (15:14) Correct.We all do a rational things. We all get upset when somebody okay, that’s not true (15:22) Most some people get upset when somebody cuts us off (15:25) We all have cut somebody else off that and that I mean stuff like that does happen (15:29) How we react to it when that happens is the issue (15:32) Yeah, well one plus one is not always equal to you know in our non irrational mind or non rational minds or irrational minds (15:39) Uh, I think I I’m not terrible at math (15:43) No, I’m saying in our irrational minds one plus one does not always okay now I got you (15:49) So once again, I’m not communicating effectively, you know, it’s not rational (15:53) My text football referee wearing a mask. That’s not rational.My texts are not rational (16:01) But to your point I love the (16:08) Looking at like we are irrational beings (16:12) More than we are not like we love to think that we’re these thinking conscious beings (16:18) But when it comes down to brass tacks (16:20) Hello guys, we ran out of toilet paper (16:24) for like a few days (16:26) You know also is not rational toilet paper (16:32) People in California. Oh boy. Is this gonna become a bitch fest? (16:36) This is we’re gonna end this right now the bitch fest ends now.Okay with your bitch fest. I see how this works (16:43) Okay, then I won’t tell you I’m just no, please tell me (16:48) Gender reveal party (16:51) Started a (16:52) 7,000 acre forest fire (16:58) What? (16:59) Did I stutter? (17:01) No, I just need you to tell me that again a gender reveal (17:06) Party like a party a party in which one’s gender is (17:12) revealed the (17:13) pregnant couple I (17:16) Hope it’s just a woman that’s pregnant. But I I don’t know bro (17:21) Pregnant I’m assuming the young lady or (17:24) What a woman was price.I assume a woman was pregnant. I don’t know the details of the call biological one for sure (17:31) Assigned at birth. I don’t know dude.Okay, there was a gender reveal party that started a (17:36) 7,000 acre (17:38) Forest fire hashtag rationality, bro (17:42) We’re gonna do hashtags of everything with bro on the back. Okay, we’re gonna do them all we got microbes bro (17:47) Hashtag rationality, bro (17:50) Forest fires bro gender reveal parties, bro (17:55) So yes, bro (17:57) This is the questions on everyone’s mind though. What’s that? (18:01) Was it a boy or girl? I have no idea (18:06) That’s such a jizzle Nick joke (18:08) Thank you.Very true. That’s absolutely true at Anthony jizzle Nick, dude (18:13) That dude is so funny that guy’s my spirit animal (18:17) Not a lion or a cactus. It’s Anthony just the one he’s like woman diagnosed with multiple sclerosis is literally running for her life (18:25) completing (18:27) 366 marathons in a year (18:28) The key to her survival doctors say was skipping Boston.I mean how fucking I didn’t hear that one. That’s a hood. It’s good, man (18:37) That’s a good (18:39) Some lines are just meant not meant to be crossed (18:43) Most are like the finish line.Oh (18:46) Boy, sorry, look if we can’t laugh people once again disclaimer hashtag disclaimer, bro (18:53) Are we gonna get to go too far with these hashtag bros? (18:56) No, cuz we’re just that’s we’re gonna just jump around like we’re really gonna make these (19:00) I mean, I think the what we’re gonna one or two that are gonna stick but we’re still we’re still the the (19:05) Chimp throwing shit against the wall to see what does stick. We’re still (19:10) Do you owe me $5? No, cuz that no cuz I’m not like being descriptive about it (19:14) Just like more of a term right? Don’t we say throw shit against wall. See what sticks.It’s like a term (19:18) It’s not it’s not really a poop thing. Okay, wrap it up (19:23) but (19:24) Yeah, so disclaimer. We just want to we’re making jokes guys.We’re just having fun totes. So totes jokes back to (19:32) the century of the self reel it in (19:38) So after the war what happened so (19:40) Mr. Bernays (19:42) the young nephew who’s 30 of (19:46) Dr. Sigmund Freud is asked by the president to go with him to the Paris (19:52) treaty signing (19:56) He sees the president (19:59) Wilson well said (20:02) being welcomed into this city of Paris a (20:08) Hero’s welcome. He’s the savior of the world.That’s the perception of of (20:14) Edward Bernays that he sees the president being welcomed by all these people he sees what’s going on (20:21) And he thinks to himself if if a mob can be controlled in wartime (20:30) Can it be controlled in peacetime? (20:33) And that way he was interviewed several times toward the end of his life and that’s what that’s where he said (20:38) Can I do this? Is it possible? (20:41) He thinks it is why why isn’t it? (20:44) White bulb moment. Yeah, absolutely like oh (20:47) Like that’s how it that’s how societies advance. That’s ideas get furthered, right? (20:51) Just one person asking a question the simplest question if I can make if this is how it is in peacetime and wartime (20:59) how is it how could I make it work in peacetime or could I make it work and (21:02) Then he moves forward with that and he starts testing it doesn’t he yeah (21:07) he gets back to the u.s. After that in 1918 and he in New York City and he (21:15) founds starts an (21:17) Organization called the Council on public relations (21:20) So he said obviously I can’t use the term propaganda as I stated a few moments ago (21:25) So he relabels it renames it public relations.That’s where the term started. That’s where the term came from (21:31) So that same wolf different clothing. Yeah, it’s just it’s the same thing (21:37) That’s doing the same job.It’s just in a different label. Yeah, it’s kind of like let’s be honest (21:43) The term Nazi is not exactly something you can walk around (21:45) Stating anything any affiliation with because the term itself is bad could be bad (21:50) Propaganda is the same had that same connotation propaganda was always seen in a negative (21:55) Light. Yeah.All right (22:00) So this is now the 20s, right? (22:02) About 1920 correct and then what was this when then when the campaign (22:08) For the smoking happened. That is correct, sir. All right, so what happened after that the (22:14) Or what happened next obviously one of the main (22:19) Tobacco company (22:21) executives comes to Edward Bernays and says (22:27) Half of my market doesn’t smoke cigarettes (22:31) Can you help me? (22:33) And then what half was that he says he mr. Bernays says what do you mean he goes women don’t smoke cigarettes (22:39) how do I get them to smoke and (22:42) Edward Bernays says well, let me (22:46) Ask some of my psychoanalysis friends (22:51) And let me work on it.You and let me let me let me think about it, but it’s gonna cost you (22:55) He didn’t disclose how much it was and he was asked. Why didn’t you ask your uncle? (23:02) Dr. Freud. Well, he was in Vienna.So he couldn’t so he asked a psychoanalysis an analyst in the u.s (23:10) and he was advised that (23:13) the cigarette was a sign of (23:15) Male sexuality or male power right like the phallus you basically in a way (23:21) They didn’t say it directly like that, but that’s how we always talk about phallic symbols and things like that (23:25) You know cigar smoking and you would you know? Yeah, that’s basically what this doctor said (23:31) So I which I found comical and I actually started laughing at the screen when I heard that basically men like penises (23:40) Okay, so, okay great, so I peen I (23:45) Is that like Prius, I’m but they’re still good pre offices. I think it’s penises. I think it’s yes (23:52) Let’s not talk about it.Oh Twitter world. Is it peen? I’ll penis. Let’s call them wieners (23:57) Frank for wieners got banged so ill-regardless (24:01) this this doctor says (24:04) if you want to get (24:06) Women to smoke you have to my interpretation was reverse the way women look at it (24:12) Make the women feel empowered that wasn’t the word they used but that’s how I (24:17) Interpreted in today’s language of a hundred years later.Yeah, they definitely implied that yeah, it was like (24:23) You don’t let this be a symbol of oppression for women let this be a symbol of empowerment exactly, right? (24:30) Exactly, right like own it exactly and how it makes how do you make a woman feel? (24:37) Just as powerful as a man, so they will start smoking as well. How do you do that? (24:42) And it was the term it’s what they call them that are just like (24:46) Because remember this is 1920 now 20 ish, right prohibition just started (24:53) Smoking obviously they want to get people to smoke more. They’re gonna get women to smoke (24:57) Well, the tobacco industry wants to make money it is it is an industry (25:01) It is a it is a replacement for sit for alcohol if you can’t get alcohol at least you have some kind of drug (25:06) Well, they want to make money right? They want to sell tobacco and they want it’s a capitalist society.They want to make money, right? (25:12) Yeah, so it’s very basic (25:13) They want to sell more their product and the mindset of the hue of the American at that point was still this (25:19) very patriotic (25:21) You know what we were right like it’s the whole reason why we went to World War two is to keep (25:25) Democracy right to keep freedom and on so what was what was the term he came up with? What was the so mr. Bernays? (25:32) he (25:35) he in my opinion the dude was damn diabolical, so (25:41) Yeah, and it’s funny cuz I don’t he didn’t look ruthless. He just looked very practically. He reminds me of some eugenic (25:48) Absolutely (25:48) Think about that.He’s like, yeah, it’s just the right thing to do like, yeah, I’m gonna make them (25:54) Yeah, I’ll convince him to think this way. They’ll still think it’s freedom and it’s democracy, but I believe in the whole system (25:59) I believe in democracy and and how you know and all that but yeah, it’ll still be done my way (26:05) Cuz he could he could get you to choose he could get you to decide it was crazy. Anyway, so mr (26:12) So back to the cigarettes, mr (26:15) Bernays (26:15) Tips off some local reporters (26:19) That in an upcoming big parade (26:22) Some young debutants some young popular young women were gonna be in this parade and they were gonna do something outlandish (26:33) He puts an ad in the paper.Hey, this is this this is gonna happen. So all these reporters turn out and (26:39) all these young ladies (26:42) Have packs of cigarettes (26:45) Strapped to their thighs and they they don’t pull them out right away (26:50) But after part of the parade they pull out the cigarettes and they start smoking and he calls the cigarettes (26:57) torches of freedom (27:00) Brilliant so he basically (27:06) architected this (27:08) staged it (27:12) Incident what do you want to call that? Yeah, and what do you know the exact year? (27:17) Was it 20-something it’s okay if we don’t have it (27:20) The reason I’m asking is 1920 was the right to for women to vote, right? (27:24) I can look that up too if you want (27:26) So this is coming out of a very strong point of women’s empowerment or absolutely recognition for women (27:32) He just he took advantage of that torches of freedom man. What a great term (27:37) Cuz you’re coming out of this and you’re like, yeah, I’m free and I’m you know torta cuz torches have power in them (27:44) Torches of freedom Easter Sunday Parade 1929.Okay, there it is (27:49) 29 so 10 years after I was way off in the years. Well, it was the 20s (27:55) Probably coming out of the Prohibition (27:58) But in fact there was a bill in the District of Columbia in 1921 women were not allowed to smoke (28:07) That’s how about that? That’s Wow (28:10) It seems really non-capitalistic of people (28:14) And sexist well, yeah, but I’m saying how how the hell did (28:19) Sexism outweigh capitalism at that moment. Like if I were a businessman, I would be like if I were Philip fucking Morris (28:25) I’d be like, um, no, how about they get smoke make them smoke twice as much judge.They live longer (28:32) You know what I mean, I wouldn’t be making laws against it the women’s right to vote was 1919 1919 (28:37) Okay, so that’s where I was so 1919. Yeah for the 1920 election (28:42) What I’m that would make sense that would I hope that mean I hope the numbers work out I think they do (28:47) So I believe that’s torches of freedom and and it’s isn’t it ironic today. Did the pack cost a buck? Oh five (28:56) Probably not they probably cost Oh five (29:00) You want me to look that up? No, it’s ironic.We don’t have time for that. We got tons of time. It’s true (29:06) but it’s ironic that (29:09) Torches of freedom and the Statue of Liberty, you know, she’s got a torch.Yeah, and she symbolizes freedom (29:15) So that it’s just it’s it’s diabolically genius (29:19) It’s stuck in your head because everybody come to Ellis Island back in 1920s and whatnot, right? It was like Ellis Island was (29:27) America like yeah, like that’s where people came to America from every country everywhere. It’s fucking beautiful (29:33) So that there’s that emotional connection to oh (29:36) Well, yeah, you support freedom, oh, well, then you should smoke right it reminds me a little bit of today’s world, doesn’t it? (29:44) We in which regard if you don’t explicitly say that you’re for a cause (29:49) Then you’re against somehow you’re absolutely against which is stupid as which is the most backwards (29:55) bullshit back ass (29:58) Stupid fucking thing ever (30:00) Just because I’m not tattooed with a certain slogan or phrase (30:06) That I’m against a cause for people being better like that is where that’s just a ridiculous (30:14) That’s a ridiculous quarrel. You know what? I’ve I’ve discovered in the past month (30:18) What mini tangent checkmark that if people state their opinion to me? (30:24) Regardless of what it is and I say nothing (30:27) They assume I agree with them (30:30) but I find it’s just easier and (30:33) A less waste of energy and emotion just to shut the hell up.I think that’s the best approach because (30:41) Regardless of whether we agree or not the person making the claim (30:46) It has their right to express that abstinent. I totally agree with that and I think that’s what you’re taking it from (30:51) You’re like, yeah, tell me what you want. Just cuz I but just cuz I don’t I don’t (30:56) Disagree with you doesn’t mean I agree with you.I choose not to respond. Yeah, and you thank you for sharing your time (31:01) Yeah, that’s cool. And you okay, you think that everyone with purple skin needs green hair.Cool. That’s what you think (31:08) I also agree with that by the way, that’s great. That’s my libertarian (31:11) But I’m glad that when senator checkmark wins in (31:15) 2027 that’s what his platform skin green motherfucking hair (31:20) purple skin (31:22) Is a vote for purple people with green hair purple people either swiss green.Yes, please (31:28) But so but no a lot of people they say they give me their opinion (31:33) Yes, and then I don’t say anything right and they most people don’t ask what I think and that’s totally fine (31:39) I don’t that’s not my point. My point is it’s cool. I don’t mind listening to anything.You have to say cool (31:45) but I don’t feel it’s worth my time or effort to (31:50) Rebuttal that I don’t agree with you, right? Because I don’t want to get into it (31:55) I don’t I just don’t there is the other side though. Yeah. Well, that’s the whole point is I (32:00) We’re allowed to feel the way we feel about things guys, and we’re allowed to share them.Absolutely. So boom, that’s cool (32:05) I’m totally cool or not share them or not (32:08) It’s look it’s choice, but you know, that’s what with the freedom of expression, you know (32:13) that’s that’s kind of the price you pay is you probably hear more than you want to but (32:17) I’d rather have too much than not enough and what’s massively ironic that (32:22) My noth nothing in the Alanis Morissette song nothing at all that my friends that listen to this we’re gonna go (32:28) Dude, you actually shut the hell up and didn’t say anything to someone. They’d be like get out of here (32:34) Yeah, because you’re not comfortable with those fucking jack nuts who come up to you just offer opinions jack nuts (32:38) I don’t even know what a jack nut is.It’s a great term hashtag jack nuts, bro. Jack nuts, bro (32:46) So to that to the head end (32:48) I was afraid bro. We just went tangent City didn’t we? Well, no, you can say whatever the fuck you want (32:55) Yeah, totally, but there is that other side if you don’t actually come in (32:59) screaming the same (33:02) Vmit that they are that you’re against them.Also people make that assumption. So you can’t fucking win. Yes.It’s like I (33:10) Like I mentioned I made a post on Facebook (33:13) Changing my mind about something but changing my mind was not enough (33:16) It was so wrong of me to have the initial opinion in the first place (33:23) like okay, I (33:26) Just don’t understand that but look do people dumb sometimes we’re all dumb. That’s what Bernays knew people were stupid (33:33) I mean, yeah, and his daughter said it of people actually. Yeah, his daughter was interviewed and his daughter said that (33:40) He thought everyone was stupid and he felt that people were really really (33:46) Stupid boom and he used that she said he used that word a lot to refer to people (33:52) Including her and her siblings.So obviously she was emotionally damaged and that’s horrible (33:59) and (34:00) He he wasn’t it appears. He wasn’t a nice person (34:03) What’s really interesting is but good and evil good and bad are very different bad are very challenging terms (34:09) Because in his mind and in many minds (34:13) he his connection to democracy and capitalism his connection of the two is (34:19) What makes America America? (34:22) Without that we are no longer America (34:25) It is different. So he had to (34:30) Manipulate people to think in (34:33) Those terms that he wanted you to to get the control he got to keep America the way it was (34:38) Correct, but by doing so we’re not free motherfuckers.We are just slaves of the system to you know (34:45) in a way you are correct and (34:48) That’s what’s really scary about that (34:50) And what I love about century self and we’re gonna get into the other parts is how it does change over the years like yes (34:56) You know, we’ll get in that but but this Bernays guy was just a fucking genius (35:01) Sadly, yes (35:03) But was it was it good? I mean without without him (35:07) America doesn’t become what it does (35:10) it doesn’t become a superpower manufacturing superpower a global (35:16) Beacon for everyone to come to for well for 50 or 100 years for science and math (35:22) Yeah, but like Woodrow Wilson started the League of Nations and democracy around the world. So he already was (35:28) He wanted America to be that beacon without the public relations industry that Edward Bernays was building (35:36) Anyway, but it was already started in the 20s League of Nations was until I was 1918 (35:42) No, Oh League of Nations with Wilson (35:43) Okay, was the was the right starting was the foundation for the United Nations, correct? (35:48) But didn’t that dissolve then that dissolve at some point? Yeah, it turned in the United Nations. It became the United Nations (35:55) Started America being that beacon of hope in the the every country needs to be democrat democracy, right? (36:02) You know, that’s what that was the foundation of everything that we’re trying to do now (36:06) But we had to show the growth we had to show the yes (36:10) Yes, and without the consumer ring without the consumer the manufacturing doesn’t happen or the stuff that’s manufactured (36:18) She’s yeah collecting dust.Yeah, because so it had yeah, it was a very sensitive system (36:22) Yeah (36:22) And if you don’t have the consumers spending money to produce sales tax (36:26) That promotes more jobs to promote income tax you’re you’re I see like no, I understand you’re saying it’s there’s all kinds of (36:34) there’s all kinds of (36:37) Balls rolling down the hill collecting more snow that if they don’t do that, there’s no (36:44) There’s no gross national product, right? Yeah (36:47) I mean the the problem is without capitalism the democracy part crumbles without democracy the capitalism part crumbles that he joined them together (36:54) So they became kind of an intricate (36:57) Debt balance. I don’t necessarily agree that you can’t have democracy without capitalism (37:01) He linked them. I understand that I’m saying the way the system was set up was it had it was on the backs of the consumer (37:08) Yes (37:09) I don’t I think that you can still have a I don’t disagree with a without (37:16) Right heat, but what I’m saying is the system was created the way he linked it.Yes understood (37:23) So then that system would collapse if it changed so was built on that premise starting in night in the 20s, right? (37:31) That’s what he did. He directly connected democracy and (37:36) capitalism and (37:37) That’s that was kind of running throughout rampant throughout the entire (37:41) You know part torches of freedom right to our point. Yes, we’re saying so (37:45) Yes, anyway, so we get out of that torches of freedom was like his first real campaign, right? (37:49) That kind of gave him no public not governmental right not government, you know, like with World War two, I’m sorry World War one (37:58) Etc.Right. So yes, it was so then what? (38:05) Ricky Schroeder’s thumb (38:07) Welcome. How you doing, buddy? Hey, that’s good, man.What do you think? Nice. Good point (38:16) Good point (38:18) I know I need to buy you a time. We’re only doing one (38:20) I need to get you a thumb to put up there with baffling that (38:24) Bath mat and the thumb and I meant to bring you another trophy, but I forgot it (38:27) I owe you a Greedo I owe you after yesterday’s episode that was released (38:32) I was gonna bring you my special agent orange from trading spate trading places.Oh, yeah (38:38) It’s a bobblehead of Eddie Murphy on the little cart with no legs. I (38:44) Forgot it. I’m sorry.I love it. I actually have something for you downstairs. Stop it a Greedo and it’s not a bedroom (38:49) I have a Greedo downstairs, but I also have another (38:52) Similar thing, but you won’t ever guess it.So you were I’m gonna try my (38:56) So after twitches a sex bot, no, damn it. I can’t afford that for you yet. I’m still I’m still on layaway get it (39:03) Layaway (39:08) Stupid as dad welcome to dad jokes everybody.That’s great (39:12) Dad jokes, bro. Hey dad, where’s my sex bot? (39:16) We can’t get her home yet. She’s still on layaway (39:20) So fantastic banana phone.Oh, it’s so great. All right, so (39:27) Basically (39:29) the 1929 (39:30) torches of freedom (39:32) He figured out how you can tie (39:35) products to the emotional (39:38) State the emotional psyche of the consumer of the American. Yeah, that’s basically what he figured out (39:44) Yeah, so by doing in a group he did the mom mentality.He always did. He always saw people as groups (39:50) Yeah, he never saw them as like we said earlier. He never saw them as individuals.Yes (39:56) the masses (39:57) suffer the masses (40:00) Who’s that that is (40:06) Flotsam ingest them for us to flip some and flop them flop. Is it flip? Is it flip some of a husband? (40:12) It’s such a good song (40:14) Yeah, they didn’t be a jet ski and jet skiing bar (40:18) You know who I think it is. I think it’s camo toe on the man.Is that new? (40:24) Is that new Limbaugh? Is that what you do? (40:26) Hey (40:27) Camel toe in the man that one needs to come back sometime (40:31) Welcome back to camel toe in the man. Danny had a nice thing to say (40:34) He’s like you guys have the radio voices for and we’re like, thank you very much (40:39) Back to you Bob. All right, so we’re back on off the tangents.Yes (40:43) so welcome after World War one ended there was a concern with the (40:50) Industries in America that they were because of the roaring 20s (40:54) There was a boom there was too much production over manufacturing, correct? So they were concerned that there was gonna be too many (41:00) products in surplus and (41:02) That was gonna be an issue (41:05) So because the middle class the the rich always always bought too much (41:10) They had too many of everything right, but the middle class always bought only what they needed whether it’s (41:17) Clothes or cars or food? They just bought exactly what they needed and the advertising of the day was (41:22) They the company’s advertised the functionality of the product (41:27) Oh this car does this this soap does that this is what you need? It’s reliable (41:33) It will last a long time. It will do the job that you needed to do. You need one your last one stopped (41:39) We can no longer fix it.So you need to get a new one (41:44) Basic stuff versus (41:47) Versus how (41:48) Edward Bernays (41:50) Looked at it and he wanted to solve that problem. Hey (41:54) People are coming out of the war. They’re making more money (41:57) We have all this extra surplus of everything because the manufacturing could make more (42:03) How do we shift? (42:07) Everything from a needs (42:10) Based culture to a wants based culture.The quote was how do we shift from needs to desired? Yeah (42:17) Did I get that right? (42:19) yes, Paul Mazer of Lehman Brothers said we need to shift America from a needs to his desires culture and (42:26) That was that was the way you shifted was emotionally. Yeah, absolutely because obviously when you’re playing (42:32) Logically, yes, I’m getting a new car because mine is irreparable or it cost (42:38) It’s not practical to keep it for whatever reason and I need a new one not (42:44) Oh, well, this one has like I said, this one’s got a little dirt on it and the newest model just came out (42:50) It’s so shiny and new and beautiful. I want it.I want something else (42:55) Versus the need I mean, it’s a huge and it’s a huge shift. I’m just it’s to blame though, too, man (43:00) Like we’re part of the system. I mean my last car it was six years old.It had 56,000 miles on it (43:06) I mean it ran great, but I needed new tires new brakes a new clutch (43:11) And I tried a little practical, yeah, but that’s a semi practical because of the amount of cost yeah, it was $3,000 (43:17) So do I pay three grand to fix all those things? (43:22) Or do I and there’s no warranty on it? (43:26) Or do I get something new that doesn’t have all those problems? (43:29) Yeah, because that is that is that is in the that is in the world that we live in now (43:37) Yeah, I don’t have a car payment now, but I got I’m gonna pay three grand (43:41) To fix it all to not have a car payment or do I get something else that has a car payment and then don’t have (43:46) That problem, right? So it’s just the kind of person that you are to yeah (43:49) Oh, it definitely comes into that because that comes in later is how they they we kind of get (43:55) Put in the labels and groups (43:58) Remember in century self later, they talk about different groups that you get put into. Yes. Yes.Yes. I forgot about get into that (44:03) But yeah, but that is part of the psychology (44:05) We’re just talking about kind of the history of how this all came (44:07) But going from a needs-based to a once-based is huge, right? Absolutely, and it’s funny because (44:14) Edward Bernays he started he basically started merchandising which reminded me of stupid space balls (44:20) I mean the the great needs desires question (44:25) The I think the best analogy in today’s world be the cell phone (44:30) Because every six months there’s a new model out (44:33) Yeah from the same company, right the 11 becomes a 12 the 12 comes at 13 (44:37) the 10 becomes the 20 the 20 becomes the 30 whatever right and (44:43) That’s every six months and how many times you I need new phone (44:46) You need a new fucking phone need those things are like a thousand bucks. I say the same thing though (44:52) I said it a couple days ago.I don’t disagree. I’m in the same boat (44:55) I’ve got an s 10 plus and I’m like I’ve still got another year and a half on this thing (45:01) Mine’s three years old and it’s starting to exhibit little signs of (45:06) The battery life’s becoming an issue and every once in a while. It gets a little weird, but nothing (45:13) Nothing’s deal-breaking, but three years is great.I’m talking about like for me (45:17) It’s always that 24 month thing to pay off, you know, it’s 0% interest to pay off the phone, right? (45:21) It’s like 30 bucks a month right for 24 months, right? And then at month 24, I don’t have a payment (45:27) But I want to get a new on a new phone, so that’s what I’m talking so that’s emotional (45:31) It’s all emotional man, cuz that my phone will last another two at least two years (45:35) I would love a new phone, but there’s nothing wrong with mine with mine the same thing for me the cars (45:40) I’m more the prac. I’m like, you know what? I’d like the car. I’d just drive it till it’s (45:44) So it’s done, but that’s me, right? It’s we all we all look at things differently.Absolutely. It’s and and we are so different but (45:51) Going from needs to wants I think cell phones are a good example anything that has that recurring kind of thing. Yes, we’re just (45:59) technology cell phones laptops (46:02) You know any kind of computers nowadays just is crazy how quickly something new comes out and how quickly we want it (46:08) Yeah, we just want we always want it.It’s really (46:11) It’s kind of sad. Yeah, and and like I’m sure these cell companies are four or five models already ahead, of course (46:19) But I’m like, well, why aren’t we getting that one now? (46:21) You know, I mean and there’s like the technology is there for the fifth like fifth model down and they’re building it (46:28) But we can’t get it now (46:30) Why can’t we get that now darn it because they got a trickle it out so they can keep us on the tee (46:35) Well, is that because of stock prices? Well, it stretches out, right? (46:39) It caught well, it’s cheaper to have older technology obviously come out to manufacture it, but (46:45) They’re rolling it out in line because they’re gonna keep us on because they’re gonna have that model down the road for us to buy (46:50) later (46:51) We’re on the morphine drip, bro (46:55) Dude I’m on a three-year-old drip. I’ve got a Bernays sauce drip.I got like an adult drip Bernie’s sauce drip (47:05) It’ll regardless regardless of that mr. Bernays basically started (47:10) Merchandising and he was hired by the department stores that sprang up in the 1920s (47:17) How they put models in the windows that whole displays in the windows thing started in the 20s with real people not mannequins (47:26) He was hired by William Randolph Hearst (47:30) Who owned a bunch of women’s magazines and in the magazines he put? (47:34) Advertising in there that looked like they weren’t advertising it would showed (47:40) Scarves and dresses and shoes and purses and all the same things. Nothing’s really changed a whole lot (47:45) I’m sure the magazines a lot thicker now, but that’s about it. There was product placements in movies digital (47:52) Digital, yeah (47:56) He put movie stars in (47:59) pieces of jewelry that (48:04) Were owned by companies that he represented so it was like he did cross (48:09) Motion.Yes, he William Randolph Hearst was paying him because of a magazine that he owned (48:16) He put stars in jewelry (48:19) Because the jewelry companies were paying him and then the department stores were paying him like he was on the take (48:26) from every angle and (48:29) And it was working because he all these other all these companies were making money because of the way he was doing things (48:37) It’s crazy (48:39) He was smart (48:42) Disgustingly, so (48:43) And finally on that point the whole cross promotion things amazing just having celebrities wearing the clothes, right? (48:48) I mean look how it’s done nowadays, right? Oh, yeah to have (48:52) Kardashian’s lip gloss (48:54) Don’t ever say that word again (48:56) Gloss, we’re doing a Star Trek episode lip or gloss (48:59) Those are both allowed (49:02) okay, and (49:03) Glitter is also allowed. I didn’t say glitter. Oh, sorry.Is that just for future when we go to Jaguars? (49:08) So anyway, the last point on that is as soon as they stop wearing masks, bro. Yeah, we’re there good masks over there (49:16) The last point on that is that celebrities were paid it to (49:25) Sell merchandise clothing, etc (49:27) Telling people that they needed to express themselves and those were the words they use and I thought that was so funny (49:33) That that’s a Madonna song (49:36) Yeah, so from 19 from the 20s until whenever the Madonna song came out (49:42) nothing’s changed (49:44) No, but it has gone (49:46) Through like it’s all of the individuality to the to the to the utilitarian right to the group back to the end of it (49:54) Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.Yeah, it’s gone back and forth over time (49:57) But the it’s the same hits the hits just keep on coming, right? (50:01) It’s always a recurring (50:03) Theme. Yeah, not one that goes away (50:05) Yes (50:06) We will become individuals and then we’ll become a group of something and then we’ll be we will have we will embrace your individual (50:11) Well, don’t we always want to be identified in a group? (50:13) I mean, isn’t that where the the tribalism that we’ve talked about many times before yes (50:17) But we also want to be free individual people, right? We also want to be 330 million (50:23) Individual like this whole identity thing identity politic type. Yeah, like I am in XYZ (50:29) Blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah-blah.I’m the only one I’m so unique that I’m me that I don’t fit in a group (50:36) What about me, but you also want to be part of a group? Yeah, it’s really weird, isn’t it? (50:41) Because the evolution is the social part. So it it feels like a push-pull feels like a fight. Yeah (50:48) Between I you know being an individual and being in a tribe (50:54) Yeah (50:55) The the challenge with being so individual in a group is in my opinion the (51:00) Individualities take over and the and the tribe dissipates (51:05) Because if your tribe is based on individuality, how do you get together on the same page? There is no tribe (51:12) You know, yeah, it almost it kind of almost seems counterintuitive, right? It’s absolutely it’s totally oxymoronic (51:18) I would feel like it wouldn’t last it wouldn’t be a lasting thing.We’re fine. I’ll kill each other. That’s gonna happen (51:23) You’ll see that’s not I don’t want to talk about that.No, that’s that’s all I’m saying. I’m not going any further than that (51:29) So I’ve got hollandaise on my on my eggs. Hell.Yeah, I was a Bernice Oh Bernice (51:34) Which one which one is Bernice sauce? Is it on steak? (51:39) So that’s not what the mushrooms, right? I hope not. Do you wanna cuz I can’t eat that (51:44) That’s fungus is gross the fun guy. I’m just some guy but I don’t eat no fun guy fungus is wrong, bro (51:51) so (51:52) Back to back there and be any big that is all for the merchandising section.Sorry anything to add to that (51:58) No, I think we got that covered man. Okay, so basically what he did he got our emotions involved (52:04) so he’s one things because (52:07) Needing them was no longer enough to for companies to grow the way they wanted to grow because well, let’s be honest (52:13) We’re all greedy. They wanted to be bigger (52:16) We can talk about America all we want (52:18) I think Bernice saw he believed in America the way he he formed it for sure (52:23) But he also formed it.So it’s kind of his it was his animal his yes. Yes (52:28) So but it’s interesting. All right.So what’s next on the agenda sir next on the agenda was president Coolidge (52:36) We have boring fuck that dull, dude (52:39) Why do I have to be the one person? (52:42) Fuck it. I don’t know. Why can’t you call him a boring fuck? He’s a boring fuck.Okay. Thank you (52:46) I mean, I only met him that one in Christopher calls cooler. It’s a boring fuck.I only met him that one time and (52:54) He he yeah, he was kind of dull during a seance. He’s pretty cool. Yeah, you know, it is what it is (53:00) I know it was just nice to meet a president.It was really kind of cool. Yeah, just that one time. Yeah (53:06) Just the tip so he was hired (53:10) Mr. Bernays was hired by president Coolidge to try to change his image (53:16) because he would (53:18) Across the country because he was viewed as a dull president (53:22) This is so interesting to me.This is one of it’s so stupid. It’s so so stupid (53:28) So simple yet genius, it’s so dumb. So what happened? I’m sorry.So I just thought this was so smart. Yeah, of course (53:35) Yeah, so mr. Bernays (53:37) reaches out to many movie stars (53:41) 34 movie stars went to the White House in (53:45) 1924 that is a lot. It is a boat load for (53:49) 1924 there were 30 there were more than 34 movie stars.I think there were 37. Okay, 37 (53:55) That was a Freudian (53:57) 17 days. Did you get it? (54:04) With your mother (54:08) Freudians that was fucking funny (54:10) good (54:12) so 34 34 (54:13) Movie stars show up at the White House and they have a lovely time (54:17) So the the they all meet the president and mr. Bernays is there he introduces each movie star to the president (54:24) and they have a nice time and they (54:27) There’s a bunch of pictures taken inside and outside the White House and it’s on every newspaper in the country (54:33) and it (54:34) The commentary was that the president actually may have laughed and actually may have had a good time (54:39) But it changed the pictures.That was hilarious, right? (54:43) The writer who was like he may have enjoyed himself or some wherever the fuck you (54:47) Something to that effect may had a chuckle right that he was so dull. He may have actually laughed (54:53) so (54:55) It’s just (54:56) the entire perception of the president changed (55:00) Because of a few hours at the White House with movie stars (55:05) Yeah, I wonder if he spread him out or if he had him like three a day for like a couple weeks I (55:13) Thought it was one evening. I and I’m not okay.I’m all over a one like in a gala. Yeah, that’s how I oh (55:19) That’s right, cuz he did talk about the evening. Yeah, so it makes sense.That’s probably what it was (55:23) I didn’t pay that I must have lost it whether it was just like one evening, but it sounds like that (55:28) I believe that’s what it was (55:29) Yeah, I sound like a gal of some sort right cuz he had a good time at this up here to have a pleasant time at (55:35) this affair (55:39) it’s again (55:40) diabolically genius and (55:42) Simple like oh, yeah. Oh, what if wait a minute? We need we need this (55:49) Other entity to be popular. Why not mingle them with popular people? (55:54) That’s that’s the association of the two.Yes, and that’s the first time that (55:59) Popular culture mixed with politics was 1924 and it’s been shittier and shittier every year (56:07) Down the pooper to the point where politic word celebrities are trying to be politicians (56:12) Even the even the apprentice was (56:15) God’s helpless and even some astronauts. Oh, we want to punch out people who want to swear on the Bible (56:22) My name was I knock you out (56:26) That was a fantastic is that a horrible buzz Aldrin Aldrin impression great (56:32) But it’s not as good as my oh, no, don’t do it (56:36) I’m not doing it. I’m gonna tease with that one.Oh, that’s rich Ricardo. You mean dick Dreyfie (56:44) Look dick (56:46) I’m not a crook. All right, so (56:48) We so many dicks (56:50) Politics and and popularity right now.Yes celebrities and ever since (56:56) Celebrity endorsements for politicians, right? They take sides. It’s disgusting (57:01) Just because you have a pop hit. Yeah, we have to listen to you because you want somebody to win (57:06) Yeah, you don’t know anything.You’re an idiot (57:09) the downside to that once again, though is (57:12) freedom of expression, of course these pot the the challenge with that is they have a (57:17) They have a (57:19) Street cred that’s an assumed street cred. That’s not always legitimate agree because it’s assumed on their popularity (57:26) Not necessarily on merit, correct (57:28) But that doesn’t mean that their voice doesn’t matter and it doesn’t it just means that their voice is louder because they are connected with (57:35) Popularity and we’re not for example not yet (57:37) Ladies and gentlemen, if everyone keeps listening though, like everyone if 7.7 billion people kept listening to us. I (57:47) How about (57:49) 7,000 (57:51) That’s a good start.I like (57:53) We’re getting there. Look we’re over 3,000 downloads in two in two in ten weeks (57:58) It took us five weeks to get to 1,000. So that’s pretty impressive.I agree (58:03) Congratulations to you also tambien to two tambourines to you all of the tambourine all of the tambourines 37 tambourines (58:11) But to that to that end (58:14) You know doesn’t mean their voice doesn’t matter that’s what’s frustrating for someone like you and I think it does matter (58:21) however, should (58:24) Should 30 million people listening to Taylor Swift (58:28) They should listen to her music (58:31) okay, no, they shouldn’t but should they listen to her political viewpoints and (58:37) Take her who should we be having this conversation? (58:40) Yeah, we actually should because it’s very important because this is about our consciousness. Okay, this is about being better people (58:46) Yes, it just turns out that her voice is louder and is televised. That’s not our fault.No, it’s not her fault (58:54) No, I mean, I agree. So like (58:56) Should other people listen that’s up to them, but that doesn’t mean she can’t say it (59:01) You know, I mean I used to be in that same boat was like why is a celebrity telling me how to vote? (59:05) Or something right or why are they promoting something? Yeah, because it feels like a sales pitch in a weird way (59:12) Understand but at the same point (59:14) They have they have an opinion about it too. And they’re they’re an American citizen (59:18) They’re allowed to have that opinion.Of course (59:20) it just turns out that we have to hear it because they’re a known entity right and (59:26) some people will use that cred as (59:30) Other credibility, right (59:31) They’ll use the fame as credit as pointing towards credibility that their statement holds more water (59:36) Because it’s from someone who’s popular. Do you think they’re getting paid some are in my opinion? (59:42) I I don’t know but I would I would assume yes, let’s say a political party goes to Bon Jovi and goes (59:48) Hey, we know you don’t have a political affiliation. I (59:53) Want you to come play our event for a million dollars? Yeah speak at our event.Hey vote for Johnny Smith (59:58) Baba blah speak at our event you now here’s living on a prayer. Yeah (1:00:04) totally a million each (1:00:06) Even though he’s worth a billion or so, right? (1:00:08) They don’t just do speaking engagements things like that though pad. The other thing too is you could you know, they do (1:00:15) Charity work.I mean, I (1:00:17) think (1:00:18) Yes, DiCaprio’s (1:00:19) Obviously a little extreme with the water thing (1:00:22) Yeah, I mean but sure okay, but he probably hasn’t well he’s got a personal he has faith in that in that (1:00:29) Movement movement. Sure. Okay, so I don’t think he needs to get paid (1:00:33) He’s already motivated like some some are motivated differently, of course (1:00:37) But I think yes, if you didn’t have an affiliation and they wanted you.Yeah (1:00:41) Why wouldn’t you take money to say? Hey think about voting for this guy? (1:00:46) What could that well they would or girl or a person right? Whatever. They would tell you what to say (1:00:52) Right, you’d have to sign a contract. Yeah, and then NDA that you know all that whatever you oh, yeah (1:00:57) Yeah, that they didn’t tell you what to say that you feel the you truly feel what you said and whatnot (1:01:04) Negotiate.Yeah to cover your butt. Mm-hmm (1:01:06) Yeah, I guess I mean (1:01:08) But you know, it depends. Are you is one a sellout like I (1:01:14) Have told both left and right and every political party that is texting me to fuck off (1:01:21) I (1:01:22) You know what I mean? Like I have a Democrat coming going.Hey, do you want to vote for blah blah blah and I’m like (1:01:28) None of your business and then I’ve had an NRA motherfucker go (1:01:32) Hey, do you want to vote the other way and I’m like none of your business? (1:01:36) so I am NOT suede as easily but I’m probably easily manipulated because all you have to do is tell me not to do something and (1:01:45) That’s all you if that’s what you want me to do something. Just tell me not to do it. Oh (1:01:49) Reverse cycle.Yeah, I’d be I’d be done. It’s quadruple reverse analogous mark double. Yes (1:01:55) I dare you not to did it it uh, oh, how dare you tell me not to (1:02:00) Dare you not to tell me that (1:02:02) That’s pretty much it.Like don’t tell me don’t tell me to be quiet. Don’t tell me to do something. I (1:02:10) Personal freedoms are very like see so they these these people that are texting you need an Edward Bernays (1:02:16) To discover that about you right because there’s probably a but his was different.I’m not the masses (1:02:22) You’re not but there’s probably a percentage of the population (1:02:25) That that the reverse would like how dare you but not the majority of people (1:02:30) We’re the contrarians, right? We’re small. We’re the conspiracy theorists the small sect of people that are just different (1:02:37) But in our difference we are also predictable (1:02:41) Yeah, why you listen to heavy metal or got into in the first place? (1:02:46) It’s probably different than how you feel about it. Now.Your initial may have been just a rebellious still speaks to my soul, right? (1:02:52) But I mean it just may have been a rebellious thing because it was different than other things (1:02:56) I’m spoke to my soul. I get it, but you understand what I’m coming from people. I understand (1:03:01) To be something different, right? Well, yeah, if you’re gonna call me different, I’ll be different.It’s not a curse (1:03:08) This is how he works, right? (1:03:10) And I’m I’m I don’t know you I haven’t delved into it (1:03:14) That’s how it is about it. If it was the music all along then it’s the music all. Oh, absolutely some people it’s it’s different (1:03:20) Some people are easily swayed by (1:03:22) Just hey like pointing out that you’re different is special.So be different, but they already have a fucking market for that (1:03:30) There’s enough of a niche (1:03:32) You say and we’re gonna talk about that in later episodes too because that comes up about the individual as well, but (1:03:42) So he’s like Stevie Shemming (1:03:46) Chainsaw massacre is gonna be happening. Are we fire going very shortly fire go? (1:03:51) Yeah, put the leg in this treat the tree shredder play. I got the nightcrawlers my RG don’t just plain funny looking (1:03:56) Oh, yeah.Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, no.No, I got no I got the serial numbers right here (1:04:01) No, all right, William H so to move along (1:04:06) Yes (1:04:07) We fucking I love our tangents, man (1:04:13) Room from okay in 1983. My dad drove to Palm Springs with me and my (1:04:22) From where does that come stupidest story time ever? (1:04:26) Okay, 1983 my my fam my mom and dad and I drove to Palm Springs when I was a wee lad (1:04:32) To look at a timeshare (1:04:36) Presentation so that my dad could get a chainsaw. That’s the only reason (1:04:42) That we went there (1:04:43) I’ve done it for rooms and I’ve never done it for a chainsaw fucking bought it (1:04:48) You know buying you bought the timeshare and he got the free chainsaw today and he got the chainsaw (1:04:53) Oh, well, you know, it’s a huge huge kickback way to go say sir.How long did the chainsaw last? (1:04:58) I don’t know three months. I don’t know dude. He probably it’s probably still into someone’s (1:05:05) Some hoarder still has it (1:05:07) It’s my dad went to a hoarding meeting and he gave it to one hoarder who gave it a different order and there you go (1:05:12) And and the connection is Edward Bernays came up with the timeshare.No (1:05:17) The chainsaw sound outside the window. So I know is ill regardless tie it back in 1927 (1:05:24) Wow, so wait, what did we just come out of? (1:05:27) 1926 (1:05:29) Yet 24. I’m just kidding after president Coolidge.Oh, yeah, it was cool now, right? Yes. He was super seven. Oh (1:05:37) Mr. Bernays (1:05:40) Convinced the middle class (1:05:44) That they should also buy stock in (1:05:47) National companies like the rich do he did this by convincing them to borrow money from banks that were paying him (1:05:58) So these people bought money about borrowed money they bought stock (1:06:05) Which two years later they lost in the stock market crash, right (1:06:09) Because they over they artificially inflated the market.How ironic is that? (1:06:14) All right, and they lost all the money to the people (1:06:18) From whom they borrowed it who drill told them to do it in the first place (1:06:21) Yeah, and then I would imagine purple circles. I imagine that they most likely defaulted on those loans, too (1:06:28) That was not mentioned the 30s are coming. Well, right so we know what happens in the 30s (1:06:34) So every so those unless we know happens in unless there was some people that got out of the market like hey (1:06:39) We just made $1,000.Let’s get out. You know, I mean like in 1928 (1:06:43) Did you make no, of course you didn’t because there was the belief in that time that a crash was not possible (1:06:51) Greed is good. So you what what American human being what animal with a conscious like a human being is (1:06:59) Gonna be like, oh I just made a thousand dollars in a week.Yeah, let me pull that out because (1:07:04) I can’t make ten in two weeks. I did (1:07:07) Chris I got out. Yeah, you’re not a human.Remember we’ve I’m not human this (1:07:11) You have human. Do you do you know what your blood type is? (1:07:14) I do gonna look it up in my phone if you can while we’re talking about it (1:07:18) Isn’t my the same notepad that I’m reading my notes from I do have my blood type in here (1:07:22) I do cuz I’m a psycho Virgo (1:07:26) Virgos bro psycho (1:07:28) so (1:07:29) We were talking about yeah, so he he worked for the bank, right Bernays represented the bank the banks paid him (1:07:35) Right the banks paid him and he got Coolidge to basically say borrow money from my from my employers (1:07:44) Yes to (1:07:45) Artificially inflate obviously the stock market crash they lose it all and he walks away with whatever amount of money (1:07:51) Because he’s a manipulative dude, but he gets it, right? That’s crazy (1:08:01) so (1:08:03) Maybe I don’t have it. Oh, man, there it is.Ricky thumb Schroeder Ricky thumb Schroeder. God damn it. I am B (1:08:10) Positive you’re positive.I (1:08:12) Thought you what is that? Why why did you ask? What does that even mean? (1:08:16) Rh negative my friend. We’ll talk about it off a lot (1:08:18) I mean we can tangent it now, but it’s probably its own podcast (1:08:21) Do we want it? We’ll talk about it with UFO connections and all the okay (1:08:24) I don’t know. I don’t even know what you’re talking.So basically there’s two there’s multiple blood types (1:08:28) But then there’s also a positive and negative (1:08:30) Yes portion, right? Yeah, so you can be a positive a negative whatever. Yeah. Oh negative.Oh negative. Oh great metal band (1:08:37) Yeah type. Yes great metal band (1:08:39) so (1:08:40) You can have that now (1:08:43) Only 15% of the population in the of the world humans.Yeah have what’s called RH negative blood (1:08:51) Okay, so that’s blah blah negative a B negative. Oh negative negative blood negative blood (1:08:56) What that means is it’s missing the rhesus monkey gene (1:09:00) The rhesus monkey is the direct (1:09:03) ascendant of humans and (1:09:06) Allegedly every human being must have (1:09:09) rhesus (1:09:10) Blood this rhesus gene in it. Okay, but why do 15% of people not have it? (1:09:17) what’s also interesting is (1:09:19) I’ve looked up numbers and studies, but (1:09:22) 60% of (1:09:24) Alien that people claim to have been abducted by aliens are people with with RH negative blood (1:09:31) so (1:09:32) 15% of the world’s population (1:09:35) accounts for (1:09:36) 60% of the alleged alien abductions (1:09:40) So they there is a thought out there not saying I subscribe to it or not (1:09:44) Like we said before just because I entertain the thought you’re reporting the information, right? (1:09:48) I we are able to entertain a thought without leading to fucking hitch our wagons to it friend understood (1:09:55) the thought is that the RH negative blood is the alien blood that some other species had gotten into (1:10:04) Humanity, so some people have negative blood.I don’t know my gut we’ve gotten into humanity (1:10:08) Well, because like almost like the genetics like radiant us not impregnate like what do you mean like manipulation like CRISPR CRISPR for them? (1:10:17) So like like remember the twins in China the twins in China (1:10:21) They took out the HIV gene or whatever and it made him smarter. They had better memory. Remember the two we talked about that (1:10:26) No, we’ll talk about that.But basically (1:10:29) Not having the right to see like DNA hybrid. Yes, like human alien DNA (1:10:36) Manipulation. Yeah, I can’t think of the right word.Yeah, that’s right. Yeah. Okay.Yeah, so basically yeah making DNA or (1:10:43) Basically like a gene splicer editor kind of thing like there’s four word document. That’s what CRISPR is (1:10:49) So in China, they did that already a doctor took twins and took out a certain gene that was associated with the HIV with HIV (1:10:57) without that gene (1:10:58) HIV cannot happen in the body, but there was a side effect. That side effect was increased memory and intelligence (1:11:07) Hello Wow, and the I never showed you that that article we’re weak (1:11:12) For even mint dude, let’s do a podcast on that one because that’s a that that’s what that one definitely interest you just from the (1:11:19) Wow, no, that was cuz my leg just pop.Oh, yeah (1:11:23) Hurt that was a different Wow. Yeah, sorry. That was an owl.Yes, correct. No what what? (1:11:29) You’re missing the wolf sir. Oh (1:11:33) Wow, no (1:11:35) Ow, yeah, sorry.Okay. So yeah, I did forgot but that’s pretty impressive. So this is the Rh negative blood (1:11:41) there’s an there’s a (1:11:43) School of thought or whatever.I don’t know what the correct term sure. It’s not even hypothesis (1:11:48) I thought it’s accurate, right? You can’t really test it (1:11:51) So it’s not really scientific unfortunately because you can’t test it that that Rh negative are (1:11:58) Human hybrids (1:12:00) be with our H negative blood because the Reese’s gene should be in every human homo sapiens blood allegedly because we’re (1:12:06) Part of that then again, it could just been in a mutation (1:12:09) But it sounds it sounds weird that you know percent of abductions or 15% of the people. Do you know what I have? (1:12:15) Gout.Nope. I (1:12:18) Have the Reese’s peanut butter cup gene (1:12:21) You know what I have Kellogg’s crisp X. Oh, yeah, I see times two boom. They’re delicious (1:12:28) corn and rice sir (1:12:30) What on each side (1:12:33) Moving along back to tangents (1:12:36) Welcome back tangents.I’m very sorry also in the 20s. I had a note here that dr (1:12:42) Freud released a book in the United States and the very short CliffsNotes version of it was that (1:12:48) the human subconscious and unconscious cannot be trusted and (1:12:54) leads to a mob mentality (1:12:56) Which was somewhat of his theory before World War one and World War one (1:13:01) But we don’t want to prove that or at least showed that reflected that see just because it happened doesn’t mean that that’s the only way (1:13:08) I mean some people didn’t war (1:13:13) anyway (1:13:15) So now we’re in the 30s or I also noted that after the stock market in 1929. There were (1:13:22) Fights there was already a (1:13:25) financial crisis in Europe (1:13:27) Inflation was an issue and stuff like that (1:13:29) So in 1929 when the stock market crashed that did obviously affected Europe and it made Europe even worse (1:13:35) So well allowed the rise of Hitler, of course (1:13:39) but it also there was a lot of (1:13:41) fights in Europe and (1:13:44) Mobs and stuff like that.So it be my point to bring it up as it reminds me of today or you know (1:13:49) The summer of kovat and the the bullshit that’s been going on in this country and also in the UK and other places where (1:13:58) There’s social unrest and whatever other words you want to use (1:14:04) this (1:14:06) Situation we’re in this year in 2020 during all of this (1:14:10) it (1:14:10) does (1:14:12) unfortunately remind me of certain revolutions where an outside group was (1:14:19) Infiltrated hired used (1:14:23) Initially the thought was to make positive change and (1:14:28) Now it’s been hijacked by a group who wants to not rep not have the United States be what it is (1:14:34) I’m trying to be as vague as I can because I’m not what revolution would you refer that would am I allowed to question? (1:14:42) Yeah, because we’ve been taught I think they even talked about they did much in the Russian Revolution (1:14:47) Look at the Germans, so you’re saying Germans (1:14:51) burn fucking but these rational like I (1:14:55) Come from a German family. No Germans are about as fucking robotic as they can be (1:15:01) I mean as that is about as Vulcan as well next to Russian (1:15:05) Is there a more Russian or just sad Russians are surprisingly emotional? They’re just sad (1:15:12) Well, but they’re surprisingly emotional they’re they’re they’re tragic like they’re sad creatures (1:15:17) But that they write such beautiful music and literature because of their sadness, but it’s emotion. It’s not cold.They’re not (1:15:26) They’re not emotion. They are very emotional. They’re not logical.Okay, so I was incorrect. Well, it’s my opinion (1:15:32) Okay, this is no a pardon. No, I’m not I’m not pleased.No. Well like think about Tolstoy. Yeah, Tchaikovsky Tchaikovsky.Yeah (1:15:40) Just all of other Russians, well just a ski I mean the brilliance out of check off out of these (1:15:46) nuclear whistle (1:15:48) captain (1:15:50) evacuation captain (1:15:52) But so Germans, but Germans are just very robotic (1:15:55) They all they did was have fucking rage. Did you see the passion like what? (1:16:00) I don’t know what else to call it those those groups of people in the stands just cheering one (1:16:06) Unity blah blah blah burning books like what rational human rational human being (1:16:13) Can get carried away? (1:16:15) Into thinking like that and that was only 70 years ago 80 75 years ago. Yeah (1:16:22) Yeah, 75 years ago this year, right 75.Yeah (1:16:26) 75 yeah, 75 years ago 45 (1:16:28) I’m sure 70 is yes or 2015 and then 5 is 2020 75 years ago and a world war 2 45 (1:16:37) Yes. Yeah, so (1:16:40) that a mere 75 years ago and (1:16:44) It’s happened since don’t get me wrong. It wasn’t that long ago.That’s not that is a that’s a one lifetime. Yeah (1:16:50) Yeah one lifetime (1:16:53) We the most rational individuals (1:16:56) We’re doing the most emotional things (1:16:59) completely (1:17:00) Out of their minds insane who would have allowed what rational people to allow the atrocities done to Jews? (1:17:08) who (1:17:09) Who just felt that way? That’s they they made that they manufactured that passion the fear were they scared? (1:17:16) Well, I so they got there’s a nationalism to it. There’s a I there’s so much of the motherland like they tied Germany outside (1:17:24) They tied the people to the land like people left America to fight for Germany (1:17:31) Yes (1:17:31) With the head German blood.Yeah. Yeah, and they think those people want to go (1:17:37) No, it was a duty Germans are very do okay, but that’s their culture, right? (1:17:42) So it it all ties in to how it how they manipulated that but once you get the mob going (1:17:48) Yeah, once you get a group of people. Yeah, and you reach that tipping tonight they (1:17:53) This they knew that that’s how people get trampled to death on Walmart on Black Friday (1:17:58) That’s why I think about that (1:18:00) How many people like I think it’s got it.I remember there was one (1:18:03) I think four people died in one incident shut where they just (1:18:07) Funneled into the opening and just the front people got all for a cabbage patch kid (1:18:15) Well, if it was it wasn’t the 80s, but if it was for that it’s (1:18:19) Mmm what well (1:18:22) So is it I’m not gonna say you’re saying was it worth it. Is that what you were thinking you jerk? (1:18:30) Hello to the world, I do not mean that at all. I never had I was making it and I’m okay with that (1:18:34) I don’t think the boys had them didn’t they? Well, I guess doesn’t you know what? I’m I’m sorry.I brought it up. I (1:18:43) Had a Teddy Rock spin. I didn’t told us a story.I didn’t either I didn’t have cool stuff (1:18:47) I had his pants. I had an Atari 2600. I didn’t even have that.That was that was the bomb (1:18:52) I wanted one very very bad. That’s that was the bomb. I got into electron didn’t have a Nintendo.I (1:18:59) Got that for breaking my leg. That was worth it every fucking second of that. That’s what you get for (1:19:04) I got a cast for breaking my leg.I got that too. And then I got spike bar (1:19:08) I gained 70 pounds in two years. It was a great great time (1:19:14) Steve Buscemi still out there (1:19:19) All right, do you do you oh, sorry, where we at I (1:19:23) Mean, I’ve got a bunch of Nazi notes.You want to go down that road? Yeah, let’s do it my other well (1:19:27) There’s one. There’s one note. I had about dr.Freud that (1:19:31) he said (1:19:34) Human beings must always be controlled (1:19:38) Therefore they will always be discontented. He thought that you know, he thought the unconscious and subconscious (1:19:46) Was always there’s always gonna be anger and rage in there and on the edge of (1:19:51) chaos (1:19:52) Therefore it must be controlled. Therefore.There will always be discontent, right? (1:19:57) But which to me means you can never as a human in dr. Freud’s mind. You can never be happy (1:20:03) That’s my interpretation of what he said, right? Basically.Yeah, because (1:20:08) Well the freedom (1:20:10) the freedom to be dark (1:20:13) Negates the reason to be free (1:20:18) Totally fucked but is that yes, like is that almost paradoxical the right did that make sense after saying that the (1:20:26) The freedom to do what you want to be dark and evil, right? (1:20:32) Cuz that’s what humanity is especially in his mind the freedom to be that way (1:20:40) Negates the reason to have the freedom because you won’t exist without the control (1:20:47) Yes, because you all kill each other. I said it better the first time. Yes.Well, I (1:20:50) Mean are you gonna delete the first question? No, no, no, you’re not. I’m done. I’m doubling down sir.Boom (1:20:57) Yeah (1:20:58) so basically the freedom to be able to do what we wanted or (1:21:01) To do what we want will lead us to be dark and mobby and fucking kill each other so we won’t survive (1:21:06) Therefore we really shouldn’t have the freedom but not having the freedom also makes us sad and it feeds into it’s like a feedback loop (1:21:14) That just constantly. Yeah, it’s a it’s like I’m sorry. Didn’t you just say paradox? (1:21:19) Yeah, there you go.I think so. That’s absolutely correct (1:21:22) Where Buddha talked about connection being the source of all suffering? (1:21:27) Freud thought (1:21:29) that (1:21:31) We just were dark suffering fucking beings (1:21:35) Some I’m really sorry to admit this but some days I agree with dr. Freud I am more nihilist than not (1:21:42) I’m probably 51 49 (1:21:45) It’s hard to I (1:21:47) Hey, man, can I ask you a question? (1:21:49) Yeah after this you want to go with me and look at a timeshare and get a chainsaw.Yeah, it would love (1:21:54) It sounds like the one outside is smell. That one is definitely gonna blow up. Yeah, I guess (1:22:01) I (1:22:01) I’m really interested in this chainsaw fucking is that like toaster with the bank account back in the day old school (1:22:07) Come on down.Look at a timeshare with a fucking chainsaw. I can’t believe that he brought his fucking checkbook. What a dipshit (1:22:15) Chainsaw.Yes, who did your mom still have that timeshare? Yeah (1:22:19) How much is it still per month or I don’t got a bill in it like a year (1:22:23) So I don’t really know what’s going on with it. I’m wondering if it’s going to like two addresses ago (1:22:30) They don’t you down bro, they haven’t hunted I (1:22:34) Don’t they haven’t hunted. I don’t I don’t know what to say man.Well, yeah. Hello there timeshare people (1:22:40) Yeah, he’s hunt down. Don’t know leave me alone.Yeah, leave him alone. She doesn’t have any money (1:22:46) She doesn’t know (1:22:47) All right. Let’s sorry.Let’s get off that. No, it’s totally good man. So no, but she chainsaw for a timeshare is fucking (1:22:56) timeshare chainsaw chainsaw timeshare (1:22:59) Is the name of a band chainsaw timeshare? (1:23:02) Timeshare chainsaw.It’s gotta be timeshare. No, the timeshare should never be in any phrase ever. It’s horrible time traveler time (1:23:10) other stuff but not timeshare (1:23:14) It’s time stupid to time it to yes approved (1:23:18) Excellent.Well, let’s continue that with mr. Okay, so I have a bunch of Nazi notes here (1:23:27) The (1:23:28) Following phrase really hit me that (1:23:31) they believed democracy led to chaos and unemployment and (1:23:37) They use that to win the election (1:23:40) Yes, and they actually didn’t win the election (1:23:43) Okay, enlighten me (1:23:46) But I want you to finish that point real quick about that chaos that there’s a couple other democracy led to chaos, okay, so (1:23:54) Coming out of World War two or I’m sorry one coming out for war one (1:24:00) Treaty Versailles, right? Yes, sir. That’s correct in power. Germany was screwed (1:24:07) Badly hamstrung like they were they had their Achilles tendon cut they had fun.They were hamstrung. They were handcuffed (1:24:13) They couldn’t they couldn’t fart without like sanctions or some shit. It was bad.Like it was not good for the fart sanctions, bro (1:24:21) Okay, so that’s what we’re one remember now this is 20 (1:24:25) Germany’s just suffering for all this time because of all the sanctions after 18 correct 1918 (1:24:30) So men then the world economy, right? (1:24:35) It’s because they led United States is on the tail end of that 29, right? Boom (1:24:39) so now for 20 years (1:24:42) they’ve had (1:24:44) Absolute shit. So from 1918 to (1:24:47) 1933 (1:24:50) When Hitler got elected 15 years of poop and it was and once again, I’ll correct the election thing specifically (1:24:57) Whatever words you because it was unique. It’s unique the way Germany does their election system.That’s why it’s very clear (1:25:02) It’s not a straight democracy like ours. All right, right. So (1:25:06) So in for 15 years Germany, I think was about 50% unemployment (1:25:11) Jesus and the United States was 33% and you saw that was 25 in America (1:25:16) I thought it was up to 33 percent.That’s a lot (1:25:20) Regardless, it was like 50% German. Okay, so, you know how bad it was here. Yeah, it was (1:25:27) Worse.Yeah, and they had no way out (1:25:30) So this knight in shining armor comes in (1:25:33) That’s where he comes in. He only had a percentage of the vote (1:25:36) Now what happens is you don’t vote for the person you vote for a party? (1:25:40) Yeah, now there’s a person that represents that party like Angela Merkel (1:25:43) Represents her part of black. Yeah, Hitler represent the National Socialist Party (1:25:48) Yeah, they only had a small percentage not a small percentage (1:25:50) They had a sizable percentage of the total vote, but they didn’t have a majority, right? (1:25:55) They bribed other groups or threatened or still whatever happened happens and certain (1:26:00) Catholics also handed over a portion of the Vatican.We talked about that (1:26:05) yeah, because there was a group that Hitler got their portion of the vote and (1:26:10) He basically formed a coalition (1:26:13) That he was the head of to win to have the most votes right you have the influence (1:26:18) so he then became Chancellor as (1:26:21) The head of this group that he cobbled together by via threat (1:26:26) via logic via (1:26:28) appealing to via Catholics own anti-semitism, sorry for people who actually feel like they’re good people, but (1:26:36) That was a big that’s yeah, I was a big part of anti-semitism was still and always a (1:26:43) Big part. Yeah, it’s not very unfortunate, but I know that’s true. What’s interesting the Emperor the one of the Emperor’s representatives from Japan (1:26:51) visited Hitler and (1:26:54) He was so amazed and moved by how well Hitler had the whole thing running (1:26:59) Like just a lot coming from a Japanese person from a Japanese very it says a lot and his statement was I (1:27:09) Wish we had a common enemy like the Jews to focus all our hatred towards.Oh my god (1:27:14) Oh, we don’t have that. That’s what we’re lacking and (1:27:20) What’s scary and once again, welcome to tangents? What’s scary is how true that is now (1:27:26) The United States currently feels like it’s eating itself up from the inside (1:27:32) Yeah sad but (1:27:34) The reason that part of that is we don’t have a Russia anymore. Well, we have Russia (1:27:41) They’re but they’re so in if they’re impotent that we don’t see them as an enemy.China is more scary (1:27:46) but we don’t even see China’s like a (1:27:49) Military force. We don’t even know like we only think about them militarily. They just manufacture everything (1:27:55) Well, they’re a consumer superpower owned by that right because all our manufacturing goes through them (1:27:59) So they are a superpower now, they are going to be the one they had they are there are they are on the well on (1:28:06) The way if not already, yeah (1:28:08) They’re buying scientists.They’re buying everything. They have the means to do it. They make all the iPhones dude.They make everything there (1:28:16) They just get it as a people (1:28:19) But they’re not free, right? But that’s the thing, right? So (1:28:24) We were talking about (1:28:26) Germany or having a common enemy. We don’t really have a common enemy. So what are we doing? We’re in fighting right now (1:28:33) Yeah, right now.It’s all this in fighting. It’s stupid (1:28:37) That is not what I mean causes are real and need change (1:28:42) But the infighting is stupid the way it’s being done is is stupid. We’re not having a civil discourse.It’s not (1:28:49) Right. It’s not constructive. It’s not (1:28:52) We’re not getting anywhere yeah, we need we need change we need to discuss and see and sometimes we are like (1:28:59) Yeah, we agree to disagree.Some of those answers are gonna be agreed to disagree (1:29:02) They’re just gonna be and how do we move forward? Right, but that’s what yeah, we’ll table it for now (1:29:08) Let’s handle what we can handle and let’s be cool and not be assholes to each other (1:29:13) Don’t be a dick bro. I don’t yeah, don’t be a dick. That’s a t-shirt as a weird fucking hashtag (1:29:17) Don’t be a dick and then bro, that’s one (1:29:21) Microbes so it’s microbes all the microbes all of the microbes (1:29:32) so anyway (1:29:34) So yeah, so the Emperor or the you know, Japan saw how Germany used the Jews the enemy and (1:29:42) Look at what that did look at that common goal to not that (1:29:48) You know the Aryan goal, whatever that goal is that pure whatever that common goal was a goal.Yeah, they picked an enemy (1:29:54) That’s horrible. Just juice kill him (1:29:58) It’s so bad, you know, they basically killed (1:30:02) There’s only twice as many Jews total in the world as one as the number that were killed (1:30:08) In World War two, it’s like seven million Jews, right? There’s only about 15 million Jews to 17 million Jews out there (1:30:15) there’s 7.7 billion people and (1:30:18) And once again Jews account for 25% of the Nobel Science Prizes in the in the 1900s (1:30:25) well, only one of four Jews, they’re point zero two percent or point two percent of the population and (1:30:31) They account for 25% of scientific feats (1:30:35) Yeah, they’re an enemy because they’re envious and they’re not large. That’s that’s actually that helps (1:30:40) They’re they’re oddly powerful yet a small group (1:30:44) The people they’ve I feel like they’ve been so mistreated for so long.Well, yeah (1:30:50) Since the Egyptians fucking wrote the Bible (1:30:53) It’s her own fucking. Well, they know that well some of them did and just then they became Christians (1:31:00) Judy Judaism 2.0, bro. Yeah (1:31:03) Hashtag Judaism 2.0 (1:31:05) Okay, so Bernie (1:31:10) Edward Bernie Bernice (1:31:12) The other notes I had on the Nazi party was that I thought it was ironic that Joseph Goebbels was called the Minister of Propaganda (1:31:19) how that they (1:31:21) They didn’t think the word propaganda was bad.So it Germans looked at things very black and white (1:31:26) Well, and I don’t mind that I think it’s funny funny. It’s not the right word, but it’s yeah, it is funny (1:31:35) The (1:31:35) Word has the connotation of the word has changed so drastically in what’s 75 years is not really that long of a time (1:31:44) If you look at the how long of the humans been on the planet say five years is nothing (1:31:49) But that word has is is so negative now, you know (1:31:54) Whether it’s Russian propaganda or how whatever whatever connotation you want to use that word is bad. It’s not a good word (1:32:00) No in any way (1:32:03) We now have it as a bad thing, but it may not have been back then and right and (1:32:09) we as (1:32:10) Propaganda didn’t like the term but maybe Germans took to it or maybe I wonder what his actual title is (1:32:17) That’s what they said Minister of Propaganda, but that’s a translation into English.Oh (1:32:23) So remember we’re being yeah, I’m not saying it isn’t but I didn’t look that up (1:32:28) That’s just popped in my head right now. So I’ll have to look that up (1:32:30) Okay, but do you understand what I’m saying? Yeah, it might be minister of information, right? (1:32:35) But we translate it to propaganda because we want them to look bad. Yeah, so we manipulated what we called them (1:32:41) Yeah, okay, so I’m gonna have to look all right.I see what you’re saying. I’m not saying he wasn’t okay green assault cool (1:32:47) Bottle assault salt. Yeah, it’s whole dude.Whatever. He’s a rump shaker. Oh (1:32:52) Twerk fuck you zoom.Zoom is better work a girl. Yeah, I want to zoom zoom zoom in a boom boom (1:32:58) The shit I do that’s all I want to do a couple other notes (1:33:05) that they used (1:33:07) But the boom mic don’t hit the boom mic with your face (1:33:10) other notes was that they used Freud’s theory to motivate the country you touched on that and (1:33:17) How they used (1:33:20) Freud’s theory was that that humans are actually bad or (1:33:26) The inherently bad (1:33:28) So they use they use his theories to unite the country to the motherland. Just like you said and to (1:33:36) Attack those on the outside (1:33:38) So they use that anger or that rage or that negative human garbage to attack those on the outside of the country (1:33:44) Anyone who wasn’t part of the mob? (1:33:46) right (1:33:47) Yeah, that’s how my mentality works man (1:33:51) Frankenstein got a bad rep very much so torches and pitchforks, bro, right hashtag torches and pitchforks, right? (1:33:58) The last point was that there was an interview with Joseph Goebbels that he admired the way that President Roosevelt (1:34:04) Was doing the New Deal and how he was using (1:34:07) The government to get business back on track because of the Great Depression and he liked that a lot and he thinks that it was (1:34:14) the government’s job (1:34:16) to run businesses (1:34:18) Which was a direct (1:34:21) Opposite of what American businesses thought American business (1:34:25) It’s not capitalism get your hands get the government hands out of business business is private.What are you doing? (1:34:31) So I thought it was ironic that a knots one of the top five Nazi guys (1:34:36) was admiring what the United States president was doing in 1932 1933 and (1:34:42) probably advised by Bernice (1:34:46) Entirely possible (1:34:47) I’m not sure about Nate burn. I don’t know. Well, I mean obviously days obviously had influence (1:34:52) Well, they were using it’s at some point.He had Coolidge in his pocket several. Yes and Hoover before that. I’m sorry (1:34:59) Wilson sorry.Yeah (1:35:02) It’s a very interesting point (1:35:06) What it was was this though? That’s where the shift comes right like I don’t know your personal thoughts (1:35:13) Obviously by stating this you’re gonna put me in a political label because you have to because (1:35:18) If you believe in one thing of a party all of a sudden you believe the whole thing (1:35:21) Like absolutely not the weirdest fucking thing. I am I am I’m basically I’m pro-choice in the first trimester. I (1:35:30) Now if it is 4% of people that are really not guilty that are on death penalty (1:35:34) I am anti death penalty, which I used to be pro like you can’t I am not (1:35:39) Religious in any way, but I am (1:35:43) a gun (1:35:45) Supporter and a free speech person.You’re a constitutionalist, right? (1:35:48) I am but I’m saying you paint me those certain certain of those things put me in one camp. I’m certain of those (1:35:54) Yes, he’s put me in another camp. Yes, so I am it (1:35:57) I’m about as individual as you can get I can’t be labeled.You’re literally an independent as (1:36:03) As independent as everyone anyone could be because I actually think about each (1:36:07) Individual topic on its own (1:36:10) To stand its merit. I don’t think because I believe in pro (1:36:14) That I am anti death penalty that I’m pro-choice all of a sudden. I don’t there the topics are completely not related (1:36:21) They don’t they don’t correlate.I don’t know why they’re connected and I don’t know why we conflate them like that, but it’s unfortunate (1:36:27) So that all said (1:36:30) Yeah (1:36:31) That he saw the government having control. I don’t like the government having control (1:36:35) I do believe in capitalism. I don’t think we’re doing it correctly (1:36:40) Because the original capitalism was any profits should be put right back in the company (1:36:45) Oh, I agree.And yeah read of the greed of the human has not allowed capitalism to actually be (1:36:52) Actually be executed the way it’s intended to be if it were where the owner got a you know (1:36:59) X amount of the profits, of course, they created the company they get X amount but not keep skimming off the top (1:37:06) reinvesting anything remaining not into a fucking addition to their house not into a hot tub or a pool but back into the company and (1:37:14) It was more of a tighter circle (1:37:17) Then then it’d be interesting. I think there was a cool TED talk about that and we are really going off into tangent (1:37:22) I love this (1:37:23) there was a TED talk about it, maybe we’ll talk about this one where I think 50 60 years ago the (1:37:29) CEO the company made eight times what the worker did and (1:37:33) Now it’s like a thousand to one. Yeah, it’s like such a (1:37:38) Huge gallon is it between those is it the net worth of the president of the company? (1:37:44) Or is it like salary the salary plus Commission plus? (1:37:48) Right one stock options or is once you have everything all in all the person makes like a (1:37:53) Thousand times like a CEO makes like a thousand times what the worker does but it was only an eight or twelve to one (1:38:00) Back in like the 50s when production was good and things were much more stable (1:38:06) So that greed, you know, it creates that bigger gap (1:38:10) So we don’t reinvest or we don’t whatever look we’ve lost all manufacturing.Why because it’s got more expensive to do read (1:38:16) Yeah, it got more expensive to do it because I want to go on Amazon and I want to buy something (1:38:21) Inexpensively and I want it on my step the next day. Yeah. Yeah, that’s greed greed gets us in trouble (1:38:27) And that’s that’s what look that’s what when you talk about you can’t disagree with Freud (1:38:33) Greed is a huge part of the negative (1:38:37) We are a fucking awful species in a mob (1:38:41) we just take I mean we just have that ability and (1:38:46) Yeah, do do eventually do we calm down? Yeah, but in that moment (1:38:52) We’re on stop unstoppable (1:38:55) And there’s no calming it what until it has to naturally cool itself off (1:39:00) And that’s I was how riots happen.I was thinking about that very (1:39:05) point on the way over here is that is that because (1:39:12) Is that because? (1:39:14) That that base that we all have as humans. That’s that survival instinct. We’re all built with because (1:39:20) Basically, we’re we’re cave people (1:39:23) We’re cave people DNA and we’re cave people instincts, but we have cell phones and air conditioning (1:39:29) Yeah, we have a medulla oblongata correct and we have Taco Bell (1:39:33) But yet you and I were born in this in the 1970s not in (1:39:38) BC (1:39:39) 74 yeah, so we were raised and born into an environment where we had jets (1:39:47) Yes, so we have (1:39:51) The we have the instincts of a caveman of we have survival mechanisms (1:39:56) But we haven’t been forced to use them (1:39:59) Right.They’re atrophying (1:40:01) Yeah, sure. I mean there’s two parts of it part one is (1:40:06) we have the knowledge of cell phones and jets, but (1:40:10) Do we have the wisdom of cell phone and jets? (1:40:15) Right what I mean by that is yes social media exists, but are we responsible? (1:40:21) With it are we using it correctly? (1:40:24) Well that I don’t think that’s (1:40:27) That’s a whole other subject. It’s all I think my it’s two things.Oh, sorry. God. My point is that if you (1:40:36) is (1:40:37) our survive you said our survival instincts are (1:40:40) They’re waning because of the age that we have been we’re not into.Yeah an age that we have (1:40:49) Been raised in and the society we have and you know, we have a ceiling fan over us right now (1:40:54) It feels nice. It’s lovely. It’s yeah with the air conditioning still yeah, we’re out.Yeah, so horrible stupid (1:41:00) It was a cool 96 yesterday. Hey, do you had a cold front bro? It is fucking frigid (1:41:08) Sorry, uh, I just wonder how much of that (1:41:13) How much of dr. Freud’s theory is correct because he’s talking about (1:41:19) The you know stuff buried in the human (1:41:24) subconscious buried buried buried buried that maybe you and I can only access if (1:41:31) Let’s just say when we’re anonymous on social media.No, that was my point. No. No, that’s not my point at all (1:41:37) I’m saying these people are savage right that what I what I was trying to say about that is social media (1:41:42) We don’t the not we don’t the wisdom to use it in a nice, you know for everybody.We are animals on there (1:41:48) We are literal the most base people. Have you seen some of those comments from strangers? (1:41:53) That’s my point. Is that Freudian in my opinion? Okay (1:41:57) Okay, I got you.I’m completely I know I went off on a weird. Yeah (1:42:02) Let’s just say in a this is a horrible tangent. Let’s just say in a (1:42:08) in a fictional world in in a world in a world (1:42:12) One man tortilla boy, let’s say in a fictitional world in April of 2020 kovat killed half the population (1:42:20) Okay, so it’s kind of like the Stan Stephen King but different so in in let’s say (1:42:25) You and I were two of the survivors and let’s say the cell phone to God and you guys believe in God (1:42:31) Yeah, you guys let fucking woodsy and I fucking survive a fucking pandemic where half the people die (1:42:37) Fucking believe in God now, we’re bouncers at Jaguars.What is wrong with you? (1:42:41) So let’s just say but because of that 50 50% of the bouncers of Jaguars are dead. So (1:42:49) But the strippers doubled that was weird thank the gods Odin Zeus all of them. So anyway (1:42:56) Because of that there’s a massive ripple effect, right? So food productions down what you know water free implants start to die (1:43:03) So we’re talking about a borderline (1:43:08) Chaotic (1:43:10) Year like (1:43:13) Warfare in the streets civil not civil war but war you’re gonna starve to death (1:43:17) Right.So well, I mean unless he had enough canned stuff. Okay. Okay, so would people like you and I (1:43:25) Would those base? (1:43:27) Things that mr. Dr. Freud said are in us come out (1:43:32) Because we are now thrust into that situation this is a long-ass question Jesus fuck (1:43:39) Necessity is the mother of all creation or mother of all invention, right? (1:43:45) necessity dictates that so when (1:43:49) when some company with a smiley face on (1:43:53) The side of their truck drop something off next day and we’re like, oh my god (1:43:56) It’s so warm and fuzzy and feels so good when we have that (1:44:00) We’re soft as fuck bro agreed I (1:44:03) Totally get there’s no problem (1:44:06) When you’re one day away from probably starving to death or somebody some group with guns (1:44:14) That has everything and you don’t right? What do you do you? (1:44:20) It’s dr.Freud, right? I guess is the quality (1:44:24) yeah, because that your (1:44:27) Survival is the base need at that point and that (1:44:31) Supersedes all so is this okay. So subconscious is survival. He’s right.He felt it was dark and it’s true in (1:44:37) You can look at it from two very different ways (1:44:40) When with limited resources, which is what we’re probably talking about, correct? Whenever there’s something it’s limited resource whether it’s money food clothes (1:44:49) Whatever how the three things we need to survive Maslow’s heart (1:44:53) Hierarchy right Maslow’s heart all those when when you have that (1:44:59) Those need to be met when they are not met or when it’s limited you become greedy and you buy eight (1:45:05) Fucking pallets of toilet paper. I only bought three so don’t get don’t be judgy over there, bro (1:45:11) Right, but you understand and guess what if I were at the market the day that the run on the TP happened I (1:45:19) Probably would have bought five fucking boxes or something. Whatever like I probably would have (1:45:24) What? (1:45:26) Why wouldn’t I because I’m even with my enlightened like hey guys, let’s not panic everyone else’s (1:45:33) So what good is my non panic when everyone else is panicking? (1:45:37) You think you would have succumbed to the TP panic? (1:45:40) I believe I would if I were in (1:45:42) Costco the day that that was like people started grabbing off the shelf (1:45:45) I would have gotten in there and grabbed as many as I could it just makes that I think I would have I just (1:45:54) Not and once again (1:45:57) What what it is is the logic doesn’t dictate that however my logic that it’s illogical and that everyone else is gonna take it then (1:46:04) Takes over and goes.Well now it’s logical to be illogical. I totally understand (1:46:08) So it actually does it’s in itself once again another feedback loop. Maybe that’s why Freud saw that maybe that’s another part of it (1:46:15) Like that is that it the logic has to go out the window because and it reached a tipping point for the number of a (1:46:22) logical (1:46:25) Outnumber logical so you now no longer have control over logic because (1:46:31) It’s on the other side of that.You’re behind the power curve. Yeah (1:46:34) It’s my thought on that. I don’t know.What are your thoughts? I (1:46:38) understand your point and it’s a very good point that I (1:46:42) And I don’t I had not thought about if I was in that situation if I was in Costco the day the teepee went nuts (1:46:50) Would I what would I have done? I don’t I don’t know. I probably would have I don’t I don’t know (1:46:58) Honestly, I probably would have grabbed two full box like two packages of (1:47:04) But but I definitely would have grabbed it at least to (1:47:08) Absolutely to what I may have done (1:47:12) Guys I’m not a fucking saint here. Okay, so don’t I might have grabbed five and then (1:47:19) Say, you know as the run was happening (1:47:22) We’re talking and you just say oh man this fucking toilet paper thing.I would been like bro. You want some? (1:47:27) Yeah, right. I would obviously like but within my tribe (1:47:31) I mean, I wouldn’t fucking be offering it to my neighbor right off the bat, you know, right? (1:47:36) so (1:47:37) Once again, what’s interesting about doing starting this podcast for example is (1:47:43) I am a judgy prick.I’m a judgy prick Meg’s he’ll say it all day. Really not a bit (1:47:48) Well, I I take a stand (1:47:50) So when people say I see how I can work in taking you stand the same thing (1:47:54) Yeah (1:47:55) Cuz I put a judgment on pretty much everything (1:47:56) What I’ve what I’ve started to do is the put myself in their shoe thing (1:48:00) Like if I sit back and go god that run on toilet paper is really fucking stupid on its face (1:48:05) That was a stupid fucking thing. That was so dumb.It’s a true statement, right? However, is there anyone that thinks it’s not? (1:48:12) No, but had I been there and it happened and I got caught up in it (1:48:19) or was in there or was there while it was going on would I have allowed myself to be caught up in it and (1:48:27) That’s the difference because I can’t answer that unless it’s too hypothetical for me (1:48:31) I’d love to think that’d be like no one’s enough for me, but it was like, oh fuck everybody’s gone (1:48:37) Yeah, I would’ve been like shit. I’ll grab as many as I can get my hand on four of them. Okay, but did you not? (1:48:43) Watch the news at all or read anything about the symptoms of kovat (1:48:50) Intestinal (1:48:51) stuff and diarrhea (1:48:53) Which I hate the d-word is was not it actually was it not until later correct 40, but it turned out to be forty (1:49:00) was not (1:49:02) So in them in the in the TP.Yeah, the TV is right the TP era (1:49:07) Era era there was not it was all respiratory. Well, let’s be honest (1:49:12) The the run on the toilet paper made sense in its illogic (1:49:19) No, it did not in the beginning everyone. This is the fear that everything I wish you guys can see the look (1:49:25) I’m giving him right now because this is bullshit (1:49:26) Everything was gonna be shut down and they pretty much have to deliver us our meals (1:49:31) Like there was a point where that fear I never thought that once you didn’t bro.Go ahead (1:49:37) You’re not the mob the mob. You’re not the mob. Eh, hey, you’re not the mob (1:49:41) making all the camera feels (1:49:44) But my point is the biggest fear is that we were gonna be shut in (1:49:47) Well, what’s the one thing you can’t control at that point is how to clean your butt when you gotta go (1:49:54) Like it just makes total sense that toilet paper it see it doesn’t go bad (1:49:59) it (1:50:01) See, it’s pretty compact.It fits. It’s you’ll use it eventually even if you overbuy. I’m (1:50:07) I’m not agreeing with it, but I do see it.I don’t know who started it (1:50:11) I’d love to get there need to be a grant on that probably Karen. Where the hell did this conversation go? Oh (1:50:23) The human (1:50:26) Subconscious have (1:50:27) Horrible dark shit and did that horrible dark shit drive people to take too many teepees (1:50:35) I’ll use a bad analogy. Oh great.Here we go (1:50:38) but I used to play a lot of poker and I was not a very aggressive player and (1:50:44) It always bothered me when a hyper aggressive player or two would get on a table and sit with me (1:50:50) Because you don’t really have a choice of who you’re sitting with right? (1:50:54) But that (1:50:56) But the logic in me said that I can’t play my game with this type of thing going on around me I have to now (1:51:04) Adjust to something to counter that and it was very frustrating for me because it took me out of my comfort zone (1:51:10) and that’s how I would have perceived the toilet paper thing is like (1:51:15) My the logic in me knows that this is illogical (1:51:18) But it’s still happening regardless of whether I think it’s logical or not. So I better get in on it (1:51:24) So I can even not make it logic a logical statement to become illogical. I would have come to the same conclusion (1:51:34) That’s what’s kind of weird about it, right? (1:51:35) Like whether I was logical or illogical in that moment (1:51:38) I would have come to the same conclusion that I would have had to get a piece of it (1:51:43) Because the last thing you want is have nothing I mean, I understand.Yeah, I would have left I (1:51:51) Want nothing to do? (1:51:53) With idiots, well, I’m not talking about two people pulling on them like that (1:51:57) I’m just talking about like a line of people grabbing two or three. Yeah, I (1:52:01) envisioned the the TP area at Costco and I I don’t even want to be in that section with (1:52:09) Bunch of idiots calm. Do you know why? (1:52:13) Go tell me because you want to be in the part where they give you the little samples.Yeah, no shit (1:52:17) Where’s the sample section bitches at the end cap, please? (1:52:21) All the end caps on all the samples. Yes, give them to me some Chris Bix (1:52:27) All out to Christmas the real I’d better fucking pay us a month and Reese’s. Oh, yeah all the candies son of a bitch (1:52:34) Yes, please.Dear cheese, but I agree. I I do get your anti-confrontational ism (1:52:40) I don’t want is that anti-distance devil it bitch minty both. It’s not even about that.I just don’t want to be around (1:52:47) Idiots, it’s just that’s but that’s my life. I don’t want to be around it. It’s too late, bro (1:52:51) There’s about 330 million of us and no point seven billion of us.No, there’s 300 million in the country (1:52:58) 30 million. I would say you’re not idiots. Okay (1:53:02) Move along (1:53:04) My name be five five not five million (1:53:08) Just five million either.Give me five. How do I find those five? (1:53:17) I had a note. I the FDR started the New Deal to strengthen democracy.I don’t care (1:53:24) No shit. I don’t believe that is true. I believe that (1:53:30) The New Deal was to (1:53:33) Establish a stronger government (1:53:35) Okay (1:53:38) Thinking that government’s the answer but it never should be (1:53:42) If that so and I always I always found that interesting that (1:53:47) So he got elected in whatever (1:53:50) 32 I don’t even know (1:53:53) FDR yes, because remember he died in 40 died in 44, right and he was gonna serve till 46 (1:53:59) Yeah, so in 32 (1:54:02) So but so from 32 to 41, I’m sorry 48 (1:54:07) sure (1:54:08) so from 32 (1:54:11) To 41 we were in the Depression and the New Deal ran the whole time and we never got out of the Depression (1:54:18) so he kept getting reelected and yet we still weren’t I (1:54:24) Mean, I’ve read that we started to come out of the Depression like in 40 and 41 kind of well (1:54:29) They stopped the bleeding right, but it was the war effort that really got us out (1:54:33) It was us starting to in my opinion supply Britain.Yes. Yes with productivity his idea of the New Deal (1:54:41) Yes, it gave jobs to some Americans because the road projects and the dam and those things that’s Hoover Hoover (1:54:48) Damn, well, they named it Hoover Dam, but it wasn’t it was under Hoover, wasn’t it? (1:54:51) No, it wasn’t they named it after him, but it wasn’t it was under Roosevelt. Yes (1:54:54) I thought it was under Hoover negative.What year did Roosevelt’s are 32? Yeah. Oh, yeah, it would have been under Roosevelt then (1:55:00) Yes that so (1:55:02) The damn damn take as many pictures of the damn damn as you damn damn (1:55:06) So I just I’ve always thought that’s interesting is that he did all these things for all these years and we never got out of (1:55:11) The Depression yet. He kept getting reelected.So I would have thought that people would have kicked him out because it didn’t do any fucking good (1:55:20) well (1:55:22) 32 he’s elected (1:55:24) 29 was a crash. So they needed change, right? Yeah, but in 36 he gets reelected in a landslide, but we’re still in the Depression (1:55:33) 36 yeah (1:55:36) I (1:55:37) 32 is when it was really bad. Yeah, so I don’t know if it was worse after his after he got in (1:55:47) Right, I understand what was the lowest point I have no idea was a 33 probably sure (1:55:54) But say by 35 the bleeding just stopped.We’re like guys. We’re just getting through this one more. Let’s not go through too much change (1:56:01) I’ve got these other plans in place people believed in a little longer process to get maybe a plan in place (1:56:06) Of course, and then the war happened.So yeah, well Hitler was also coming to power at this point 33 33 by 36 (1:56:13) Had he not already when did he get into Poland 30 39 9, right? But Olympics was 36 (1:56:20) Yes in Berlin, so that was in Berlin. That’s where you saw the rise of Hitler and you’re like, yeah, you’re like, oh fuck (1:56:27) Correct, right. That’s where America probably is like oh shit.Yeah (1:56:31) Something’s gonna happen. Yeah, of course, so (1:56:34) Or they’re just stupid myopic people just told what to do, which is what we kind of always are. Okay, also (1:56:42) Also, Tamian also Tammy the tambourines have made all 37 tambourines.I also thought it was interesting that FDR started (1:56:49) the surveys of public opinion (1:56:52) Where mr. Gallup? (1:56:55) Yes, senior Edward (1:56:57) Johnson (1:56:59) Richard (1:57:01) Dicholas Gallup senior, I think you’re right. I have no idea. I think it’s Edward (1:57:08) Eduardo Corocio Gallup senior, let’s find out (1:57:13) Let’s go to the tape (1:57:17) I’m gonna say that it was the sky view (1:57:23) Edward Edward Gallup started George (1:57:26) Dude, fuck.Mr. Gallup and Elmo Roper. Mr. Senior (1:57:31) Whatever it’s George Gallup started a Gallup started pulling hence why the term Gallup pulling is now a thing (1:57:41) Jorge and and Elmo Roper Elmo (1:57:53) So they tried to (1:57:54) Different poll interview. Whoa, a lot of Americans to try to connect them to the federal government so that they thought they were (1:58:04) Involved with the decision-making of the government.That’s the point. That is a point and the Gallup poll still exists. That is correct (1:58:14) 1936 (1:58:16) Businesses thought they were (1:58:18) losing so to speak so they started the National Association of (1:58:22) Manufacturing because they wanted business they want a government to get out of businesses business (1:58:32) Do you ever wonder why you wonder (1:58:37) Ricky Schroeder’s thumb keep it down back.The point of it was that what the fuck was that pause about? (1:58:43) Was that a longer pause or was that a short pause? It felt long the last part (1:58:48) It was like 1.8 millisecond, it was really cool like four hours you were just being weird (1:58:54) So the point is that (1:58:56) Businesses in the mid 30s were trying to get their shit back together because the government was too involved with everything correct. So (1:59:02) businesses (1:59:03) tried to create an (1:59:06) emotional attachment of Americans to their products (1:59:09) So they basically used Edward Bernays and the public relations industry (1:59:16) They inserted their ideas into newspapers and in the government used films to fight back against this (1:59:22) Which was look like a joke from what I saw. It did look like it (1:59:25) But GM was really good at that using Oh (1:59:29) four inches (1:59:32) Longer, huh? Oh (1:59:34) Yeah, when the car came out this car looks longer this year four inches man like oh my god (1:59:40) 1936 you dirty bitch.That’s what that’s a total of my husband (1:59:47) Man (1:59:47) Some raunchy shit. It’s dirty back then. They just it was all innuendo, bro (1:59:52) my last note sir was that the (1:59:55) 1936 New York World’s Fair was entitled democracy and the American business democracy, bro (2:00:02) Since mr. Edward Bernays was the mastermind behind the whole thing (2:00:06) Yeah, link it the linking of democracy and capitalism.It was the really the end of that where it was the whole democracy (2:00:12) yes, sir, and he (2:00:15) basically claimed that the (2:00:19) Markets drove or people drove the market or the market drove the whatever capitalism. It was all driven by capitalism (2:00:25) It was all consumer driven all that shit (2:00:27) It made sense made sense and you know (2:00:31) The thing was he controlled who who and what they looked at and what they wanted. So was it really free? (2:00:38) In a way no (2:00:39) It seemed like it wasn’t it’s kind of weird (2:00:42) Anyway, he was almost controlling their thoughts in a way because you you were (2:00:48) You you were purchasing things not because you needed them bit because you felt good (2:00:54) About yourself when you bought them.Yes, and that to me when I when I when I watch this I thought to myself (2:01:00) That’s actually the creation of a shopaholic (2:01:04) because that that’s just the consumer it’s a drug like heroin or alcohol or (2:01:12) sex or (2:01:13) Hair, you know, whatever your drug of choices (2:01:15) It’s like you when you go to the mall and you buy something you feel good for a moment and then it’s gone (2:01:21) It’s fleeting, right? (2:01:23) Well, then you got to go buy something again. Yeah, and next thing, you know, you’re $20,000 in debt (2:01:27) well that term consumptionism that they can absolutely and and to your point, well, that’s what’s really funny about it because (2:01:34) Freud talked about just suffering (2:01:37) But if you talk about Buddha once again linking connection to suffering (2:01:41) Yeah. Yeah, so (2:01:43) Bernays gets people to buy shit because he gets them to feel something for it (2:01:49) Now they buy it now.They’re attached to it the attachment itself creates suffering and (2:01:56) You need to do it over and over again the cycle. It needs to be bigger next time (2:02:02) It needs to go from shoes to a purse to a whole outfit to a car (2:02:08) To a house to a boat, you know, it has to grow it won’t ever be it’s never enough (2:02:15) It’s a hole that will never be for correct (2:02:18) because (2:02:21) What’s the one thing? (2:02:24) That humans want everything (2:02:28) more sex bots (2:02:30) More okay, like simply more because whatever you have (2:02:35) It is your innate nature (2:02:38) To want more absolutely and it can be more of anything. Absolutely.I have all this free time (2:02:43) You know some people like well, I don’t put it in money, but it doesn’t have to be money sense. It’s some resource. It’s (2:02:51) time fame (2:02:52) Popularity.Yeah money. Yeah, it could be jewels. It could be more like it could be all of it (2:02:59) Right.Yeah, but the one thing humans. Oh, this is why (2:03:03) giving things to people (2:03:06) Doesn’t solve the problem because once it’s given it’s like the hierarchy the Maslow’s hierarchy, right? (2:03:11) Same thing Maslow’s hierarchy. Once you have these certain innate things covered you start going to the next sub category of (2:03:19) Comfort.So now we’re at comfort and then you go to the next sub category of oh, what’s even below that? (2:03:25) What’s it and you just keep get you keep drilling down. You will always want more. Yeah, and (2:03:33) They they really plugged into that (2:03:36) It took me a long time to figure out that (2:03:39) Material things don’t make me happy (2:03:40) Took me a long long time law.It’s recent for me five years tops. No, not even five years probably in (2:03:50) 1993 (2:03:51) Ducati came out with my favorite motorcycle the 916 and I had that beautiful picture it revolutionized (2:03:58) The motorcycle industry the pipes were tucked underneath the back the back seat. It was magnificent (2:04:03) They redesigned it a few times and then finally in oh five.I got the 998 (2:04:10) Looked basically the same bigger engine and it was she was magnificent. Just (2:04:16) Just beautiful (2:04:18) Turned on a dime tons of horsepower and then I got home and I was like, oh (2:04:25) Didn’t make you know, I spent $11,000 on a bike and (2:04:29) Didn’t make me happy. Oh (2:04:32) Yeah, it’s but you know, I waited for that bike for 12 years (2:04:36) 12 years 312 years.Yes, but you know, it took me 12 years of wanting this Ducati and (2:04:45) Then oh shit (2:04:47) Kind of sucks, but I you know learned my lesson, right? What year was that again? Oh five (2:04:53) We know we were feeling different things back then. Well, yeah, but at least I learned it somewhat (2:04:58) No, you learned I mean action. Yeah, which is huge, but that’s not usually the problem.The problem is getting out of the loop (2:05:07) true like (2:05:09) You know, the first step to recovery is recognizing the problem. Yeah, that’s when I figured it out (2:05:14) You and I having right you and I having suicidal ideations. Well, that’s not good either isn’t good (2:05:20) recognizing that we have them is a start and (2:05:23) Then we go.Okay. Well, how do we just at least stop thinking that now? (2:05:27) We’re better, but some people don’t take that for a second step. They just go (2:05:30) I know I constantly have this thought in my head and I’m just fighting it all day (2:05:34) That’s really where Freud I feel like Freud was like we are one (2:05:38) We are one bad nap or one bad sleep away from (2:05:43) construction (2:05:46) Complete irrationality like all you need is that little what’s a little hiccup and thought that little (2:05:52) Yeah, I need that extra half hour of sleep because I’m a little tired and I’m not fighting this urge anymore (2:05:57) Yeah, I’ll pick up.I’ll punch today instead of I’ll hit you with my car instead of let you in. I (2:06:03) mean (2:06:05) He’s not incorrect per se it doesn’t mean he’s right but he’s not he’s definitely not wrong because we’ve seen this in humanity (2:06:13) We’ve seen it (2:06:14) It makes me very sad (2:06:17) Right. I really want to believe them.I really want to believe the best in people and that’s why we’re doing this (2:06:23) Because you and I do believe the best in people we want we want justice and we want people to (2:06:28) feel like they’re connected to to weirdos like you and I’m in and (2:06:34) And do we just need a couple more people here and there to to listen and grow and that’s what we do, bro (2:06:43) Anything else on mr. Bernice I have one final comment, but I’ll wait till you’re done (2:06:48) No, I just had a engineering of consent was the big the big kind of term towards the end of the first part (2:06:55) But it is the title of the second part (2:06:57) so we’ll probably watch that and then and discuss that but yes the engineering of consent like (2:07:03) He got he got to (2:07:06) manufacture you to agree (2:07:08) That’s what that is like disturbing. That’s (2:07:11) absolute control he (2:07:13) manufactured (2:07:14) Your agreement to him with him or whatever. That’s just the term alone sounds sounds slimy (2:07:22) Yeah (2:07:24) So that’s all I got what you got (2:07:26) My final thought is I thought it was ironic or whatever your word you want to use that (2:07:30) The show is called century of the self and (2:07:36) What does everyone do now take selfies (2:07:40) I knew you’re gonna connect that so this gun jumper (2:07:47) So this I you know this century of self the thing was released (2:07:51) 18 years ago.Yeah the term selfie. I don’t know when that came out. It was not well (2:07:56) The iPhone came out in whatever.Oh five or something. So yeah, this is 2002 bro, right? (2:08:01) So in oh to this this this show came out on BBC (2:08:06) Maybe had a camera maybe (2:08:09) Hardly, but it no one took pictures yet. Nobody took pictures of themselves like that (2:08:13) There was there was no smart information like hey pick up this milk from the fucking store (2:08:18) So it was I mean there may have been a camera it was made with the term selfie had not come out correct (2:08:24) But it’s I find it very (2:08:27) Ironic’s not the right word, but the fact the show was called this and how (2:08:33) consumerism was created and how emotion is attached to (2:08:40) Okay (2:08:41) Go ahead (2:08:42) September 2002 is when the term selfie was coined now (2:08:46) We have to look at when BBC put out century of self, but that’s what’s funny to your point (2:08:51) But keep keep going because Australian man invented the selfie after a drunken night out fuck that guy (2:08:58) you drunk fuck (2:09:01) Hey, hello to the world this drunk Australian fuck started selfies (2:09:08) And we talked about this because we talked about the century self now that you brought it up you just open that Pandora’s box (2:09:13) I’m sorry, you’re welcome something pop both of them.Yeah, that was my shoulder. I thought it was your back (2:09:20) It’s spinal my back. So it’s definitely spinal.I can feel my toes. I’m okay. Okay good (2:09:25) Well, so finish your thought about the selfie in the center, I just think it’s incredibly that in a hundred years ago this guy started (2:09:34) Steering people towards (2:09:37) buying things and doing things to increase the (2:09:42) the (2:09:43) The money in the pockets of the rich bait.Basically, that’s the very short version, right? So (2:09:52) and (2:09:53) That’s never changed (2:09:54) You when we talked about and the irony of the fact that you mentioned (2:09:58) Oh, hey, let’s buy more cell phones every fucking six months that have a reverse camera to take a selfie (2:10:06) That’s absurd and not only like it’s better than any fucking camera (2:10:12) ever (2:10:14) 4k in your hand fucking to me. You said it on the podcast a couple of the weeks ago (2:10:18) Yeah, you said 4k in the palm of your hand (2:10:21) It’s unbelievable, I mean like the quality of evil so I (2:10:27) Looked up century of self. Yeah, March (2:10:29) through April of 2002 so (2:10:31) six months prior (2:10:33) So they should get credit.They should get credit now. What’s what’s interesting though is they talk about century of the self? (2:10:41) however (2:10:42) Bernays (2:10:44) Only looked at what drives individuals in groups (2:10:50) Yes, so really (2:10:53) As we watch this show because it does change right the philosophies change (2:10:56) They don’t they move away from Bernays to someone else and they go back and they go back and then they go back again (2:11:01) They go back on going back. Yeah, so there’s a lot of changes that we’ll talk about but at this point (2:11:06) We’ve got this one thought but now going forward it would have been the mob mentality like (2:11:14) It’s so individualized now again (2:11:17) So I it’s weird how it but when you saw him as a group when you look at (2:11:23) Selfies a lot of times.It’s not just one person, right? (2:11:27) It’s a lot. It’s a group of 22 year old girls in Scottsdale and there’s five of them at a bar (2:11:32) But they have to be in it. Oh, of course (2:11:35) That’s the point like the one I think we talked about on the previous who was a gentleman who was in orbit around the moon (2:11:41) Wow, yeah.Yeah. Yeah, right so that he took a picture John orbiter (2:11:47) Orbiter (2:11:49) Know his name. So his name is John, right? (2:11:52) Johnny quest (2:11:53) Maybe is Raj.Yes. No, no (2:11:59) Cougar Dr. Sheldon Cooper. I was gonna say Cougar Polly (2:12:03) Rajesh Cougar Polly.Do you remember did you ever watch that? Yeah big man (2:12:07) Do you remember the was it the first or second one where like he’s like, yeah (2:12:10) You can tell your phone to call somebody’s like call Leonard Hofstadter and it rings his phone and he goes call Raj (2:12:16) Calling but and they keep getting wrong. He goes, let me try a crawl flippity-floppity flops and he’s like calling Raj (2:12:22) Dr. Polly it is like even distinct racist or something. I forget it’s really fun.I (2:12:29) Don’t recall that scene, but sure show that was a shit (2:12:35) Anyway, it’s super to Howard Howard (2:12:38) Put a Howard. I gotta go to the store ma and his Nicholas Cage (2:12:45) Fun. No, I’m not scenes.How is Nicholas Cage? Yours is fantastic (2:12:50) More like treasure protector if your Nicholas Cage is my try fast near your Nicholas Cage is right underneath your check mark (2:12:58) Oh my check mark is good (2:12:59) Yes (2:13:00) My check mark is probably best probably best impression because it’s not really trying to sound like exactly someone just in general check mark (2:13:08) Yeah, it sounds like check mark. Yeah, not like I’m not trying to sound like mr. Hanks or mr (2:13:14) Rita mr. Pete (2:13:17) My Rita impression delicious (2:13:21) Anyways (2:13:23) It’s so funny so John or checkmark is around check mark check mark (2:13:28) How is that turkey burger last week? It was delicious (2:13:31) It’s on page three and the menu only had two pages on fuck zips. So the third menu, please (2:13:37) Where is this thing? Where is this burger of Turkey? I don’t understand.Anyway, John orbiter go (2:13:42) Yeah, John orbiter is like boom (2:13:43) They take a picture of the earth and it’s like this is the picture of everyone in every human (2:13:50) Save three. Yeah, and in today’s fucking shuttle that shit would have been saved too because that motherfucker would have been in that shot (2:13:58) You know, he would have been like hey bitches holding his arm out with his little fucking selfie stick (2:14:02) He’s like he’s like can even carry that extra weight on the shuttle. I probably could know it would’ve been paperclip (2:14:07) He would add to hold his arm out.Yeah a (2:14:09) Little duct tape little MacGyver action. Yeah (2:14:12) But yeah, it’s totally true and it’s crazy to think that was only (2:14:17) 50 years ago. Yeah (2:14:21) 50 and in 50 years we went from I (2:14:26) Want to be an observer of the world to be I want to be part of the observation of the world (2:14:30) Yeah, I want to be part of how others observe the world like I’m important.Mm-hmm. I’m important in this. Yeah (2:14:41) It’s an interesting thought man (2:14:44) We’ve got like two more of these to do and we’re like over two hours.This is what always happens, dude (2:14:49) I know. Hey, let’s do some podcast tomorrow. Yes.Sure. We’re gonna do two (2:14:52) We’re gonna do a half of one team dipshit. Okay, part two of this is tomorrow.That’ll be 14 hours. Yeah (2:14:59) Well, what do we have any finishing thoughts? No, sir. What was your final thought on the selfie? I (2:15:06) Love that thought about I mean the thought about it is very true (2:15:10) The thought that you knew I was gonna have the thought is disturbing (2:15:13) Well, I kind of got you pinned a little bit (2:15:15) I could probably Bernice you a little bit if I wanted to fuck that I gotta go (2:15:19) I know and you knew I was gonna you knew in the teepee day.I wasn’t gonna go to it (2:15:23) He was like, there’s no fucking way. He’s going to the store that day (2:15:25) well, I didn’t even know I’m just saying if I was there when the rush happened because I (2:15:30) Somebody had to started the rush so it didn’t just exist (2:15:34) It wasn’t like ready set go like rush. Yeah (2:15:38) Someone started it and then it blew up, right? (2:15:41) So if I were happen to be there as the commotion was happening, I’ve been like, maybe I’ll sneak off me (2:15:47) palette (2:15:50) Probably I’d be a greedy bitch.I bought like 22 Folgers is on sale (2:15:56) Well, the thing is I go through one a month. I didn’t buy 22 of them (2:16:00) I was like you have two years of coffee. I bought ten of them (2:16:04) But they’re good for like five year dude, they’re vacuum sealed and shit (2:16:06) they’re good for like ever but my point is it’ll be gone in less than a year and I saved a (2:16:13) Lot on each one.So why not have a year’s worth of coffee and not worry about it (2:16:17) How do you even have room in the kitchen? There’s not much room in the kitchen anymore (2:16:21) because I’ve got (2:16:23) Folgers cans all over the because you have like a package of crackers a can of tuna and coffee (2:16:29) 400 pallets of coffee. I (2:16:34) don’t know bro (2:16:36) hoarder (2:16:38) Thank Thank Ricky Schroeder slum. Yes, that was an excellent point.That’s right. He’s brilliant. And on that note, dr.Richard (2:16:46) We’ll have to have the whole explanation of that I know we kind of did I think we did so he throws it up the (2:16:52) Elevator shaft. Yeah catch man to Ben. What’s his name? Blue Diamond Phillips slash (2:16:58) slash Edward James Olmos slash (2:17:00) Who’s Jimmy Smith’s the other guy Benjamin Benjamin not but it’s not Browder by the way (2:17:08) Gosh, darn it.Please don’t hurt me. But anyway, I’m not gonna so we’re gonna close it (2:17:13) We got how many more of these we doing today? 16 3 3 more. All right.Well, thanks so much for listening guys (2:17:19) Thanks y’all. This has been another Knocked Conscious (2:17:22) We talked about the first part or part one of the century of self and it was called happiness machines (2:17:29) That was what it was. That’s what we are (2:17:31) We’ll put the link on YouTube or the YouTube link at the air in the show notes (2:17:36) Yes, sir.Am I correct babbling or no on the iTunes notes? (2:17:40) You’ll see the YouTube link to century of the self ding go team. Check me go check mark. Hey guys (2:17:46) Thanks so much for listening in we’re gonna record a couple more of these (2:17:49) Have a great day, make sure you go knockedconscious.com check us out at knocked con on Twitter (2:17:56) Thanks so much guys, we’ll talk to you guys later