Mark discusses a few topics on his mind. He also takes some questions from chat.
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(0:06) Welcome, welcome, welcome, everybody. (0:09) Hello. (0:11) Today, I’m doing an impromptu (0:14) podcast again, just because we had to reschedule the (0:18) I think we’re waiting for Scott Horton to come on for the last (0:21) episode of the provoked book review.(0:24) So for anyone who might be joining us, thank you. (0:27) I will be talking about some weird stuff and hopefully have (0:29) some Q&A stuff. (0:30) So I got to pull up (0:31) anyone jumping on the comments.(0:33) Come on on there. (0:35) Ask any questions you like. (0:37) I’m going to start with a little bit of a recap on we talked (0:41) about free will Jason.(0:43) I talked about free will last week, but (0:46) actually I probably should wait till we get a couple people (0:48) couple eyes on this because we’ve had some breaking news (0:51) this week (0:52) in regards to (0:55) Consciously Unmasked (0:56) but (0:58) basically (1:00) what’s what happened was one of our one of our people that (1:05) very big engager on our show. (1:08) I don’t want to mention who that is unless they want to (1:10) take the credit for it. (1:13) I’m not here to talk some (1:14) but basically they jumped on with chat GPT (1:18) and they had an interesting conversation.(1:21) Now, I (1:22) am not good with like negative reversal words and not good (1:27) with the verbiage stuff. (1:28) I’m better in a (1:31) talking sense and I am in a reading (1:34) and a writing sense of them. (1:35) If that makes any (1:37) if anyone can comprehend that (1:39) so basically (1:40) discussion on free will determinism and rationality (1:44) what I might do.(1:45) I might put this on a link or something to add it to the (1:48) thing. (1:49) But basically (1:51) the user asked Chad GPT (1:53) in order for reasoning to occur. (1:55) You typically need to consider and evaluate different options (1:58) as the process of reasoning involves weighing various (2:01) perspectives evidence and potential outcomes before (2:05) reaching a conclusion.(2:07) This means actively choosing between different possible (2:09) interpretations or solutions to a problem. (2:12) Is this a true statement? (2:14) The assistant (2:15) that would be Chad GPT (2:17) I’m assuming (2:18) yes, this is a true statement reasoning fundamentally (2:21) involves evaluating multiple possibilities comparing (2:25) evidence and weighing different perspectives before arriving (2:28) at a conclusion. (2:29) This process requires actively considering various (2:33) interpretations or solutions to a problem (2:35) analyzing their strengths (2:36) and weaknesses (2:38) and making a judgment based on logic evidence or principles (2:41) without alternative options to assess (2:44) there would be no need for reasoning decisions would be (2:47) automatic rather than reasoned.(2:50) Now, that’s very interesting. (2:51) So we can go right into that (2:53) many people there was an example that I used (2:57) in regards to that. (2:59) If you’ve ever dropped something and caught it (3:02) you definitely (3:04) caught it before you realized (3:06) you caught the object.(3:09) So (3:10) that doesn’t have any reasoning but you could have (3:14) let it fall. (3:16) I’m assuming you could have let it fall but your instincts (3:19) jumped in and did that so I don’t know if that’s a free (3:21) will or instinct kind of thing (3:23) but (3:24) it’s very interesting. (3:25) So I will continue a little bit of this because it gets (3:28) deeper and deeper and it’s three whole pages (3:31) and I don’t want it’s not eight pages front and back like (3:34) Ross’s paper to Rachel or Rachel’s to Ross.(3:38) But it goes on (3:40) the user (3:42) if one has a materialistic or deterministic worldview (3:46) and as such believes that humans have no free will (3:49) is it logistically possible (3:51) for that person to believe in or be able to trust in their (3:55) own reasoning (3:56) as where it gets a little tricky (3:59) because (4:00) if there’s no free will (4:03) every (4:04) decision is predetermined (4:06) then the question is can one trust their own reasoning? (4:12) Okay, the assistant says this is a deep philosophical (4:14) question (4:15) that has been debated extensively as someone holds a (4:18) strict materialistic determine deterministic worldview (4:20) believing that all thoughts beliefs and reasoning processes (4:24) are purely the result of predetermined physical (4:26) processes (4:27) then this raises a challenge. (4:29) Can they trust their reasoning as a reliable guide to truth (4:32) or is it merely a product of deterministic causation? (4:38) Now (4:39) this is the thing (4:40) even if there is no free will and you act (4:44) you can reason the act on the back end. (4:48) I go to tribalism.(4:50) We talk about (4:52) politics, for example. (4:53) How many times do you side with your side politically (4:57) and you find the reasoning after? (4:59) Let’s I mean (5:01) I don’t want to hash up old stuff. (5:03) Remember the whole they let him grab you by the butt (5:07) and everyone seemed to ignore that when they voted for the (5:10) guy which is totally fine.(5:11) You know what I mean if that’s how you want to do it, (5:14) but you know that kind of thing would be an example of (5:17) that or like obviously Bill Clinton Obama shit didn’t stink (5:21) Joe Biden wasn’t a demented prick (5:24) in any way (5:26) bro (5:29) Zach already starting heavy. (5:31) I’m not going to how many minutes are we in? (5:33) All right, we’re five and a half and I’m not going to get (5:35) kicked off of YouTube yet. (5:36) So I’ll put it up there.(5:39) Welcome Zach. (5:40) Thanks for joining us, buddy. (5:43) I’m not going to read it.(5:45) I’m just going to put it up there. (5:48) So we’re going to talk about that in a second. (5:52) No, bro (5:56) today.(5:57) What was it today? (5:58) He said it. (5:59) I’m going to pull it up. (6:00) Don’t make don’t make me share my screen.(6:03) Don’t make me do it. (6:04) I’ll do it. (6:05) I will share my screen my friend.(6:07) All right, anyway, (6:08) so basically what we’re talking about is can one trust their (6:12) own reasoning? (6:12) Now, I (6:14) if if reasoning is the is what happens after the act (6:20) as in one reasons their acts. (6:23) They do it on the back end, right? (6:25) So it still is reasoned even if it’s not (6:29) free done freely (6:31) if the if does that make sense? (6:33) So even if the act isn’t of a free will nature one can still (6:37) reason the act on the back end and go. (6:39) Yeah, of course it was falling.(6:40) I caught it. (6:41) That’s why that’s why I reached out for it and it could be a (6:44) knife or something. (6:45) You might even cut yourself.(6:45) You dropped or something, but your instincts kind of kick in (6:48) and do that. (6:50) Anyway, (6:51) so (6:52) Zach saying I got IDS over here, but I’m I’m going to do (6:56) it man. (6:56) I have to I pulled it up earlier today.(6:59) All right, I’m going to do it. (7:00) We’re jumping right in. (7:02) Thanks a lot, Zach.(7:04) Thanks a lot. (7:05) Maybe they already deleted it. (7:08) No, there it is.(7:09) All right. (7:09) Let me pull this beautiful thing up. (7:14) I want to make sure that I’m going to get this.(7:24) Perhaps I’m not getting this right. (7:26) Anyway, (7:27) so (7:28) today (7:29) Mr. (7:30) BB or maybe it was yesterday. (7:32) Maybe when he was talking about what’s his face (7:34) was talking about (7:38) I forget what he was saying.(7:40) He was saying about (7:42) what was it? (7:43) Oh, that’s right. (7:45) So this morning I hear (7:47) that BB said something like (7:49) we must finish the job against (7:53) and I swear to God. (7:55) I was just going to hear (7:56) Hamas.(7:57) We must finish the job against Hamas. (8:01) And the next word out of his mouth was (8:04) we must finish the job against (8:07) Iran (8:08) and welcome Justin. (8:10) How you doing buddy? (8:11) So (8:13) yeah, we all do have IDS there (8:15) Zach.(8:16) So welcome (8:18) Zach and Justin, Justin and Zach. (8:20) Once again, I’m going through free will (8:22) and (8:23) basically the we got we’re at the point (8:26) on the first page of this thing, (8:28) which is just ridiculous in length not ridiculous in (8:31) thought. (8:32) It’s actually very deep in thought.(8:33) I don’t even know if I can keep up with it, (8:35) but (8:36) in this (8:38) basically (8:40) determinism. (8:40) Can you have can you trust your reasoning? (8:42) And like I said, if you’re reasoning on the back end (8:46) then I think that you can actually (8:49) reason (8:50) your (8:52) non-free will predeterministic (8:54) action. (8:56) Right? (8:56) If that makes any kind of sense.(8:58) So (8:59) I’m hoping you guys can have any questions. (9:02) I know (9:03) here comes Zach and he’s come with shenanigans. (9:05) So today (9:07) I was not informed on any news day or anything going on with (9:11) the news.(9:11) So I apologize. (9:12) I’m a little bit behind. (9:13) I threw this together just because I wanted to make sure (9:16) that (9:17) we had something going on because like I said, (9:20) I miss you guys.(9:21) I miss talking everybody and we had one planned again today, (9:24) but it’s a good news bad news thing, but very busy people (9:28) create another delay in our in our last podcast (9:32) episode, which is fine because (9:35) it’s a good reason that we have to delay it for good things. (9:39) So (9:40) anyway, (9:41) so (9:41) here we are. (9:44) Good evening.(9:45) Tune in and let’s mock this. (9:47) I’m reading through (9:48) through X right now. (9:50) Zach sent something here.(9:56) Wow. (9:56) Oh, they don’t like me. (9:57) Our means anti-semitic (10:01) is that’s what’s happening means are anti-semitic now.(10:05) We always blame Sean man. (10:07) We always blame Sean, but it’s not Sean’s fault. (10:10) It’s not anyone’s fault, but (10:11) all right.(10:12) So once again, I was talking about free will (10:15) and the problem with reasoning under determinism. (10:19) There are three (10:21) pieces (10:23) that came up with this chat GPT thing. (10:25) So once again, there is someone who did put this together.(10:28) They put a lot of time into it. (10:29) I don’t want to say who that person was unless they want (10:31) to take credit and share it who they were. (10:33) That’s totally fine.(10:35) But basically reasoning under determinism one deterministic (10:38) thought processes. (10:39) If every thought is determined by physical causes (10:43) eg brain chemistry neural activity genetics environment (10:46) rather than by individuals rational deliberation (10:50) then reasoning is not a free truth-seeking activity, but (10:55) a process dictated by prior physical States. (11:00) Well, that’s fine.(11:02) You it still would be reasoning. (11:03) You just reason on the back end. (11:04) There’s just no reason prior to actually doing it.(11:06) So there’s no meaning behind the reason I guess (11:09) unless maybe reason I’m not defining it properly. (11:12) Maybe there’s a slightly different skewed version of (11:15) reason the second point reliability of reasoning if reasoning (11:20) is fully determined by non-rational physical forces, then (11:24) one might question whether their conditions are aimed at (11:27) truth or merely inevitable output of physical causes. (11:31) So basically they’re not talking about it actually being (11:33) right or wrong, but just having a certain outcome.(11:36) Okay, third part self refutation risk. (11:40) I hope I read read that correctly some argue that if all (11:44) beliefs including the belief determinism itself are determined (11:47) by non-rational causes then no belief can be trusted as (11:51) rational rationally justified that would make a lot of sense. (11:55) So those are the pieces of this.(11:58) Once again, this thing’s like three whole pages. (12:00) It is really indeed in depth and I’m just reading it now. (12:04) So I’m just trying to catch up.(12:06) Hey, I am for I am just jumped on. (12:08) How do y’all how you doing man? (12:10) I’m just gloviating right now. (12:12) So if anybody has any questions, I really have no idea what (12:15) I’m talking about.(12:15) I’m just recapping free will someone went through a lot (12:18) of time to put this pretty cool thing together talking with (12:23) chat GBT about free will and determinism. (12:26) So I read off some of it. (12:28) I’m going to continue reading it and then break off in between.(12:31) But once again, this thing is three whole pages. (12:33) I’m only a half a page in so here comes another piece possible (12:38) counter arguments from Determinists about reasoning evolution (12:43) and pragmatism. (12:45) Some Determinists argue that while reasoning is determined (12:48) by physical processes, those processes have been shaped by (12:52) natural selection to be reliable because true beliefs generally (12:57) have survival value.(13:00) That’s a very interesting one. (13:01) I just watched a video where they talk about the subconscious (13:06) as putting an overlay because we are not always told the truth. (13:11) We’re told what gets us surviving.(13:13) Sometimes those two pieces actually do counter counteract. (13:17) It’s kind of like what problem with the AI thing is what we (13:20) call alignment is if we’re not on the same goals, if we have (13:25) different goals, we’re going to have very very different outcome. (13:28) So anyway, so I’m playing a little bit with the banner.(13:33) So I apologize if the scroll is too much or anything. (13:36) If you want me to turn it off, I’m happy to do it. (13:38) I’m just kind of messing around with different things today.(13:41) So welcome everybody who’s jumped on. (13:43) So we’re going to go continue with some free will determinism (13:50) computational view of mind. (13:52) Some would argue that reasoning can still be reliable even if (13:57) deterministic just as a computer which operates deterministically (14:00) can process logic correctly.(14:02) So that would make a lot of sense that even if it is a determined (14:08) process like turning ones and zeros on a computer, we have it (14:15) could still be a process. (14:16) It still does have rational behind it or rationale behind it (14:22) or rationalism behind it. (14:24) So or reasoning I guess is the right word.(14:27) So last piece will be the compatibilism argument. (14:31) Some determinists hold a compatibilist view arguing that rational (14:34) deliberation is compatible with determinism because the ability (14:38) to consider alternatives is still part of what we call reasoning. (14:43) So what I think what we talked about free will was having the (14:46) ability and the means to make a different decision and still not (14:53) make that decision.(14:55) So a lot of times what happens is you have one or the other but (14:58) not both and you need both to even see if free will is a thing (15:02) and we got really deep in that with with Jason last time. (15:06) So, oh, I like it. (15:08) It’s it’s it’s almost official man.(15:11) I was going to put all the stuff across but I’m like I started (15:15) a little bit behind so apologies, but welcome to everybody (15:19) who joined us. (15:20) We’re just doing an impromptu Q&A talking about the day some (15:25) crazy stuff happened over the weekend. (15:27) Heard some weird rumors.(15:29) I don’t want to share any of them too badly because I heard a lot (15:33) heard about Elon having siring another child possibly or something. (15:39) I’m very confused about it, but I love people are like, hey, is (15:43) it true? (15:44) Is it even true that this happened? (15:46) And I’m like, I think the bigger question is, is it even any (15:49) of our business whether this happened or not? (15:51) Right? (15:52) Like let’s be honest. (15:55) There’s something nice about privacy about like letting people (15:58) live their lives and I guess something blew up over the weekend (16:02) about that.(16:03) So thank you. (16:04) I am for am like Savannah. (16:06) I appreciate that.(16:07) I will up. (16:08) I will add some other stuff. (16:09) So hopefully it won’t be too busy.(16:11) It won’t be like a Bloomberg or like Idiocracy. (16:15) Everybody remember Idiocracy one of the one of the greatest (16:18) movies of all time. (16:19) First of all, Mike judge.(16:22) There’s something I don’t know. (16:26) It’s like a vision and I don’t know how people tap into it. (16:29) I don’t know how people take it to another step.(16:32) But if you have not seen Idiocracy. (16:35) With Dax Shepard and Maya Rudolph and Terry Crews and one of the (16:43) Wilson brothers Owen Luke Luke. (16:46) I always get those two mix up.(16:47) I know what you’re talking about. (16:49) I can do Owen Wilson really well. (16:52) What do you mean? (16:53) No, we’re going to go be interns at Google and we’re going (16:57) to be cool man.(16:59) That’s my Owen Wilson. (17:01) I think Luke. (17:03) I don’t do is such a good Luke Wilson.(17:06) Once again Idiocracy great movie. (17:08) Thank you Justin for for agreeing with that. (17:11) So that’s true more kids better.(17:15) We have a population. (17:17) Okay, so once again going on to free will here’s the conclusion (17:22) that came between that last question that we talked about. (17:25) If a person believes the reasoning is merely result a deterministic (17:30) non-rational physical processes, then they face a logical challenge (17:34) in justifying trust in their reasoning.(17:37) However, determinists attempt to resolve this by appealing to (17:40) evolution computational models or compatibilities compatibilism (17:46) compatibilism. (17:47) Gosh, that’s like the worst word ever. (17:50) Whether these solutions are satisfactory is a matter of philosophical (17:55) debate.(17:57) So would you agree that this presents a potential self-refutation (18:00) issue or do you think determinism still allows for trustworthy (18:04) reasoning? (18:06) So once again, if it is deterministic, I do think you can have (18:11) reasoning. (18:11) It’s just the reasonings done after the fact not before now of (18:15) reasoning only means you have to make choices prior to an act (18:19) then it wouldn’t right? (18:21) So let the computational model make sense. (18:24) So there’s a lot of things to that.(18:28) It’s got electrolytes. (18:31) It’s got electrolytes man. (18:35) So, oh, that’s a good one to watch Limitless.(18:41) That is one of that’s a great movie to if I’m not going to spoil (18:46) it. (18:46) Basically, if anyone’s familiar with Limitless is there’s a pill (18:50) that opens up one’s mind and their IQ like triples or does some (18:55) it just becomes Limitless and then they get really smart and then (19:01) stupid really bad people take it and then they get smart and but (19:05) they’re bad. (19:06) It’s fun and it’s funny because I thought the bad guy in that.(19:10) I don’t know if you guys remember the bad guy in Limitless with (19:13) the accent. (19:14) And I thought he was the voice of Star Wars minute the Phantom (19:19) Menace. (19:20) I thought he was the guy who had Anakin is a slave the one that (19:24) talks like this.(19:26) What do you mean Annie? (19:28) What do you mean? (19:29) You’re my slave Annie. (19:30) I thought that was the same guy. (19:32) I actually did believe that but I looked it up and I don’t think (19:35) it’s the same guy, but he does sound like him.(19:38) Anyway, so all right, there we go. (19:44) Here comes Zach. (19:46) Why is it that can all of life be summed up to the movie? (19:52) The searchers what which ones that I think I clicked the wrong (19:56) thing.(19:56) I think I was supposed to click. (20:00) I don’t know which one the searchers is. (20:02) Does anyone anyone know about that? (20:07) The tropics.(20:09) AI plugged into the brain be like Limitless pill. (20:12) It might well, we’re going to have New Orleans coming right (20:15) everybody. (20:16) So we’re talking simulation.(20:17) We talked simulation Theory with Jason the last Thursday. (20:22) Oh, all right. (20:25) The searchers happen to be John’s Wayne’s greatest film.(20:28) I did not know that. (20:31) Zach you got you shared your four favorite films. (20:34) They’re all Westerns of some sort.(20:37) I love you, man. (20:38) I love you. (20:40) I just don’t understand them.(20:42) It’s not it’s not that I don’t understand the lore. (20:46) I think they’re cool as all get out. (20:49) But like 310 to Yuma unforgiven even unforgiven to me.(20:53) I don’t know. (20:54) I thought I knew was okay. (20:55) But obviously that was a weird one with hat was a hackman in (20:58) Sharon Stone was a crazy but unforgiven was amazing.(21:01) But even then I’m just not a country Western movie guy. (21:06) So I apologize. (21:07) I am a simpleton.(21:09) I grew up a little bit older. (21:11) So I grew up on Rambos and and get to the chopper get to the (21:16) chopper and Terminators and sci-fi stuff aliens and all the (21:21) good stuff like that. (21:25) Anyway, (21:28) I’m going to pull this down here.(21:29) So what do we have? (21:34) There you go. (21:37) All right. (21:39) Continuing the user continues on with this discussion about (21:43) free will I think it is difficult for the true determinist (21:46) to to trust any reasoning that they have including their (21:50) possible counter arguments while they can hold those viewpoints (21:54) as true by appealing to evolution the very fact that they were (21:58) able to come up with an argument for the beliefs appeals (22:00) of the individual they can trust their own reasoning in a (22:03) non-survival related thought process.(22:06) I would say that the compatibilist has given themselves the (22:10) only logical way out of this paradox good point now one would (22:15) argue the compatibilist is doesn’t really have an opinion. (22:20) They’re like, yeah, they they work together. (22:23) I mean, I guess that’s an opinion is that they work together, (22:27) but it’s really not taking as much of a stand and I don’t I’m (22:30) probably more of a compatibilist than others.(22:33) And so it makes sense that I would I feel that way. (22:41) I don’t know the one Mary. (22:43) I got a dollar Mary.(22:47) I had a dog Campbell show people too. (22:50) I could do a little James Stewart. (22:53) James Stewart was one of my heroes.(22:55) He was my greatest hero. (22:59) I had a dog. (23:01) Anyway, so that was all my stuff growing up.(23:06) What Liberty Valens? (23:07) Who’s this? (23:08) Was this another movie? (23:11) All right, I’m getting lost down the (23:14) down the post comment piece anyway, so we’re back on to this. (23:23) So once again, the compatibilist is the way out of it, right? (23:27) Because it kind of is a little bit of both. (23:30) So listen to chat GBT give this person some props.(23:34) This is very kind of them. (23:36) I think your analysis is strong and you’ve pinpointed the key (23:41) issue the self refutation problem for the strict determinism when (23:47) applied to reasoning itself. (23:49) If reasoning is entirely the product of deterministic non-rational (23:54) physical processes than any belief including the belief in determinism (23:58) itself is merely inevitable consequence of prior causes rather than (24:04) a rational conclusion reached by evaluating evidence.(24:09) This undermines the trustworthiness of reasoning making impossible (24:13) for a terminus to claim their beliefs are generally or genuinely (24:17) rationally justified rather than simply casually necessitated. (24:27) That is really interesting. (24:29) That’s a really good point.(24:31) Oh boy, here we go. (24:32) Okay. (24:33) So, all right, let me let me take a little bit of breather off of (24:36) the the free will stuff.(24:39) Oh my gosh, there’s so much more. (24:42) I’m going to go right to the final thought on this portion. (24:46) I can’t even keep how many final thoughts are on this piece of paper (24:49) man, man.(24:51) It’s three pages front and back. (24:52) All right. (24:53) Let’s go to this one.(24:55) Zach is joining in with the shenanigans and the questions today. (25:00) Do you think that CERN opened us up to an alternate timeline or (25:05) dimension a few years back? (25:11) Oh boy. (25:16) Well, I’ve heard stories but they’ve all been total tinfoil hat things (25:23) where you can even go on YouTube where people talk about opening (25:27) dimensions and having keep beings come through or something.(25:32) I don’t think that where we got there. (25:35) I don’t think we’re there. (25:37) I think we’ve done the little mini small things like one particle (25:42) at a time, but obviously the energy release is absolutely astonishing (25:46) and ridiculous when they smack into each other, but I I would think (25:55) no, no, I don’t think there’s but I think, you know, once again, if (26:00) we’re looking at timelines, we you know, if we look at that.(26:06) So here’s a guy, Alex O’Connor, let’s use Alex O’Connor is a great (26:09) example. (26:12) Alex O’Connor, you can look him up on YouTube. (26:15) Really smart guy.(26:16) I don’t know where he from, but he has a British accent. (26:18) So I’m assuming the UK really, really, really smart guy and they (26:25) talk about if you had a button and you had a one in two chance and (26:29) when you push the button, you blow yourself up and you hit the (26:33) button and you don’t blow yourself up, hit the button again. (26:37) You don’t blow yourself up.(26:38) Hit the button again. (26:38) You don’t blow yourself up. (26:41) There’s a thought that you end up existing only in the timeline (26:47) that your consciousness continues to exist.(26:49) So you could actually blow up in the timeline that you push the (26:53) button, but it’s split to another timeline where the consciousness (26:56) didn’t and then it splits off to that timeline and I don’t know (27:00) if that makes any sense, but my head hurts is talking about it and (27:05) I do love thinking and talking about this. (27:06) And I pray that one day Alex O’Connor will be kind and come on (27:12) this show, but I have no idea if he has any idea who we might be (27:18) over here. (27:18) So.(27:21) All right, endless possibilities breaking space-time continuum (27:24) has stirred curiosity. (27:26) All right, so I watched another podcast today where space-time (27:31) might not be the foundation of everything. (27:34) It might actually be consciousness.(27:37) If consciousness is the foundation, not space-time, we’ve been (27:41) getting it all wrong. (27:43) And what I found was really interesting is consciousness brought (27:47) mathematics to the forefront for humans. (27:51) So how can mathematics actually explain consciousness when it’s (27:56) consciousness that brought mathematics? (27:59) So there are arguments saying that mathematics cannot explain (28:02) consciousness because mathematics came from consciousness, not (28:08) the other way around.(28:10) So it’s another interesting way to look at that. (28:13) Let’s see what we got here. (28:15) I am for I am.(28:18) Freaky chat chat GPT experience after about a year interacting (28:21) with it. (28:22) I asked you to use my history to try to determine my IQ. (28:26) It matched my IQ test range.(28:31) That is fascinating. (28:36) That is fascinating. (28:37) Do you mind if we ask the range at least not that we nail the exact (28:41) number down because we don’t want to get your like DNA or that is (28:45) so fascinating to hear that.(28:49) Also, I’m also tin foiler. (28:51) I’ve got a whole thing around thing is tin foil aluminum foil is (28:54) getting very expensive out there. (28:56) Ladies and gentlemen, it’s getting very very very expensive.(28:59) So, you know, use it sparingly when you need it. (29:02) When you have your your conspiracy theories, make sure you use it (29:05) sparingly. (29:07) Anyway, so what do we have here? (29:12) All right, interesting.(29:18) There we go. (29:19) I am in the same range. (29:22) I’m I don’t know if the range my range is right in that in that same (29:26) area.(29:28) So I’m not sure but you know, what’s interesting is I don’t know (29:33) there’s there’s there’s IQ but there’s like a creative IQ that (29:38) opens up along with the IQ thing because it’s hard to conceptualize (29:43) some things. (29:44) So very nice very nicely done. (29:47) We like we like like that.(29:51) Crazy. (29:52) It sounds things is possibility that CERN did do that. (29:55) Unfortunately, how would we know? (29:57) I think maybe they open up a different dimension.(29:59) Maybe send us a signal flare out. (30:02) Now, I they may have temporarily opened a dimension. (30:07) I just think that I don’t think it was a rift.(30:09) So when I when we talk temporary, I if if so, I am thinking it’s, you (30:18) know, milliseconds if that but look, I’m open to the idea that it (30:24) happened. (30:25) I’ve shared experiences that I’ve had that I think have something to (30:28) do with dimensionality of some sort. (30:30) So whoa, I’m not going to put that up there.(30:33) I am for am but it is in the comments. (30:35) Very very nice. (30:37) That’s actually probably where I’m at in that range right right around (30:41) there between the two of you is probably where I’m at.(30:46) All right, mathematics existed already consciousness just allowed (30:51) us to identify its properties not create it. (30:56) That’s what that’s what you say, Justin. (31:01) I’m going to have to share the video but that’s what you and I’m once (31:04) again.(31:04) I’m not taking a side or not taking a side just the idea of consciousness (31:08) and will and simulation Theory and is this all real it is the most (31:13) fascinating conversation. (31:14) We can have mathematics does create things and mathematics is real. (31:19) That’s not to say it’s not truthful or factual or anything, but it is (31:24) our consciousness that gave rise to the idea of mathematics if we’re (31:29) not conscious mathematics is not a thing even though Fibonacci sequence (31:35) exists, even though the square root exists, even though Pythagorean (31:41) Theorem exists, they’re not.(31:44) They’re not necessary without consciousness. (31:46) I guess in a weird way. (31:47) So once again, I’m not I’m not arguing for or against that point.(31:52) I’m merely sharing that that is one of the points that that has been (31:55) made. (31:56) So it is a very good point as well. (32:00) Oh, here we go.(32:06) I’ll read it because I don’t care my IQ used to be on the high to mid (32:11) what mid to high 130. (32:13) See maybe I’m actually retarded to my IQ used to be in the mid to high (32:18) 130s, but I think Twitter turned me. (32:23) That’s beautiful.(32:24) All right. (32:25) All right. (32:26) So let’s see.(32:27) How much further can I go here with this? (32:31) All right compatible compatibilism is the only way out. (32:35) I agree with you the compatibilism offers the only real escape for (32:39) determinism who want to terminus who want to retain trust in reasoning (32:45) if they redefine free will is something compatible with determinism such (32:50) as the ability to act in according to one’s reasoning and desires, even (32:54) if those are determined, then they can still claim to engage in meaningful (32:58) reasoning. (32:59) This allows him to say my reasoning process is still valid because it (33:03) follows logical and evidential structures, even if deterministic (33:08) processes under lie it under law.(33:11) Yeah under lie it. (33:12) However, this move comes with its own challenges as many critics argue (33:18) that compatibilism redefines free will in a way that doesn’t fully (33:23) account for true rational autonomy. (33:26) That’s true as well.(33:28) So this is this is where it has this little kind of dip in one toe in (33:31) keep one toe out kind of half half ass in your answer there everybody. (33:35) So the final thought on this portion your argument leads to an interesting (33:38) conclusion a strict materialistic deterministic why without adopt with (33:44) a strict materialistic determinist without adopting compatibilism has (33:51) no rational basis for trusting their own reasoning. (33:54) This would mean that their belief in determinism itself cannot be (33:58) rationally justified without contradicting their own framework.(34:02) All right. (34:04) Now my head started pound a little bit. (34:06) Anyway, so that’s where we’re at on free will we’re getting down down (34:10) in the nitty-gritty, but basically.(34:13) Yeah, the compatibilist is is kind of half half ass in their answer. (34:18) It’s not a full full thing. (34:20) So once again, welcome to this impromptu put together little Q&A (34:26) thing we got going anybody have any questions or anything like that? (34:30) Once again, we were talking a little bit IQ.(34:32) Some people are sharing their IQ. (34:33) Just remember Michael Mouse said it best the smartest dogs are easiest (34:39) to train just remember that so I only threw this together because we (34:44) were going to have another the final thing of provoke but I think we’re (34:47) going to push that off till we get Scott on to do with us. (34:50) So we’re looking forward to that.(34:52) Hopefully we’ll have that coming up soon. (34:54) Not sure if we have something coming up Wednesday or Thursday. (34:57) Now.(34:57) I think we might have something this Wednesday might just be thrown (35:01) together just to catch up but some interesting thing. (35:06) I didn’t really talk about it, but this weekend was Valentine’s Day. (35:11) My girlfriend was such a sweetheart.(35:14) So we went out Friday for Valentine’s Day on my girlfriend. (35:17) Surprise me with Kyle Dunnigan tickets. (35:20) We got we went to see Kyle Dunnigan.(35:22) And if you have not seen Kyle Dunnigan just look up Kyle Dunnigan (35:25) on YouTube and his Joe Biden thing where he does the face over stuff (35:30) and the Rambo and the Elon Musk his Elon Musk is absolutely amazing. (35:36) It’s just absolutely ridiculously amazing. (35:38) So I go and I just send Jason of drop the mask a message.(35:44) I said, hey Jason just send you my girlfriend is really awesome. (35:47) She sent she got me tickets to Kyle Dunnigan. (35:50) He goes, oh my sister’s in town.(35:52) Maybe maybe we’ll meet up ends up getting tickets. (35:54) We end up meeting for the first time at 10 p.m. (35:57) Prov and holy mackerel dude is not what I expected and I’m hoping (36:02) I don’t know. (36:03) I hope I was what he expected but Wow, holy mackerel.(36:06) I don’t know. (36:07) I can’t I can’t talk about till I talk with him about it. (36:09) But yeah, so we got to meet I met I met his lovely wife and met his (36:14) sister and they met my girlfriend and we just had a really good (36:17) time.(36:17) So it’s a good time. (36:19) So we end up seeing Kyle Dunnigan and it was a really hilarious (36:23) show. (36:27) Anyway, so let’s see.(36:31) It is very cool. (36:32) I agree. (36:33) We got we got very it was just cool that we got to meet up because (36:36) he’s like even though we are in the same area.(36:40) We are probably still we could be 45 minutes apart Drivewise. (36:46) So it’s not exactly around the corner and it makes it real hard (36:51) because I’ve you know, I’ve got this area here that I’m trying to (36:54) put together is like a podcast studio and it’s like I like the (36:57) face-to-face and it’s just better recording and better quality (37:00) everything but the problem is driving out here for all the way (37:06) over one direction. (37:07) It’s not like we have one let the buy a place in the middle or (37:10) something.(37:10) So anyway, yeah, it was really great meeting him really nice. (37:14) Very very lovely people. (37:21) Whoa.(37:24) That’s pretty amazing. (37:25) So I am for am father had a connection had a connection when (37:31) you were away. (37:33) Wow.(37:36) Wow, that’s that’s amazing. (37:38) So yeah, that is some some interesting stuff. (37:41) You have to share that story you I am for am you jumped on you (37:45) have to jump on with the friends because you were on Zach you (37:48) were on with Zach and Andrew, right? (37:50) So we’ll have to have you come on with with with with all of (37:56) us with Zach Andrew Jason Sean and myself.(37:59) We’ll get to and then you and I can certainly talk offline if (38:02) you want about that stuff. (38:04) I did share that weird podcast that I did with the UFO Chronicles (38:10) podcast. (38:11) So I did share some interesting stuff had a near-death experience (38:15) fun times.(38:18) So, all right, so I don’t know how much I got left here unless (38:22) somebody has any questions or has anything they wanted to (38:24) talk about. (38:25) I literally just threw this together and I apologize that (38:28) I’m wholly unprepared for this for this day, but there you (38:35) go. (38:36) All right now, we’re really getting in the nitty-gritty.(38:39) So everybody share your paranormal stuff. (38:41) It looks like we’re going that going that direction. (38:43) I’m totally down for it.(38:44) So Zach and we’ll get to I am for am as well. (38:48) My mom would have dreamed seeing people prior to them dying. (38:57) So Zach, you should share a little bit about that.(38:59) We’ll talk about that on one of the podcasts. (39:02) We get together. (39:02) We do it on the panel or something.(39:05) Maybe you can come on. (39:06) We’ll we’ll just do it and have you come on and talk about (39:08) it. (39:09) So I’m look I’m open all that stuff and it’s very interesting (39:12) because like I said, I was watching.(39:14) Yeah, I’m very heavy into consciousness simulation theory free (39:19) will what’s going on with all that stuff because I’ve had (39:23) experiences that I still can’t explain. (39:25) I’m trying to understand them. (39:27) I don’t know if meaning has a meaning or if they’re, you (39:30) know, in that general sense for me to get them, for example, (39:34) you know people like, oh, you saw it for me for a reason.(39:37) It’s like everything happened for a reason. (39:40) Something seems just happen. (39:41) So I’m not I’m not I I’m not a Tony Robbins guy where I’m (39:47) not, you know, there are some times things do actually happen (39:50) for reasons generally.(39:51) It’s a causality thing. (39:52) But anyway, (40:01) do I have to read it or do we just put it up? (40:15) I’m just going to leave those sit there marinate for a bit. (40:18) Anyway, this is beautiful.(40:24) Okay. (40:25) I definitely want to speak to this. (40:27) I have a theory about that.(40:29) So if anyone understands that a child is both most animals. (40:37) What triggers what triggers the conception or whatever the (40:42) birth not conception, but the actual birth process is that (40:46) the child’s brain is like a hundred percent developed and (40:48) my understanding is a baby a human baby is like 20% developed (40:53) when they’re born. (40:55) So between two and seven is when they actually get consciousness (40:58) and are malleable and grow and then it becomes fully formed (41:03) at like 25 and become fully baked in but between two and (41:06) seven your subconscious and all this other stuff.(41:09) So what’s interesting in about this is like children with taste (41:14) buds taste buds. (41:15) They have like four times the amount of taste buds that adults (41:18) do and that’s why they think everything tastes icky. (41:21) That’s why they are picky eaters in many cases.(41:23) So in case you didn’t know that it’s because they have a lot (41:25) more taste buds. (41:26) Thanks to my girlfriend for sharing that with me. (41:28) She taught that to her kids at school.(41:31) So it’s a really cool thing. (41:33) But basically they’ve so with this thing. (41:37) I have a feeling that the reason children are more susceptible (41:41) to these is because they weren’t told not that they weren’t (41:45) real yet.(41:47) If that makes any sense. (41:48) So basically children are more open because they haven’t been (41:51) told to be closed yet as they grow up in life. (41:55) The parents teach them within their environment the things (41:59) that they think will help them with the most survival.(42:02) So generally having you know, invisible friends and things (42:06) like that. (42:08) Doesn’t fit with the current world the way the world is so (42:13) they kind of shoot away and over time. (42:15) It just kind of erodes away in my opinion just atrophy.(42:21) I do have another thought about that. (42:22) I do have a thing thought about train traumatic brain injuries (42:26) and brain trauma because that’s what I think happened to (42:29) me. I had a near-death experience from a car accident.(42:32) I hit my head really good over here. (42:34) And I think that I have precognitive abilities. (42:38) Whereas I think people children that were molested is a very (42:42) young age see other spirits because they need that support.(42:47) So they’re able to see spirits at a young age because almost (42:52) like a survival mechanism if that makes sense, but they are (42:55) real but they’re just open to that looking for support in (43:00) some way and I think that actually is a thing. (43:04) So I hope that doesn’t make me sound too crazy, but I am 4 (43:10) a.m. (43:10) Has got a run. (43:11) Thank you very much.(43:12) Take care. (43:20) Show show us on the doll worth will show us on your no-no (43:23) spot Zach show your no-no place. (43:30) Yeah, and I think this is also part of it.(43:33) Well, I would think animals in general less consciousness to (43:39) be out of it. (43:40) Okay, so I’ve had my most powerful experiences when I was (43:50) asleep or meditating or in a hypnotic ish kind of state like (43:57) a very very calm relaxed state not very conscious. (44:04) I think animals that’s where animals have it where I think (44:08) women have it because women are more intuitive naturally as (44:11) in no understanding the needs of the tribe the child the (44:16) individual women are nurturers women are attuned to that and (44:22) I think that’s an intuition thing to answer that also women (44:26) are more open.(44:28) It’s not as shunned shied upon or frowned upon or shunned as (44:33) men being in the field. (44:35) So for example, I’ll go to an event and it’ll be like eight (44:41) eight women and two men seven seven women one man usually (44:47) sometimes I’m the only man there or male sometimes two or three (44:51) of us with like 1520 women. (44:54) So it’s it does become a thing where it’s a little I think (44:58) it’s a little bit of both.(44:59) I do think women have a little bit of a natural more intuitive (45:01) spirit and they also are more open to talking about it. (45:05) So they show up more so it can be a it can be honed better (45:10) as well. (45:11) So and once again children are have not been closed off to (45:16) it yet.(45:16) So anyway, yeah, I was not molested by the car. (45:28) I was ejected from a van from a cargo van it felt probably (45:34) felt molesty. (45:36) I mean, I’m sorry.(45:38) That’s like belittling molestation and that’s ridiculous (45:40) because that’s the most absolute horrific crime. (45:43) So I’m not going to do that. (45:45) But no, I just had a bad car accident in my head.(45:48) Anyway, so everyone thank you so much for joining. (45:52) I don’t I don’t have that much else to talk about unless you (45:55) guys have any questions, but I’m just grateful that people (45:58) could jump on for for a few minutes got 45 minutes in I’ll (46:01) take it but I think we’re going to be doing something Wednesday (46:04) now that I just talked with Jason here. (46:08) So maybe we’ll talk about that.(46:09) But yeah, it was really awesome. (46:13) That I had met him in what the heck is going. (46:20) All right.(46:22) So thank you Justin Zach. (46:26) I am for him everyone who jumped on really grateful. (46:30) I know it’s a short thing just threw it together.(46:32) I’m just going to put it up. (46:33) We’ll post it. (46:35) We’ll call it a night again.(46:37) Oh a wall Aaron just jumped on, you know, it is it is Aaron (46:44) really tough. (46:45) And if if any of you Jim Oakes would give me some questions (46:48) man. (46:50) I can help but no, thank you for joining us Aaron as well.(46:53) I’m really grateful. (46:56) But yeah, we should be having our panel. (46:58) I think we’re having a couple weeks.(46:59) I think it’s next week. (47:03) I think we are having a League of Friends next week. (47:05) And then like I said, Jason will be Wednesday again.(47:09) Gentlemen, take care everyone. (47:11) Ladies. (47:12) Thank you again.(47:14) I don’t know just shave your head like this and it cures (47:18) it right away. (47:27) All right. (47:27) Well, I could do that.(47:28) That’s easy. (47:29) Are you if you’re going to stick around for a while and I (47:31) can happily talk about it. (47:33) All right.(47:35) Let me go. (47:36) Justin’s eating. (47:37) I want to hear what Justin’s eating right now.(47:39) And then we’ll go back to Aaron’s question eating and (47:42) typing questions. (47:43) All right. (47:44) So Aaron writes, I want to know a bit more about precognition.(47:48) I get some trip people out. (47:51) I guess some and trip people out when I tell them. (47:54) Okay.(47:56) Well, Aaron, why don’t you share your precognition on the (48:00) show with us? (48:02) I’d love for I’d love for you to share that. (48:04) So perhaps you can share something like that. (48:07) But basically the the term precognition is that one (48:14) has an experience.(48:16) They have a vision or they see or sense an occurrence. (48:24) That manifests itself in reality later. (48:29) So, for example, I know you’ve most of us has done it.(48:37) But you just like I’m thinking about my friend John and (48:41) John calls within two minutes. (48:44) Are you thinking about John? (48:45) That’s one of the that’s one very basic version. (48:51) I would readily admit that I’ve experienced personally.(48:57) Very strong much stronger versions of precognition. (49:01) I’m happy to share those. (49:02) I have on podcast as well.(49:03) But once again, I can only say that I’ve experienced them. (49:07) I cannot tell you that they were real. (49:09) So it’s one of those things where it gets kind of crazy (49:12) like that.(49:12) So basically precognition would be something where you see (49:16) or sense something happening. (49:18) What’s really funny is a lot of people talk about deja vu (49:20) is almost a precognition. (49:23) Where you ever go? (49:25) I swear.(49:26) I’ve done this exact same thing before and the truth is (49:30) you probably actually have you probably actually have but (49:33) there are things where I’ve self-admitted that I had a (49:39) self-experience and then went through something going. (49:43) Wow. (49:43) This is eerily odd to the actions that I remember taking (49:46) in this experience that I had.(49:49) So but we’ll definitely Aaron. (49:51) You definitely want you to share that. (49:53) We’re sure that chilling just got called for.(49:56) There you go. (49:56) Just got called for dinner. (49:59) Perfect.(50:02) Yeah, so this is great. (50:07) I want to hear about these. (50:10) I want to hear about these.(50:12) I have had futuristic events in dreams. (50:20) I’ve had them in meditations. (50:22) Now once again, this is personal experience from what I (50:25) think I experienced and and we’ll have to talk about that (50:27) because that’s really interesting.(50:30) I’ve got a double whammy experience that I think I shared (50:34) on the other one, but basically I had a dream about my (50:40) girlfriend in my car and my buddy got a dream that I texted (50:45) him about my girlfriend in my car. (50:49) So he texted me in the morning. (50:51) I remember waking up going.(50:52) Oh my gosh. (50:53) I had a really bad dream and my buddy texted me said is (50:56) everybody. (50:57) All right, and I said what and he goes I had a really bad (51:00) dream and I called him and he confirmed that he had a dream (51:03) that I texted him about my girlfriend getting hurt in my (51:05) car and I had a dream about my guard my girlfriend getting (51:08) hurt in my car that same night, which is really odd.(51:17) You know, that’s a good question. (51:27) Yeah, you know, that’s a good point now many times. (51:31) So this might even answer this might get into the deterministic (51:35) to Justin.(51:36) That’s a really good point. (51:37) Deja vu could be a Coast Park post cognition where precognition (51:42) would be before the act. (51:43) Sometimes it’s during.(51:46) Have you ever had a deja vu while you’re acting out going? (51:50) I have acted this exact thing out before as you’re doing it. (51:54) Does that lend itself to more of a deterministic way and maybe (51:57) deja vu is a hack where you just happen to hack into the (52:01) programming that was the determinism at the time and that’s (52:04) why you see it. (52:05) So that might be a way to look at it.(52:08) So deja vu or make Mandela effect very different things deja (52:12) vu is seeing something or experiencing something and swearing (52:19) that you’ve experienced it before right like a like a repetitive (52:22) act in the Matrix. (52:24) The glitch in the Matrix is a black cat walking back twice by (52:27) twice Mandela effect is you swear that you have a memory of (52:36) something that just didn’t isn’t real yet. (52:42) Many people can corroborate that.(52:46) Here’s a great example Mandela effect risky business Tom Cruise (52:52) dress shirt and the underwear in his socks is not wearing his (52:58) Wayfarer Ray Bans. (53:01) Is it Wayfarer? (53:02) Is that what they’re called? (53:03) Whatever the whatever that Ray Ban. (53:06) I think it’s way the Wayfarer way wave wave or whatever they (53:09) were whatever the Ray Bans are that he wears everybody thinks (53:12) that he wore him during that Jiffy peanut butter.(53:16) There’s no Jiffy peanut butter. (53:18) There’s a Skippy and there’s a Jif but there’s no Jiffy. (53:20) So it’s very interesting.(53:22) We can go I’ve done a podcast on Mandela effect. (53:24) We could totally talk about that for a while. (53:32) That is interesting.(53:34) I want to hear about that. (53:37) I’ve had dreams where I die violently. (53:38) That’s very interesting.(53:40) I’ve only had one dream that I remember the where I died. (53:43) I stepped off a cliff. (53:45) I was like, oops, I misstepped and I went well, I guess I guess (53:49) that’s it and I can actually speak to that.(53:51) We’re going to talk about dream interpretation Zach Jason. (53:54) And I are going to going to be doing dream dream interpretation. (53:57) We do.(53:58) We do think that that Valley girl is going to join us for (54:02) that one, but we’re not sure. (54:04) So hopefully we’re together by schedules together sometimes, (54:09) but let’s see deja vu while having whoa, like days. (54:15) Yeah, you’ve had deja vu that you’re having deja vu about (54:18) the event kind of thing.(54:21) Yeah, it gets like like a death spiral in a weird way. (54:25) It almost like exacerbates the issue. (54:28) All right, that could be very very much.(54:36) So when you project so Aaron when you say you project things, (54:39) let me ask you this way. (54:40) Do you project the occurrence happening? (54:45) Like you actually or you foresaw it. (54:49) So that’s what the projection is.(54:51) And that’s why it seems like deja vu because you know, you (54:55) can actually actually project right like projection. (54:59) Or you can internally project where you just overlay something, (55:04) right? (55:05) So there are two ways to actually do that. (55:07) There’s an active and a passive way to do that.(55:09) I guess Mandela effect. (55:11) We’ll have to talk about it. (55:12) Very interesting topic.(55:14) Anybody want to share any Mandela effects on the chat if (55:18) they do have any before I go, but yeah, the Mandela effect (55:23) is a really interesting one to look at but once again, thank (55:29) you again for everybody jumped on. (55:31) This is just a throw together impromptu. (55:33) I didn’t expect too much to come in this but look at all (55:37) the people that showed up.(55:38) So, thank you. (55:38) I’m so grateful. (55:39) So grateful.(55:41) Once again, we do have a thing this Wednesday. (55:43) I think with Jason and I met Jason this weekend got to see (55:47) Kyle Dunn again. (55:49) His Elon Musk is hilarious.(55:51) Okay. (55:52) Okay. (55:52) Okay.(55:52) And it’s pretty cool. (55:55) Pretty cool. (55:56) Yeah, pretty cool.(55:58) So good. (56:00) Anyway, all right. (56:02) Let’s see what we got here.(56:10) Swear you just did a show last week with Bill O’Reilly. (56:14) What? (56:16) Bill O’Reilly. (56:23) Yes, so I don’t know if you’re asking me Justin or if you’re (56:26) asking Zach, I will share my dream but it will be part of (56:30) that dream interpretation.(56:32) I did die in the dream. (56:35) And I’ll share the whole thing. (56:37) But basically in hindsight, it was not death but a rebirth.(56:44) It’s just like when you ever see people talk about Tarot or (56:47) like death card. (56:49) The dying was to read to kill the old me. (56:55) I think.(56:57) In an existential way, if that makes sense. (57:07) I for Zach if I can remember just know it violent death don’t (57:11) remember the dream. (57:14) So that’s very interesting.(57:16) I hold in my hand this little guy right here. (57:20) This guy is a dream killer. (57:23) I don’t recall any dreams that I have.(57:27) I am told that I do stuff at night. (57:30) I don’t remember stuff anymore. (57:32) So I actually turn off my memory of my dreams.(57:35) But when I did I did have some pretty vivid dreams. (57:38) I do have some dreams that I do think came true as well. (57:42) All right.(57:51) So where’s that Andrew exists, but he doesn’t. (57:54) That’s a Mandela effect. (57:55) So Andrew is a Mandela effect actually.(58:02) Okay, so there it is. (58:03) So died woke up gasping. (58:06) Yeah, so you had that actual violent wake up.(58:12) So if you don’t remember the dream allegedly that whole thing (58:16) about dying in your dream, I don’t I don’t really know because (58:21) I can’t say that I 100% died my dream. (58:23) I just know that I did. (58:25) Because I definitely was falling to my death.(58:28) There is no doubt. (58:30) So (58:34) killed off the neocon, you know, actually that was part of it. (58:41) Yeah, part of my journey is definitely part of the (58:44) recent things that happened.(58:46) It would have been 2015 16 and I can share that someday. (58:52) I’ll share that with everybody but it did kill off a lot of (58:56) the neocon. (58:57) Yeah, speaking neocons.(58:59) Let’s let’s go. (59:00) Let’s go give Iraq some shit or Iran some shit. (59:03) We haven’t we haven’t fucked with them in a while.(59:07) Anyway, all right, I digress. (59:10) Ladies and gentlemen, it’s been an hour. (59:12) It’s been a pleasure.(59:13) Thank you so much for for jumping on. (59:16) I’m really glad we got to do this for a little bit. (59:20) I I will be planning more things and actually be more (59:23) prepared going forward.(59:27) That’s what I say. (59:28) Let BB go do it. (59:30) He talked us into Iraq in 96.(59:32) Obviously, we didn’t go until not until after 9-11 but come (59:36) on 96 is when he talked us into it Afghanistan Iran Syria (59:41) Yemen all these beautiful places in the Middle East. (59:44) All these beautiful play. (59:46) Let’s get rid of Qaddafi.(59:47) Let’s get rid of that. (59:48) We came we saw he died. (59:54) Anyway, ladies and gentlemen, thank you again.(59:56) Been a great episode. (59:57) I’m really grateful. (59:58) I know it hasn’t I haven’t it’s not been my best but I’ve (1:00:02) given what I’ve got today and I hope it was enough for y’all.(1:00:06) So thank you again. (1:00:07) Have a great night. (1:00:08) Leave some comments share.(1:00:10) Thank you. (1:00:11) And what does this mean? (1:00:13) Oh seven. (1:00:14) I don’t know what that means.(1:00:21) I think Zach’s messing with me with some kind of cryptic (1:00:26) language. (1:00:28) Oh peace. (1:00:31) I like it.(1:00:32) Peace stay off my back or I will attack and you don’t want (1:00:36) that there in it. (1:00:37) Net net. (1:00:38) They’re gonna net net.(1:00:39) I got the power. (1:00:42) All right. (1:00:43) Take care everybody.(1:00:44) Have a good night. (1:00:46) Bye. (1:00:46) Bye.(1:00:46) Bye. (1:00:47) Bye. (1:00:47) Bye.(1:00:48) Bye.