A conversation about the moon landings and why they’re controversial

Chris and Mark discuss the moon landings and their impact. Were they real? Faked? Why so important?
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(0:15) Hey everybody, welcome to Knocked Conscious. Sir, say hello so I can put on my foil. (0:24) Hello, so you can put on your foil.You just almost wrapped your head around your (0:30) third chin around my head. Welcome to Robin Hood men in tights. (0:38) Whoa, tinfoil brigade, I believe is what we were saying.Ladies and gentlemen, we’re (0:45) gonna do another conspiracy-esque theory. I think you gotta fold that whole thing (0:49) over. Look dude, I’m short like Napoleon.You’re about, you might be taller than (0:55) Napoleon, bro. How tall is Napoleon? Like five. Don’t beer google it.Something, I’m (1:00) not gonna google it. This thing is just, but I’m feeling happy about it. My plutonium (1:05) p38 space modulator.I’m going to blow up the earth. I don’t think I’m Napoleon, I (1:11) think I just have a sailboat on my head backwards. It’s a schooner, you dumb (1:16) bastard.It’s not a schooner, it’s a sailboat. Schooner tuna, the tuna with the (1:22) heart. The schooner is a sailboat, dummy head.You know what? There is no Easter (1:26) bunny. Isn’t that the worst? That’s another, that might be a scene. I’m so sad when I found out there’s no Easter (1:31) bunny.I know, when I heard there was no bunny, you know, it’s funny, I was like (1:35) what, then what are we eating on Easter? Well, when Jesus came out of the tomb on (1:40) Easter Sunday, yeah, and there was all these bunnies and they were hiding eggs, (1:43) I was like, what do you mean there’s no Easter bunny? That seems to be right here. (1:47) Did you read the Gospel of Matthew chapter 7 verse 4? Where’s the Easter bunny, bro? (1:53) Well, bro, first of all, you have to wait like 30 years before he dies, before you (1:57) can write about him. Oh.That’s, that’s our landscaper. Whoa. After that.You’re a landscaper. (2:03) You gotta figure out. Oh my God.Oh, bro, I’m going to hell for that one. That’s a joke, everybody. We know, we know.So. Yes. I believe this is one you (2:13) brought to me.We, I mean, we’ve talked about a million times, but we’ve never (2:17) gotten, we’ve never been on the record, because nothing says on the record like (2:22) two grown ass fucking idiots with tinfoil on their heads. (2:28) I’d like to be on the record for how I feel about this conspiracy theory, because (2:32) this tinfoil adds credo. Is this conversation for the record? Am I wearing my tinfoil hat? (2:37) All right, sir, my fellow tinfoil brigader, you are the admiral of the tinfoil brigade.(2:44) So what are you like? I’m just a seaman. Seaman in first class? I’m just a seaman. (2:48) So the title of today’s podcast, seaman check mark.Ew. I don’t know, bro. Seaman first class? (2:59) Sure.I like seaman first class. Of course you do. I like first class seaman.(3:06) Oh, this is going to be bad. This is going to be bad. Let’s just get into it.But it’s on you, man. (3:09) Was the moon landing faked? What a great question. So basically the question (3:20) is real or fake, right? Did it really happen or did it not happen? (3:24) Yeah.And we staged it. Did the United States of America in 1969 or any year? July was it? (3:31) I should have looked that shit up. It’s like coming up.It’s like literally around the corner (3:36) from right now when we’re talking. Right now, right now? Yeah, right now, right now. (3:40) I think it’s July.Yeah, I think it’s something like that. I’m with you. Does it matter? We’ll (3:44) correct it if we have to.July 69. Yeah, sure. July 69.Fuck it. July 69, bro. We got a whole (3:49) month at least with that.We got a moon month. We got 31 days to figure it out. Sure, fuck it.(3:55) All right. So did it happen or not? Is that? That is the question. Is that there’s quite a (3:59) few conspiracy theories that say the moon landing was faked.That the American government in a film (4:07) studio filmed actors in outfit, in astronaut gear, jumping around a sound studio and then they (4:18) released that as the astronauts on the moon. Right. So.I just sped up the footage and did (4:24) obviously all the special effects. Yes. Back in 69.And then that footage was released to billions (4:30) of the people around the world as the astronauts on the moon. Yeah. How many billion? I wonder how (4:36) many billion were even there in 69.Do you want to beer Google it? We’ll Google it after. I don’t (4:39) want to fucking Google it now. Beer Google it? Well, yeah, because we we cross particle streams (4:43) all the time.All of the streams. So let me ask you. Okay, so that’s a that’s a great question.(4:50) Did this fucking thing happen? Yes. So let me ask you this. Yes.Growing up. Yes. You you and I grew (4:56) up after.Yes. You were born the year of the last landing. I was born in 71.71. So you. Whatever.(5:03) You might add two or three of the landings because between 69 and 72, I believe I may be (5:09) off by a number or two, but I think there are about 12 people that stepped foot on the moon (5:13) allegedly. I think that’s right. I think that’s correct.So I think it was groups of like it was (5:18) either two, two, two, two or like two, two, two, three, three kind of thing. Something like that. (5:22) Who cares? Regardless.But 12 people total because the first one was only two people, right? Yes. (5:27) Because the one guy had to be in the orbiter guy. Orbiter guy.The orbiter guy took a picture. That (5:33) he had an orbital bone. He had two of them even.Right. So growing up. (5:40) Well, I was one when the first one, the last one was there.So I really remember that one. Well, (5:45) we had we had it on Betamax and VHS and shit. So do they have Betamax back then? No, (5:50) dude.I don’t fucking know. This thing is just. Dude, your hat’s fucked up, bro.We’ll fix your (5:53) hat. I’m working on it. Would you like to borrow the Napoleon hat? I mean, I might.I might. But (5:58) I don’t wanna make all the crinkly sounds in the meantime. I love it.Yeah, it’s pretty hot. (6:03) But growing up is what I mean is like, obviously, you and I did not experience it on TV. (6:07) We’re not live.Yeah, not live by any means. Obviously, it’s been on television multiple (6:11) times, but you and I haven’t seen it. Didn’t see it live.So growing up, did you ever question it? (6:18) Absolutely not. Not never. Agreed.Never, never, never, never. I’m like, (6:22) Merck is the best. We land on the fucking moon.As a matter of fact, I use that. (6:28) As a, I use that as an insult to pretty much everyone I speak with whom I speak, (6:34) because it’d be like this. I work in I.T. slash copy or, you know, technology kind of thing.(6:43) And somebody be like, I’m out of black toner. My light didn’t come on. And I’d be like, (6:50) lady, we put the man on the moon 50 years ago, and we don’t have a machine (6:54) that lights up when it’s low.Come on, please. Come on, toots. Like, it’s like, (7:00) oh, I’m out of gas.I didn’t know. Like your engine light or the little fuel gauge didn’t (7:04) give it away. Man on the moon 50 years.That was one of my excuses. So I obviously was all (7:10) in that we did it. I also say that until maybe probably 20 or 30 or so when I started going, (7:19) hmm, because you start seeing these things pop up after.When we grew up, there wasn’t (7:24) the interwebs. So like cyber, none of it till late 90s to 92. Well, online bitches.Thank you. (7:32) Ninety three. I think we had our we had at school as a grant and it was all text based.(7:36) It was like telnet and whatever. It wasn’t even telnet. Yeah.You remember telnet, bro? Whoa. I (7:42) still use telnet. Don’t tell anybody.Don’t telnet anybody. Oh, don’t ever say that again. Well, (7:48) the most secure thing is nobody gives a fuck about it.Is it clear text? (7:52) It’s just text based. Yeah, it’s all crazy. But then you can make a rose by doing a line (7:57) and an apostrophe and a line and then a comma and then a line in an at sign.(8:01) Hello. Looks just like a rose to me. So anyway, so we didn’t have the interwebs.(8:07) So like conspiracies didn’t really come up probably till the interwebs. I mean, (8:15) we had conspiracies all the time, but like it would be only when a news station would (8:18) show the conspiracy. Right.And considering all the information comes from like three sources. (8:23) But don’t you think. May I ask a question? Yeah.Yeah. Christopher in the back. Christopher.(8:29) Yes. Don’t you think that. Well, prior to this, since 1947, people have been talking about Roswell, (8:37) New Mexico.Yeah. So and that was so in 1950, 1960, 1965, people have been talking about Roswell, (8:43) right? Right. So in Area 51.Right. But this is the difference right now that I’m seeing. (8:50) How was conspiracy theorists at Area 51 getting out the message? Yeah.Flyers. Yeah. Right.(8:59) They weren’t fucking sneaker net, bro. Yeah. You had to you had to get a mailer or whatever.(9:03) Yeah. It wasn’t just like, hey, I could tweet the moon landing never happened right now. And we’d (9:08) a gazillion fucking responses.Yeah. Hashtag NASA. Hashtag moon.Hashtag landing. Hashtag. (9:14) All children.Buzz. I’m buzzed. It’s good.But you understand that. Right. So it’s not not (9:23) whether conspiracies existed.OK. But the layperson. Right.The layperson didn’t have (9:28) access to all. Yeah. We heard Area 51, but we never saw like video footage.Now you can send (9:33) people intercepting like NASA signals and going, hey, that thing shut off, right, is whatever. (9:39) So, boom. So you come to me with the moon land.Did it happen? And when did you start (9:44) being skeptical ish questioning it? I don’t. Well, adulthood. (9:51) I don’t even know if I’m skeptical.I just know that there’s I keep seeing stupid (9:58) things on Netflix and Amazon Prime about. Did the moon landing really happen? (10:04) Here’s a conspiracy theory episode. Then this happens and then saw and I’ve watched a couple (10:10) of them and some of them have interesting points and some of them are fucking stupid as shit.(10:17) Do you remember a fucking stupid one? Yeah. Can you share one or do you off the top of your head (10:22) or you have to look it up? No, I love the stupid ones. Those are my favorite.Like, (10:28) no, we we hired horses, trained horses to fly the planes into the buildings. (10:34) I didn’t see that. I was like, like, no, like some of the fucking conspiracies are (10:42) well-orchestrated, meaning.Yeah, there was there’s a show on Netflix called Conspiracy (10:51) Theories and it’s there’s a season or two, whatever, and there’s episode. Eight or nine (10:58) is about the moon landings. So I watched that shit and there’s three or four people that (11:05) believe that it’s fake and there’s three or four people that believe that it’s real.(11:09) So there’s one dude that. He takes the Bible to all 12 astronauts that landed on the moon (11:19) and asked them to swear on the Bible that they were actually there. (11:23) And none of them do it.Not one of them will swear on the Bible. And so correlatively, (11:30) they didn’t land on the moon. So by direct correlation in this man’s mind, (11:36) they were not a transitive properties state that they were not on the moon.(11:41) Sir, I’m going to give you a transitive property. You ready? A plus B plus C. Go. (11:45) You are a mammal.Ten percent of mammals exhibit homosexual tendencies. (11:52) You exhibit homosexual tendencies. Welcome transitive verb.Everybody transitive relation. (11:56) Everybody. That’s the way to fucking do that.That’s the way to fucking ruin any train. Whenever (12:02) do a equals B and B equals C. It’s kind of like fucking sports. Oh, well, fucking UCLA beat USC.(12:08) So they must beat Alabama, right? Because USC beat Alabama and UCLA beat USC. So (12:16) bullshit. Anyway, I thought that one was fucking hilarious as well.(12:20) But I also did find it funny that no one just went, yeah, sure. I fucking did it. (12:24) I did like out of the 12 of them.Not one guy was like, dude, just shut the fuck up. Go get (12:30) away from me, man. Except for buzz.This is the third time that you’ve harassed me in three months. (12:35) Yes, fuck. Okay, go away.Yeah, buddy. And then one guy didn’t buzz. One guy went into the camera (12:42) and was like, didn’t same thing, but just like that to the camera.And then and then Buzz Aldrin. (12:47) Well, he called Buzz, I believe, a coward and a liar to his face. And then Buzz fucking and (12:55) Buzz was like seventy five.Buzz doesn’t fuck around. Buzz right. Fucking hooked him to the (13:00) jaw.It was bad. I was like, it was nasty. And I don’t know if, you know, Buzz, Buzz has got like (13:05) serious dementia issues or whatever.Oh, yeah. His family took over his thing and he’s been fighting (13:10) or he had been. Didn’t he pass? I don’t know.I think he did. But he would he was fighting to (13:14) get it back because he was getting dementia. Oh, but he was a loony too.He was like the (13:19) coolest dude. But his name fucking. But I mean, his nickname was Buzz.And it was his name. Like (13:24) what’s his real name? Buzz Aldrin. What’s his first name? Dick Aldrin.John Aldrin. I don’t (13:30) fucking know. So something Buzz Aldrin.It’s an interesting point that the guy would swear on the (13:39) Bible. The guy, the guy tracked down all 12 astronauts that walked on the moon. That took (13:46) some effort.That was that they’re all alive or whoever. Right. You know, and this this took place (13:52) over many years.It wasn’t just like in a month. Right. So.Right. But not I found it interesting (13:58) that not one dude was just like, yeah, OK, OK. Yeah.Shut the fuck up. Go away. Yes.Yeah, (14:04) I swear I was there. Fuck off. Like that’s what I would have done.Just get out of my face, (14:08) dude. Fuck you. What was telling to me was just the the silence, though, of them not saying any.(14:17) Yeah, I found that a little telling. Yes. Not, you know, obviously, like you can’t disprove a (14:23) negative.So like just because a guy didn’t swear on the Bible doesn’t mean he didn’t do it. (14:27) I yeah, I get that. But they were just stone cold statues.Yeah. Like they had a it was very eerie (14:35) because they didn’t refute it. No, they didn’t.Yeah. Their mouths didn’t even open. It’s not (14:41) like the video was edited and they were going.It was right, they were tight lip and the guy (14:50) that walked to the camera was just like, yes, he was like he was like. And he covered it up. (14:55) Correct.And that was interesting. I also found it interesting that I hope I did that right. It (15:02) was phenomenal.I mean, dude, best supporting actor goes to checkmark all chick. Well, (15:08) check also lock is landed on moon when I pull down pants. Yes, he full full moon all day.(15:16) And then someone put hand on it. They put someone handed on the moon. (15:21) I have an important question for checkmark.Oh, if the moon was made of cheese, would you eat it? (15:27) Hey, everybody, this is Harry Carrey. If the moon was made out of cheese, would you eat it? (15:33) How would this will Farrell? Fuck that is checkmark. He’s all kinds of cheese.Yes, (15:41) I am backed up for months in my abdominal and your colon cleansing. Oh, (15:46) intestinal tract. So hard to poop sometimes.Yes. Good cheese. Goat, cow, kitten.(15:53) No cat all day. Cat milk. Cat milk cheese is better.Goats milk cheese. Yes. Yes.(16:00) Colby Jack. Little, little tiny cat nipples. If cockroach have nipple, I tried to move.Also, (16:07) the password is a cat’s nipple. The password is kitten nipple. (16:18) Hello, Steven.Okay, so another interesting point about this document or fucking Netflix thing (16:26) documentary. I don’t want to use that word because that’s I don’t think it’s accurate, but (16:30) they they had a point about the fact that in 1967, two years before the moon landing, (16:36) supposedly landing, alleged moon landing, whatever. I don’t that’s not I’m not saying (16:41) before this.Yeah. Well, the conspiracy two years prior to our claim that we landed on the moon, (16:47) Apollo one, I think. They had an explosion.Well, they had many, but there was an explosion (16:54) on the tarmac, on the launch pad, on the launch pad. And three astronauts were killed, (16:59) including Gus Grissom, who was the number one astronaut, the most well-liked astronaut, (17:05) the most well-known in the American public. Yeah, he it was only because of the moon landing that (17:11) Armstrong and Aldrin got their names.Correct. They were not names where Gus Grissom was like (17:17) the poster child, very just popular. Yes.Yeah. And I thought it was also interesting that (17:25) two years, two and a half years prior to the moon landing, you have an explosion of the same rocket (17:34) on the launch pad on a test. Yeah.Like, OK, guy in it. Well, yes. So there’s that conspiracy (17:40) right there is like, OK.Did they did they get rid of the number one astronaut because he was (17:48) outspoken? Well, we didn’t talk about his outspokenness yet. Let’s talk about the event. (17:53) OK, then we’ll talk about where that plays into the event.Which is important. I don’t (17:59) we can talk about that. But more in my mind, more importantly, is (18:04) logically and technically in two and a half years, you go from an explosion (18:11) of the same Saturn five rocket, which is what went to the moon, Saturn five.(18:16) Two and a half from January 67 to July 69. You go from a rocket that explodes and kill three guys (18:24) and there’s nothing. The fucking thing was just destroyed.Yeah. You go from the top part just (18:31) yet like it goes from that incinerated three men to being to landing on the moon. (18:40) That seems like nowadays we could do that because the technology advances so (18:45) quickly.Right. And but in six from 67 to 69, that seems like how did they do that? (18:52) Could they really identify the problem and fix it that quickly? Right. And to your point, (18:58) that’s how it all had to be done.Back in the day, it had to be trial and error. You (19:02) in Russia’s sense, OK, Russia had a rocket that I think there’s a really interesting documentary (19:08) about the style that rocket that they used initially in their race. The way it was built (19:13) is so well engineered that they’re using it.As like a template for like Future Rock, (19:19) it’s really interesting, I’ll I’ll find I’ll share that with you. But what it was was they (19:23) had 12 or 13 flights planned. So all the first four blew up in Russia.So they they’re like, (19:30) OK, well, we tweak that. We tweak that. We tweak that.And then they just stop the program. (19:36) They didn’t continue that. The whole point was manned.No, no, no. They were all in man. OK.(19:41) And the point was to get the rocket where they needed to go. But they all always blew up on the (19:45) tarmac or they make it halfway up and then crash back down. Right.But they had it. They just (19:49) needed to fine tune it. And you can’t do it in a vacuum like now with computer.You had simulations. (19:55) So to your point, what they did was and did you watch First Man at all? Oh, yeah. Watching that (20:00) scene of how they did it with the like the I hearing the audio, the radio.Oh, yeah. Hearing (20:08) that in the cockpit in the I’m going to get all crazy. Yeah, it’s fucked up.You’re burning alive (20:14) yet. Well, they died so quickly, but they were talking. Well, yeah, but they weren’t until they (20:21) were right.Like I know. But it’s just that. Imagine seeing the flame coming out.Like, (20:25) yeah. And then you but you’re dead in like seconds. There’s you’re just shark.Yeah. But (20:30) regardless, that was so heartbreaking to hear that. Yeah.Looking inside, just seeing just (20:35) ash. Yeah. You’re just gone.Yeah. But to your point. So basically, the thing about Gus Grissom (20:41) made interesting.I didn’t know that he spoke. The point was he spoke out pretty critically of (20:48) the program. He said, there’s no way we’ll get there.You know, we’re wasting our money. He was (20:53) pretty outspoken about that. The the image in the in the episode of the clothes hanger, clothing (21:03) hanger with the lemon on it that he hung on the spaceship, which I didn’t know this.But apparently (21:09) that’s the symbol for this aircraft is a lemon. Right. Do you believe that that’s accurate, that (21:16) he did that? Do you think that that’s what you think that that is true? The way they painted (21:24) the conspiracy, he hung it and took the picture.Now, guys in America, a lemon, you can get a (21:30) lemon in a car and a Ford. Right. I mean, they call it a lemon.It’s always been it’s been the (21:35) case. Right. It’s kind of like the whole thing.When you get lemon, make lemonade. I mean, there’s (21:38) lemons have that kind of connotation. But he actually said he was claiming this thing was (21:43) a lemon by hanging a lemon on a hanger on the fucking rocket itself on the capsule.(21:48) That was really freaky. And I don’t know. I wasn’t alive.I didn’t know the reaction back (21:53) then. I’d love to see. But I had never televised.Did anyone know, like, how far did that picture (21:59) get circulated? Right. Back then, you could control a lot of media way differently. There’s (22:04) no I can’t tweet.There’s no leaking of information then unless you had an inside source. (22:10) And that was taking a piece of paper and taking it to The New York Times. Right.Imagine me taking (22:14) a picture on Instagram right now of a picture on the lemon. And now all my millions of Gus (22:19) Grissom followers. Right.So he was just and that was kind of the final straw. They they (22:26) theorize or. Yes.Hypothesize. Yes. And then the tragedy.And then you go, did they kill him? (22:34) First of all, did they also kill two other completely to make it look like it was an (22:38) accident? Like because some guy was outspoken against the government. What’s scary in today’s (22:44) world is we’ve come across things that have happened like that. So telling me that is that (22:50) asking me like a question.It’s very feasible to me. Absolutely. The government’s done way worse (22:56) for way less reasons.It’s eerily feasible. And actually, this is one of the biggest reasons to (23:02) do it. You’re against you’re trying to show your prowess to the world compared to the other people.(23:09) Right. The Russians. So, yes, you U.S. freedom, America, capitalism and the direct form of (23:16) the direct.Yeah. You’re you’re in the Cold War. Yeah.So who wins? Right. That’s really what it (23:22) came down to. We had to win the race because we didn’t put the first man up.We didn’t put the (23:25) first dog up. We were way behind. Then why didn’t they just say, hey, Gus, you’re not the number (23:30) one guy anymore? I think I don’t know.You’re out of the program. Right. And that’s the way (23:35) you know too much, because he was too.He knew all the secrets of how he could. I mean, he could (23:40) we should have known if he was if he was maybe if it’s conspiracy. Right.And if he was supposed (23:46) to be the he was the first guy. It wasn’t Armstrong. It was Gus.Gus was Gus was supposed to go. Yeah. (23:53) And if he was already practicing on the set, he’s got all that.He’s got all that in his back pocket. (24:00) They’re you know, I mean, you can’t let him go. You have to kill you.You have to make certain (24:05) that that information doesn’t get out. I’m never going to say to kill anybody, but you have to make (24:09) sure that information doesn’t doubt what’s the best way to do it. Yeah.You know, there. So that (24:15) was a big one. Yeah.Well, that also goes back to what we said three episodes ago about (24:26) Operation Northwoods and how the most senior government official was wanted to kill American (24:31) citizens to lure Cuba into a war. So that doesn’t you know, we who knows how many Americans would (24:38) have gotten killed just to lure Cuba into a war so that unfortunately more American soldiers would (24:44) have died. And this is one dude.And it made it to the president’s desk. Yeah. Let’s not kid (24:50) ourselves.Northwoods, which we talked about in our other one, was made it to the president’s (24:57) desk to sign. He just didn’t sign it. Right.So, hey, guys, we need to be Russia. Let’s be honest. (25:03) It’s Kennedy and Johnson during the 60s.Right. And then next to sixty one. Right.Sixty one. (25:11) He’s an he’s inaugurated, but they’re already behind the space race. Yeah.I mean, Gagarin, (25:16) all those guys, all that shit happened. Right. So we were behind with Eisenhower already.Yeah. We (25:20) were already behind kind of Russia. And we talk about Operation Paperclip, too.We can kind of (25:26) add in. We’ll talk about that again. But so so sixty one and then he died in sixty three.Yeah. (25:32) Johnson served the remainder and and one term. Correct.Correct. So he served to sixty eight. (25:38) So really, that decade was the Kennedy Johnson.Correct. Decade. Correct.So when Kennedy started (25:45) in sixty one, it says we’re going to put a man on the moon in the next ten years. (25:50) Era, era. When he did that, now we had to.We if if we’re going to say we’re the superpower that (25:59) we are, whatever. Yeah. We have to do what we say we’re going to do.Yeah. At least to the world. (26:05) Right.So so that’s really interesting. And I’m curious how far it got, even in Kennedy (26:10) from sixty one to sixty three. How far did it go? Because obviously he was gone then and Johnson (26:14) would have been the one who really inherited everything.And Nixon would have been he was (26:21) elected in sixty eight. Correct. Starting six.So he actually got the moon landing credit. (26:27) Well, it happened during his presidency. Right.And it happened. That’s just popped in my head. (26:32) It only happened in his presence.Correct. Sixty nine. Seventy one.He he resigned. (26:39) Seventy three. Seventy seventy one or seventy three, because, well, Ford, he had seventy two (26:44) would have been another election.Right. Yeah. Didn’t he get reelected? He did.And then he (26:50) resigned because it had to be between sixty nine and seventy three. Sixty nine. Seventy (26:55) four.Seventy five. That he got that that Nixon never ran for office. (27:01) Nixon got reelected and then Watergate happened.Oh, so Nick’s. OK, so that’s what happened. (27:05) Nixon was serving a second term when.OK, I think we’re going to figure that out. But regardless, (27:11) between is sixty nine. It’s definitely.Well, no, Nixon would have come in seventy three (27:16) because Carter got elected. Seventy six. Correct.So seventy two was when Nixon got elected. (27:21) Reelected. OK, because it was sixty eight.Right. We got to look at when was when they (27:30) was when the Democratic National Convention was in Chicago and there was the riots. (27:36) Right.And that’s where that Nixon got the bid from the Democratic Party. He was Republican. (27:46) We’re going to look that up.But regardless, anyway, it’s pretty much in Nixon’s. Yeah. Tenure.(27:52) What I thought anyone else. Yeah. And then it stopped in seventy two prior to any prior to (27:58) Carter.Seventy six. Correct. But there was no that was just this little little window years (28:04) of 12 people landing on the moon.How long? Three years. Three years. My Christopher Walken.(28:15) What we need more cowbell. That’s fucking what I what I thought during the episode was (28:22) the day that the moon landing took place. How many American soldiers were killed in Vietnam that day? (28:32) I have no idea.But wow. So America was in Vietnam for 10 years. Fifty three thousand (28:40) Americans died.The likelihood of a soldier dying on that day is very high. (28:48) Probably 15, 20, 40, whatever. Right.So can you imagine. Watching the moon landing (28:56) and a priest and a major in the army knocking on your door. I’m so sorry, Mrs. Johnson, (29:05) but your son, Brian, was killed in Vietnam three days ago.Can you imagine associating (29:10) the moon landing with your son’s death? No, but it was fucking. But think about (29:16) think about how it just gave me chills. Think about think about how I’ve got other things (29:21) to think about.Think about how I don’t jaded those parents and the sister and brother. (29:31) Imagine you’re 12 and your 18 year old brother was killed in Vietnam or 19, not a 19. Your 19 (29:37) year old brother was killed in Vietnam.And you find out three days later, but he was killed on (29:42) the day of the first moon landing. And you’re like, you automatically associate the moon landing (29:50) with your brother’s death. And there’s nothing you can you can nothing you can do about it.(29:55) Every time you turn on MTV and you see the rocket done, done, done. Oh, shit, (30:02) with the guy in the little MTV flag. Every time you see the MTV rocket go up, man, don’t don’t (30:08) blow my mind like that.You see, you know what I mean? And that all happened in my head in like (30:11) five seconds, like because the whole thing was about the moon landing, whether it was fake or (30:18) not. That’s not the point right now. Right.But. America, not only America, the world believed (30:24) it happened. Right.And what did that mean? Right. Like, go ahead, finish the point, because (30:28) I’ve got the American taxpayer and the American government spent billions. It was it was 25 (30:36) billion or some nine billion.It was a huge number in 60s numbers. Yes. So trillions now.Oh, my God. (30:44) Adjusted for inflation. I don’t even know the number.But they that day when that moon landing, (30:51) when that Apollo rocket took off three days earlier and when they landed on the moon, (30:55) that’s all the world looked at. They did not give a shit about Vietnam that day. (31:01) Well, we were the only I don’t know.I wasn’t. Well, I’m going to I’m going to say that America (31:05) is pretty much the only ones left in Vietnam. So all it matters for the world doesn’t give a (31:09) fuck about the American.And I always wondered. That’s what I’m saying. We’re going to talk about (31:12) that’s what made me think something different.But I am assuming the American public, (31:16) they watch the news every night and they saw the Vietnam War on TV every single, (31:21) you know, in front of their fucking TVs with their TV trays and their fucking chauffeur, (31:25) sofas, stoufers, excuse me, stoufers, TV dinners, TV dinners that had those covered with this. Yeah. (31:31) I mean, I didn’t I wasn’t alive, so I don’t know.But I imagine that they watched the war on TV (31:38) because that was almost every day. Well, NBC Nightly News. Yeah, every day.But during that (31:42) time. The moon landing was was. Unbelievable, because it literally was not on the planet.(31:52) Yeah. And but yet there was boys that couldn’t have a fucking beer that are dying for their (31:57) country for in a rice patty. And that was also to do what do you know the reasoning (32:03) for being in Vietnam was what democracy to fight communism, right? Like that’s what all (32:09) these things were fights against.It’s stupid. That’s, you know, MacArthur. Let’s bomb fucking (32:15) Korea before it gets a little extreme people a little bit extreme.But but you see my point (32:21) about yes, Vietnam was overshadowed by the moon for I don’t know how for how long it was a good (32:30) a good two, three days till we got another shiny. Right. But then.And when do we pull out of (32:34) Vietnam? Do you remember the three seventy three is the last officially was the Saigon was the (32:38) site and all that shit. Yeah. And so but this is what’s interesting is like, think about it like (32:44) this.What other factors do does America need to fucking get on the moon? Why else besides just (32:53) beating the Russians and looking good? We were losing for like five to 10 years in a war. (32:59) I didn’t it didn’t even I didn’t think about Vietnam till you just said it. And it’s like (33:04) we were losing.The last four or five years, 65 to 70 were probably like, well, like what I’m (33:10) saying is ever win. But do you remember how the propaganda spun to like the reality of like we’re (33:15) losing this? If you look at this is not good. If you look at what was the date of the Pentagon (33:19) papers written by the goddamn Secretary of State McNamara, he said this is an unwinnable war.(33:27) Yeah. So every day on TV, on the news, young people are getting killed. Americans, only (33:34) Americans.The world could give a fuck. They were gone. They left and told us not to go in (33:39) the 50s.Yeah. Do you remember conspiracy theory, Gulf of Tonkin? Holy shit. They’re all kind of (33:44) coming together.But to your point, we’re losing a war day after day after day, 24, (33:51) seven for the last four or five years. America kind of needed a win. Oh, yeah.(33:57) And they were desperate for a fucking win. But yet. Yeah.So why didn’t we pull out? (34:01) Because it’s embarrassing. Well, this with this, we shouldn’t go down to there. Well, (34:06) there’s two sides of that, right? One is like, how can we how can we control the world physically, (34:10) like on the boots on the ground, all that shit? Yeah, like part of it.But how do we beat them (34:15) philosophically? Or how does capitalism become communism? Right. How does democracy need be, (34:20) you know, tyranny or whatever? Right. You know, so that there’s so many different angles.(34:23) Yeah, but I’ll be honest, man, we’re lucky to fucking be in democracy. (34:28) I know it sounds crazy, but the shit we do for the shit we have, man. (34:34) You mean like tinfoil hats? And I could get it at Costco right now if I wanted.(34:40) Just put your mask on. 800 miles for $32,000. That’s like their bulk.Yeah. Five gallons of (34:48) fourth mortgage for all the foils. But to your point is like we need to win badly.(34:56) And how it just make like logical sense. You pumped all this money into this, right? Adjusted (35:02) for dollars, whatever. I think it’s 25 million or billion, if I’m not mistaken, in 60s money.(35:06) Did you look it up? I didn’t. But Nixon was 69 to 73. So yeah, I know it was a reelection.(35:12) It’s pro. Whoa. I’m good at states, but not capitals.Alaska. Juno. I mean, I don’t know.(35:24) No, do you know? Do you know? Do you know? Um, you know, who’s coming over for dinner? (35:34) So I’m going to look that up while we talk some more, but to your point, we’re losing all this (35:38) time. We need to win. You’re spending X amount of dollars and I’ll get the dollar amount in a second.(35:42) But imagine spending all that money and getting nowhere. At what point do you go? Well, what’s, (35:48) I don’t know the numbers, but what’s a hundred million dollar studio in 1960. What could that (35:55) buy that 25 billion didn’t write or whatever.It’s like, Oh yeah. Drop in the fucking bucket. (36:00) Don’t you think it, let’s say it is fake and it was filmed in a sound studio in Hollywood or (36:07) wherever or London.Yeah. So it would cost nothing. Right.It would be, it would be, (36:15) it would be one 10th of 1% of NASA’s budget. It would be like, it wouldn’t even be a million (36:22) dollars. It would be a shitty second rate movie.25.4 B billion with a B. Can anyone see that? (36:32) Is that today’s dollars? No, that’s, that was actual dollars in the sixties. Yep. (36:36) April, 1961 or 1961 to 1973.Wow. 25.4 B with a bit. So 2 billion a year, two plus billion a year.(36:48) Think about that. And, and, and let’s just talk logically. Now, if we got nowhere, yes, (36:55) we’re after that.And we had to win. I think of alternatives. I’m not saying to fake it, but I’m, (37:01) Hey, can we get another idea up here? Cause we need to win.We need to win. Right. (37:05) What else, what other options might there have been? Why do we need a wind? I mean, (37:09) okay.Let’s not talk about Vietnam. Why did we have to beat the Russians in the space race? (37:15) Same reason we went into Vietnam. The spread of communism was a scare.There was a scare (37:20) from the fifth to the moon. No, because it looked to the world like we were weak. If right.If I (37:27) was a country, a fledgling country, like if my name was Castro and I’m like, Hey, I want to, (37:32) you know, obviously it wasn’t done that way because it was a revolt, right? It was a revolution, (37:35) but say I owned a country and I wasn’t sure which way I want to go. (37:40) And America’s like, well, you should have free election, man. This capitalism shit, (37:44) this democracy is really awesome.And you got, Hey, no, this, this communism, great idea. We (37:49) got to look, Hey, look, we got on the moon forest. If it wasn’t for communism, you not get on moon.(37:55) So it was more of a, it was the, the show of the power, the reach, like to get to the moon would (38:01) be saying that you can reach further than any human as a society ever has. Right. So it makes (38:08) sense.It’s all political bullshit, man. But so are fucking wars. Like, let’s not kid ourselves.(38:14) Like it’s all about power control, whatever. It’s how it looks. I never heard Johnson ever (38:23) talk about the space race.I’ve never seen. Now that I’m thinking, I’ve not seen Lyndon Johnson (38:28) make a speech. I’ve seen Kennedy speech a million times, right? Not because it is easy, (38:33) but because it is hard.Yeah. But go Boston Patriots, New England’s best, best clam chowder (38:41) drinking from the bubbler. Your accent might be worse than my Dreyfus.Oh shit. Oh, we got a hat (38:50) down. We got a pipe.(39:03) He’s like, he’s like Sputnik. That boy on a toothpick. He’s like, he’s like Sputnik.That (39:09) boy sleep on a big pillow. Oh, it’s big pillow. His big pillow.It’s like an orange on a toothpick. (39:16) That boy, he’s going to cry himself to sleep in his big pillow. By the way, I think that’s, (39:21) that’s going to be, that’s going to be on there.Or it could just be Steven Wright falling asleep (39:26) in the plane, flying plane. So I married an ex-murderer, ladies and gentlemen. We can fucking (39:33) bring in anything.So back to the moon tangent. I don’t know, man. I don’t, I don’t.So we’ll, (39:40) well, now we’re watching this stuff and let’s get down to the nitty gritty. (39:44) Did we have the technology to put tinfoil literally on the outside of these things and land them on a (39:49) foreign surface? That’s one sixth the mass. How do we have all the engineering, the numbers using (39:55) slide rules and whatnot? No computer simulations, all manually done testing and practicing on the (40:02) earth, which is a totally different gravity, you know, and they talk about the simulation.Gravity (40:06) was similar, like in the water and all that stuff, but like, go, uh, fuck. I got nothing. (40:12) Seriously.So do you think we had the technology to fly up, escape the atmosphere to meet the moon (40:22) as it’s coming around? Well, actually it’s a, it’s tidally locked. So it re it revolves. It always (40:27) faces the earth, the same size faces the earth.So it’s never, it’s not like spinning on its own (40:33) axis, like the earth does. Correct. But it’s also like, yes.And it’s also got its own weird orbit (40:38) where it’s always facing the earth, but you have to shoot out here for it to come, you know, (40:41) around. Yeah. So like, you have to do all that math.Well, that’s not that hard in a vacuum, (40:49) which space may have been at some point. They didn’t know. Right.So like what other (40:54) obstacles could you run into that would cause us to miss? Oh, we’re out of fuel. Boom. We were (40:58) behind it.Well, you know, or we’re ahead of it and you can’t slow it down. Like the millennium (41:01) Falcon and fuck how many parsecs? Enterprise and shit. All of those.Fuck Boba Fett’s shit. (41:07) We got all kinds of fucking problems. What parsecs bro? All the parsecs.Um, so that’s (41:11) the first thing. Do you think let’s break it down. Do you think that technically we could do (41:14) that part, get there, like physically just shoot a rocket on the moon? And I think the answer is (41:19) yes.Cause I think Russia did a robot. They have a, they had a, I think they actually landed (41:24) something on the moon before we did like a sex spot. No, like a tank ish looking thing, which, (41:30) which probably sounds like every ex-girlfriend I may have been with.That doesn’t sound very (41:36) appealing. It sounds very Russian. It’s very, very Russian.Does that sound like (41:41) check Mark’s first wife? Oh my gosh. My first wife was very much like a tank. She was built (41:46) like a goddamn armored transport carrier.She’s like, you know why she was ATP. You know why she (41:53) was built that way? Why? Cause there were 32 people inside of her at the same time. Well, (41:58) I was doing it.I put on beta max. (42:06) DADV. So, so the Russians, please answer my, well, what do you think we, the technology, (42:12) at least just shoot a rocket from here to get to the moon? The trajectory and the, the math (42:18) and the physics, I think, I think is, is not complex because we understand gravity and we (42:26) understand mass and acceleration and we, okay.It takes a certain amount of, okay. We know the (42:34) weight of the rocket is X. We know the fuel is Y. We know to break the gravity is Z. So we, that’s, (42:42) you know, and these dudes are all doctors in, in fucking physiology. And so we got a doctor for (42:49) the PhD, not a fucking medical doctor.We got a PhD for to take care of the astronauts. We got a (42:55) PhD. That’s going to be a structural engineer for the fucking, the Saturn five.So everything (43:04) in theory, I think is relatively easy for them. Well, I’m breaking it down into multiple parts. (43:12) My first question simply is, do we have the technology at the time? Do you think to just (43:18) shoot a rocket, point it and hit the moon? And your answer is yes.Right. I agree. I agree with (43:23) I think we can figure out Newtonian laws to figure out the orbit and hit it and get it on.(43:30) We’re talking about a dart on a dartboard. We’re not even talking about the lander yet. We’re just (43:34) talking about, can you shoot a rocket crash something into the moon? That my point is just, (43:38) can we just get it to the moon? That’s the first step, right? Cause you can’t land anything until (43:42) you get out of earth.Okay. So even better. Can we escape? Yes, we can.We just keep the (43:48) rockets a little more fuel. We don’t, we don’t turn, we go straight and we just get away from (43:52) the ground. Right.Yeah. I think we can easily get away from that. Do you, I also think we can (43:57) get to the moon physically.I think you could just, Oh, when it crashes into a fucking greater, (44:02) what are your thoughts on that? Cause if you can’t even answer that, then the whole thing’s (44:12) fucking fake. I go back to the, the, the point about two years earlier, we couldn’t even get (44:19) off the fucking launch pad with the same rocket. We died, not even launching.All they were doing (44:26) was putting oxygen into the tank and pressurizing it. And a spark blew the fucking thing up. (44:31) So I, unless the only way I can say yes to your question is unless the issue was something (44:40) relatively simple, they said, Oh, this hose wasn’t tightened enough.Right. But how did you, (44:47) how did you not double check that fucker? And it was a spark. So it was a, there was, (44:50) there was some electricity thing as well.Right. Like, cause it was a spark that ignited the (44:57) oxygen, the heavy oxygen atmosphere. Correct.Yes. Correct. So, yes.So it was really just a (45:02) loose wire. I mean, it could have been a faulty any, I mean, think of all the different parts (45:06) and screws and how, like how it was built back then and compared to how it’s probably built now. (45:10) Much differently.Yeah. I just think that, I mean, it’s a fucking erector set in my opinion, (45:15) yeah. But you, you have the smartest people in the world other than the Russians.Yeah. Okay. You (45:21) have the smartest people in the fucking Western hemisphere.So you have, how do you not have (45:28) a quadruple checklist? Right. And that was just a test. How, but we have had multiple rockets blow (45:37) up.But why wouldn’t you just do that exact same test unmanned? Well, here, here’s a good example (45:47) of that. Challenger was 86. Yes.So let’s go to 67 because that’s when that tragedy happened. (45:58) Yes. Right.So almost 20 years later, 19 years later, right. A fucking O-ring that just was (46:07) too cold crack. Like you need every bit of the billions of things that can go wrong to not go (46:14) wrong.Yeah. Right. I mean, it, here’s an example is like you talk about people who like get away (46:19) with murder or whatever.The police aren’t that fucking smart. They only need to find one thing (46:24) that you didn’t fucking cover your tracks. Right.There’s a billion things, whether it’s a fingerprint (46:29) or a hair or this or that, all you have to do is fuck up one thing and the whole system shuts down. (46:35) Yeah. So I can understand that being a tragedy.However, in the light of the Gus Grissom, (46:42) which I didn’t know because I wasn’t alive then, I didn’t know about how, how outspoken he was (46:50) against what he was even doing. Right. And what point his popularity would have been like, (46:55) this is bullshit and we’re not even going like, it’s tough.It’s tough. (47:02) I have a hard time answering your question with the, and nowadays I’d be like, oh yeah, (47:08) they could have fixed that shit in three, four months. No problem.Oh, I think it would have (47:11) been, well, look at the dragon. The dragon was a brand new tech. This last launch, that was SpaceX, (47:17) SpaceX dragon, the one that was just launched with people for the first time since Columbia, (47:22) right? The one that crashed coming back to Texas, 12 years, 12 years, three years, 12 years, times (47:28) four times four.Uh, that happened and that was never flown before. Did that launch everything? (47:36) I don’t, I saw the, it was like a big iPad. I watched it live.I’ve got a conspiracy about (47:41) that one. You’ll love it. Oh, I can’t wait.Can’t wait, bro. Cause it’s part, it’s on the tail end (47:45) of this one or I could do it now, but I’ll wait. No.So I, it’s my opinion that yes, we can launch (47:53) an un, just a hunk of metal at the, at the moon and make it land on the moon. I think we have the (47:58) technology in 69 to do that. So barring anything blowing up, I think we could do that.Now let’s (48:04) reel back. Can we launch something into orbit, connect to something, you know, that orbital (48:12) landing thing, right? And then go land the fucking thing with whatever limit, if you remember, (48:19) it was like, it costs X amount per ever pound that goes up into space. Imagine what that was in 69 (48:24) or how hard it was because we didn’t have that technology.We do now (48:29) that in every ounce, a paper clip would have fucking, um, there’s a really interesting one, (48:36) supposedly some spring in one of the fuses, uh, broke to get off, to get off the moon (48:41) allegedly. And they took a spring out of a pen. Wow.Fix a few. That’s an interesting one. (48:47) And that’s a story.It’s like, but you’re like, man, that’s a really big hero story, isn’t it? (48:51) But I digress on that. So then the second thing is, I’m sorry. No, please finish.Oh, (48:57) it please. Second thing. Uh, it’s just, okay.So it’s my opinion. We can get there with a hunk of (49:02) metal. Now the question is, can we orbit land, take off again, reconnect, come back.I mean, (49:09) it’s a lot of steps, but you had a point. So I guess I’m not familiar enough with, (49:15) you said, so we launch off the earth and then we dock with something. Well, (49:21) I remember watching in first man, they had to stop the thing from spinning so they could connect (49:26) with something.You remember that? Before they go to the moon. Right. Before they go to the moon.(49:30) I think they shot up the orbiter for, look, I’m not 100% verse regard, but the thing is it had to (49:37) at the moon, it had to detach land. And then the other part had to come back with two people. Now, (49:43) right.Look, no atmosphere. One six, the gravity of earth. Yeah.I can easily see you could (49:49) fucking just float away. You could fart hard enough to get up. Yeah.Right. So like I get (49:54) that part probably was less of a challenge, but we’ve never landed on a foreign surface. We’ve (50:01) never, none of that.They put weights in their boots. No. You think so? Because if you look (50:07) the way they supposedly are floated, they jumped around and shit.Remember they did this thing, (50:10) but you know, there are people saying that they pulled on cables for that. So basically with one (50:15) six, the earth, you just jumped six times higher. I got vertical bro.That’s how I can play (50:22) basketball. That’s, that’s the end of the pocket. I can play basketball.I’m going to be the new, (50:26) the moon slayers. Yeah. Oh, 32 foot basketball court.Uh, I mean tall net. Yes. Yes.Anyway, (50:36) you were going to say something else though. I just didn’t realize the connecting thing. (50:39) Yeah.I knew about the moon Lander and then they, there was two parts and then they, (50:45) at the, at the moon surface, they left the bottom section there and then they re and moon’s (50:52) atmosphere or moon’s orbit. They reattached with John orbiter and then they came back to earth, (50:58) but I didn’t know there was a section in the earth’s orbit that they docked with. (51:03) Now, hello to the world.Oh Jay. I would like to say that this is watching first man. So I can’t (51:10) say how accurate this is, but I remember they took off and he was spinning, spinning, spinning, (51:16) and I had to get the thrusters to keep from spinning too much so they could connect to (51:20) something.I thought that got them to the moon, right? Cause they had the thing on the end of it (51:27) cause they needed propellant. I could be wrong. The rocket itself is not what got them to the (51:32) moon.That just got them off the plane. Correct. I mean, remember those stages break off, right? (51:36) The Saturn five stages.So you then need something with fuel to get more fuel. Okay. Right.So (51:43) I don’t want to, I’m out of my breath in depth, but it’s my understanding that something was (51:47) shot up first and then we connected to it and then go. It’s kind of like the space station. (51:51) It makes sense to fly to the space station, do all the fucking assembly and then shoot it from (51:55) there.It makes total fucking sense. Of course. So anyway, so there’s that.Do we have that (52:01) fucking technology? Right. I don’t know if we have it now. I mean, I, I, I love the thing, (52:09) all the composites and everything.I just don’t know how we could do it. Like, do you ever get (52:13) lost in the fucking woods and like have no, and you’re a fucking human and it’s the woods. I’m (52:19) pretty sure I’m a human and it’s the woods, bro.I have gotten lost in the woods and you’re not a (52:23) vacuum, not wearing a space suit, whatever, wearing a vacuum or a space suit. How’d you (52:27) freak out? I don’t even like to vacuum. I have freaked out in the woods.Right. And I have a map (52:33) too. And I’m like, dude, I don’t know where I am.Don’t freak out. Right. So, and I understand we’re (52:38) not wired like those people are trained.Yeah. However, if you’re in space, two people on a (52:47) celestial body, that’s not named Kate Upton. Hey now.Hi Kate. How you doing? You know, (52:56) Justin Verlander’s watching this out there, right? Oh shit. Hey Jay.What up bro? What’s (53:01) up JV? You got a mean slider, dude. Among other things. I bet you slide her just fine.(53:09) That’s going to hurt later. Are we going to pay for that one? Is that, is that defamation of (53:13) character? Just saying she’s a good fuck. Uh, I’m just kidding.Oh, do you like her catching? (53:19) Hey, Oh, all right. I pay for a lot of things. Jesus.What I love about our conversational (53:28) style though, is we address these issues as we fuck up. We don’t end it as you fuck up. Okay.(53:34) As I fuck. Thank you. Um, um, Mr. Verlander and Mrs. Upton.I don’t know if they’re married. Oh, (53:41) are they dating? Yes. Are they? At least they’re fucking.Well, they’re living together. Okay, (53:46) cool. Um, both of you, I think you’re both amazing people.I just think Kate, (53:50) you’re extremely attractive. They both work out. They’re hot.He must work out. That’s exactly (53:57) right. Oh shit.I have a feeling the one, that topic I came up with for BG for next time is (54:02) really good one. I concur. Anyway.So back to the moon, back to it. Um, two people like here, (54:14) go do your shit and come back. You do pretty fucking self-discipline to be able to not lose (54:20) your mind mentally.Yeah. Yeah. So you, and you’re alone, you’re in a little capsule with three (54:25) dudes for three days floating.Like, yeah, that one’s a road trip. I can, I’ll, you’re not, (54:33) not a chance to stretch though. You don’t get out to stretch.So it’s, it’s a road trip. Right. (54:37) It’s a road trip without, it’s like two guys in Tang.It’s road trip without the loves, (54:41) the loves trucks. There’s no subways. There’s no loves.There’s no, uh, yeah. All that pilot, (54:47) you know, shitty stinky places. And about that.It’s funny. Cause it’s like, (54:54) there’s a picture that, do you remember the guy that stayed on the capsule? Yeah. John Orbiter.(55:02) Oh God. So Mr. Orbiter was orbiting and he took a picture of the earth out the portal, (55:09) out the window portal. And they, and they said, this is all of the population of the world (55:16) minus three people.Yeah. And what’s so fun. The first thing I thought, I remember that being like (55:22) this thing, like this picture, that was the first tweet, every human being except for three.And (55:28) I’m like, if it were today’s world, it would be everybody. But two, cause a motherfucker would (55:32) have taken a selfie with the fucking globe in the background. It’d be like, Hey boo.Hey, (55:38) look at me. I’m in the background. The right hand.It would have been everybody minus two. (55:43) Just, just the thought. It’s funny.I took a picture, not him in it. That, that concept (55:48) still baffles me about where that went. That’s a whole other Knocked Conscious episode, but now (55:53) John Orbiter’s orbiting and Buzzy and Neil are making great man.That’s a one giant leap for (56:01) mankind. The fat duck flies at midnight. I just like making the sound after so much better.Hey, (56:14) okay. You there? Nope. Nope.I can’t do it. Um, over, over. What’s your vector, Victor? Roger.(56:21) Roger. Roger. Roger.I like my eggs over. He’s over. Um, so back to walkie talkies over.So I (56:29) have a question for you that you might be able or might not be able to understand the part that (56:33) stayed there. Yeah. Is that the thing that had the mirror on it that you can now like shoot your (56:37) telescope on and like, I believe so.And I wasn’t sure if I didn’t sure if they put it like your (56:44) head, this would have worked great. Ladies and gentlemen. Um, but hello, my brother.Um, so (56:55) they have alleged, well, there’s a mirror you can point at telescope. I watch big bang theory, bro. (56:59) I watch that show.Okay. And the, the nerds shown like a laser on it and you could see it in the (57:05) telescope. There’s a mirror on, on the moon, but that doesn’t necessarily, that doesn’t necessarily (57:10) mean a man or a, uh, an, a human or whatever put it there could have been there automatically.(57:17) It could just been landed there and we could say that we put it there, right? It could have been (57:22) alien, dude. Well, yeah, but we could have just shot it there, but we knew there was a mirror. (57:25) We said we put a mirror up here.It’s at this, these certain coordinates. Have you never heard (57:30) about that? No. Yeah.So when they landed, when they landed, they put a mirror on the moon. You (57:34) don’t have to look it up. I’ll just trust.Geek it out. I’ll trust you and Sheldon trust. Trust (57:38) Sheldon and the other guys.That was my joke. I was joking the whole time. Bazinga.(57:44) Is that a copyright infringer? Bazingar, (57:48) Bazingar, probably. Oh fuck. All copyrights to Sheldon.Um, in, in case you’re not watching (57:55) this on video, I’m snarling Dr. Sheldon Cooper anyway. So, so philosophically or technologically (58:05) we’re talking, right? I think we can at least just smack some, throw something at it to get (58:10) it to the crash into the moon. But the question is, can we get something to land, come back, (58:15) attach and then come back? So what would, what makes you think it couldn’t happen? (58:21) What are some of the reasons you think it just couldn’t happen? (58:26) Like I said, I think that that explosion between 67 and 69.(58:30) Time between those two events. Unless that explosion was (58:36) some freak accident. Let me, but your point about the challenger is very good because (58:40) you know, we started this, the, the, the spatial program started in 81 (58:44) and we had many successful missions prior to 86.(58:47) So that was the first, uh, uh, shuttlecraft challenge disaster. Correct. So never one is (58:54) blown up on the tarmac or anything.Not even, not even, not long. We’ve aborted launches, (58:59) but not weather or whatever. Yeah.But never anything happened. Correct. So it just seems like, (59:09) okay.In that time in the sixties, we didn’t have, we didn’t, you couldn’t react quickly (59:18) with technology because it wasn’t, it, it just wasn’t there to that point though. (59:24) It was Apollo one. I think so.I think it was also, we got 11, we had 10 in between (59:30) yeah. Within a two and a half years. So there was fast, but there were 10, but remember (59:34) the timeframe fast, but they were launching like something every month or a couple of times a month.(59:40) So I think they were kind of trying to, to defend that. If I were to defend that, I’d say, you know (59:45) what, when we were doing this, we were all in and we were launching doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, (59:49) doom to work out the fucking problems. Right.Yeah. And it just, we got it worked out in two (59:55) and a half years. That would be the argument to your point.Yeah. I’m not saying it’s legit. (1:00:00) No, I understand.And that’s a very good point. That’s absolutely a very good point. (1:00:03) Right.And I want to be clear. I’m the more you start asking me about it and I’ll be on, (1:00:09) like, I’ve heard it’s a fake, it’s not. Okay.We’ve heard that growing up. We just heard (1:00:13) cause conspiracy theories. Hello people.I’m wearing timber oil because they love like (1:00:17) roasted chicken and Turkey burgers. Yes. But you hear that.But the more I watch this now, (1:00:25) I delved into it really deep because you brought this topic up to us. I’m more confused today than (1:00:31) I was a week ago. Right.I know right now because I’m more lost. There’s no real evidence one way (1:00:39) or another. It’s just like the God thing.You can’t disprove a negative prove. It didn’t happen. (1:00:44) Oh shit.So anyway, um, we’re at, uh, the point where two and a half years. So that’s the first (1:00:52) hiccup to use. Like shit, we went from killing someone on a platform that wasn’t even launching (1:00:59) to going all the way to the moon landing, coming back.Huh? That’s a, just on logic sense. That (1:01:05) makes sense. That, that never could have.Right now at today’s, even like, let’s say in the nineties (1:01:11) I or in the computers, right. With simulation, the way we’re able to do it with those real (1:01:18) world equations. Correct.I think. Yeah. Cause you can, they build cars, they don’t make clay models (1:01:23) anymore.They, they build the car and get all the drag. Like they know the drag coefficient and (1:01:28) shit of each angle from, I mean, it’s pretty amazing. So yes, today.So back then that was (1:01:34) 50 plus years ago, only two and a half years. You know, technology in those 50 years doubled every (1:01:40) two years. Vastly, vastly different bro.Moore’s law bro. Doubled every time. I don’t even know (1:01:45) who that guy is.We talked about last time. Fuck that guy. Yeah.He’s cool though. Okay. Sure.(1:01:49) James Moore. Jimmy Moore. Benjamin Moore paints.Yes. His brother, Benjamin is the paint guy. (1:01:56) The paint guy.Yeah. Everyone knows him. Everyone knows that guy.He like covers stuff anymore. (1:02:01) He’s all over the earth. He covers.Yeah. Paint the earth. So, all right.First one, two and a (1:02:08) half years from explosion on the ground to going to the moon, coming back. Yeah. That that’s a (1:02:14) I have an issue with that.Right. I do too. I can totally, that logic makes sense to me.So (1:02:19) what other things did you glean that, that really makes you question or even just makes you think, (1:02:27) how maybe this didn’t happen? Why haven’t we gone back since 1972? Yeah. So good news is (1:02:36) we’re going to. We are? Yeah.Didn’t Trump, 2020, 2024. I thought that we were doing it to get to (1:02:43) Mars, but we’re good. Oh, we are.You never heard of it? Oh, I thought we were doing space force. (1:02:49) Oh, I have not watched all the corrals. That looks hilarious.The beginning of that looked (1:02:53) really funny. I am not watching. I’m waiting, but watch it.It’s funny. Okay. I watched like (1:02:57) the first part of it, but I’m waiting for someone else to cause a FOMO.No. What’s it called again? (1:03:04) FOMO. FOMO is fear of missing out.Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.Don’t get on a FOMO. It’s actually hilarious. (1:03:08) No, I’m waiting for someone else to say, I’m ready to watch this.You’re going to be waiting a long (1:03:14) time, bro. I know I’m going to, I’m going to, I’m going to push that kind of like that other show (1:03:18) we were going to watch together that we never did. Yeah.What do we want? Deadwood or I don’t (1:03:23) know. It wasn’t Deadwood. Oh, Westworld probably.Yeah, probably. That’s what it’s Westworld. (1:03:28) Shit.Yes. That’s it. I’m fucking going.Yeah. It’s only three seasons. I love it.(1:03:38) Um, so we’re there two and a half years from this tragedy to going there and coming back. (1:03:44) I can totally see, but once again, it could have been an act. It could have been an accident.So (1:03:49) I’ll from NASA side, I’m like, we work really hard to fucking get all the bugs out. Trust me. (1:03:55) We, we worked our ass off the, that incident gave us an insight to all the possible things that can (1:04:02) make a spark happen.So we fixed it as soon as that tragedy happened, because we didn’t know that (1:04:07) would happen till it happened. I absolutely see. I absolutely think that’s a very valid point.(1:04:14) Cool. Check mark. So, okay.So outside of that, I look like a fucking ridiculous moron. Yeah. (1:04:26) It’s fucking weird.Not it’s like bulbous is, and I know it’s, you know, I’m going to get a new hat. (1:04:32) It’s got so much character, dude. Character.Ooh. Yeah. It’s got character.Maybe. All right. So (1:04:37) besides the two and a half years between super tragedy on the ground to like all of it working (1:04:42) seamlessly without a problem, without, well, not without a problem, but getting there.(1:04:46) Since 72, why haven’t we been back? Like the recession, like monetarily money, (1:04:52) the recession didn’t really start until like, uh, uh, Carter took office in 76 and then the (1:05:00) happened. And it was the big one. It was up.That was the biggest boom decade ever up until, you (1:05:08) know, the nineties, the internet. Yeah. I mean, up until revolution, right.It was like the Reagan (1:05:13) era. It was like credit was getting, yeah. You know, America was strong.Yeah. It was like the (1:05:18) women’s shoulder pads were as big as the fucking stock market. I love that when you bring the (1:05:23) it’s true for the bears, like what the shit, you know, it’s true.So why, what, you know, (1:05:33) we will, we, you know, we ship NASA shifted from the moon to the space shuttle. I’m going to (1:05:40) rebunk your debunk. Sure.Real simple. Why didn’t we go back? Yeah. The goal was the moon.Okay. (1:05:47) Once you cross a finish line, do you rerun the fucking marathon? A lot of fucking idiots do (1:05:52) the same one over. Do you, when you win Boston, do you say I’d like to start over and go again (1:05:57) right now? The next fucking day, these idiots do it, but you understand what I’m saying, right? (1:06:02) Okay.So that’s one, the money. Once again, we go to money. What’s where’s the reward and going to (1:06:09) the moon more than those times.If we went, where’s the reward and going more, we’re not (1:06:14) getting, we weren’t getting anything. Well, maybe we stopped because we didn’t get anything. We (1:06:17) landed.12 people said, there’s nothing the fuck up here. Went back or there’s aliens up here. (1:06:24) We need to get the fuck away, but that’s what I would really think that there’s going to be things (1:06:29) that we can learn.There’s a million things we could probably learn from the moon that we don’t, (1:06:34) that we didn’t get the first time. I think we can learn a million things of about by getting the (1:06:43) moon. We learn a million things in between.Like the moon is a fucking rock that has zero atmosphere. (1:06:52) It’s not, it’s just an orbiting bot. It’s nothing.It really isn’t special, right? Like it’s literally (1:07:01) another, it’s a rock that’s just out of our reach. Yeah. So what can we learn getting there? We did, (1:07:08) we learned about propulsion and weight and distribution and everything, right? How to, (1:07:13) how to, yeah, like Apollo 13, right? How do we get back with the power of a fucking (1:07:18) percolator or whatever? That was me riding.I know. I saw you bouncing up and down in your chair. (1:07:26) I’m like, I know, I get it.That’s what it seems to do. I keep coming up with great scenes. I know.(1:07:37) Anyway. So, um, to, to bonk, I’d be like, well, the, the stuff we learned was really to get there (1:07:43) and the goal was to get there. So once we got there and we saw 12 people said, (1:07:47) there’s nothing really, it’s unremarkable.We’re probably like, yeah, this isn’t fucking (1:07:51) worth it anymore. Okay. So we got, what other things stuck out for you? Like, why haven’t we (1:08:01) gone back? That’s why I would say we haven’t gone back.Cause we, there, there isn’t anyone (1:08:06) we need to beat. We already beat them. We won the race.I know it’s, these are not good reasons, (1:08:12) but bro, give me something. Give me something we do at superpower to superpower level. (1:08:18) Come here.Sharpie on you. That has any logic. Okay.They just want to win bro. Bro. Look, (1:08:27) we started a world war over one dude getting shot.I know. How stupid is that? Like people (1:08:32) do Franz Ferdinand. People do some crazy shit.But, but the hypothesis of the spherical (1:08:43) worst episode ever. It’s my Simpsons. Okay.All right. So what’s your sound like? Nevermind (1:08:50) what I thought that was. Say it, say it.Uh, it sounded like, um, Cosby. It was like, (1:08:57) the pudding pop and the Coke. The pudding pop used to be the big thing to Naza wanted to do, (1:09:05) but they went with Tang instead.And then I went on a fucking raping rampage. (1:09:13) What if that was it? What if like powdered Jell-O was like competitor to the Tang and (1:09:18) they chose Tang and Bill Cosby said, I’m just going to fucking drug and rape women. (1:09:22) I agree.Is that kind of like how he picked, um, he phoned or what was it? Uh, pieces. Yeah. (1:09:31) Reese’s pieces one.Cause Eminem’s didn’t want to be in the movie. Yeah. And fucking Reese’s (1:09:36) pieces are fucking delicious.I know better than peanut Eminem. It took, it took Eminem. (1:09:42) How many years to get peanut butter inside technology? Well, apparently they didn’t make (1:09:46) it to the fucking moon or Mars.They made it to Mars cause they’re Mars company, aren’t they? (1:09:51) Yeah. The Mars bars bitches. Shit.All right. So shit, bro. Hold on.(1:09:57) That was our tangent, my friend. All right. Back, back.So, um, next point, (1:10:02) let’s just say for sake of argument, okay. The moon landing was fake. (1:10:09) Well, we’re not, I’m trying to get you to do first.I have a hypothetical (1:10:12) question that you and or check Mark may answer. I’ll try to answer whatever check marks. So if it (1:10:22) was fake, why was it fake to win, to pull the wool over the eyes of the Russians? Not to pull.It (1:10:34) wasn’t a pull the wool over anyone’s eyes. It was just to, to, to fake winning, to cheat. Okay.I (1:10:42) the goal was the moon. We went there. We said we’d do it in 10 years.We did it in nine and a half. (1:10:50) So we win like just so they don’t fucking, so they say face that would, that would be my guess. (1:11:01) What are your thoughts? Is it possible that the entire space race was just a distraction? (1:11:15) It always is.It was not. Yeah. It’s, it was a way to not shoot boys and boys in the boys.And (1:11:23) I’m going to say girls too, because I’m assuming there was a woman fighting at some point it’s to (1:11:30) avoid bullets, killing other people. It’s a way to win without actually putting boots on the ground (1:11:35) for land that you don’t care about. Okay.Right. I mean, the whole point of the cold war was we (1:11:41) were doing everything to shit on them without pulling the trigger or pushing the button. (1:11:47) Yeah.I was going to say it was nuclear, right? Yeah. It was. Yeah.How can we win without (1:11:53) eradicating, eradicating ratatouille without eradicating ourselves? Right. I mean, that’s (1:11:59) really what it comes down to because let’s be honest, we push the button, they push the button. (1:12:02) We’re all dead.We know that we knew that fucking day one. Yeah. So no other than a megalomaniac (1:12:08) who does not care about their life, that shit’s not going to, that shit wasn’t going to happen.(1:12:13) There’s an, there were no safeguards in place. I mean, we’ve had scares and whatnot, but come on, (1:12:17) the, I don’t know how bad the Cuban missile crisis. We should probably delve into that one (1:12:20) time.I’m curious how, like, cause I, it seemed like for us, right. The way they made it sounds (1:12:26) like we were on the brain. Right.It does. It did the way it was painted through history. (1:12:32) It sounded like it was, we were one minute away from destruction.Right. And I heard that. I heard (1:12:39) Castro was actually more into doing it than the Russian leader at the time, which was Stalin, (1:12:47) Lenin, not Lenin.Beef stroganoff. Um, Khrushchev probably. Yes.Correct. Correct. Oh, (1:12:54) so Khrushchev come in.So my, I’ve heard this story and I’ll look it up and I’ll see if I can (1:12:59) find it. But my understanding was Castro was like, let’s fucking do it. Let’s bomb.Fuck. (1:13:03) Cause he was an idealist. Allegedly cash was a very much idealist about the con.He was all in, (1:13:09) he was like, and the Russian and Khrushchev was like, bro, pump, pump the brakes a little bit. (1:13:15) We’re all going to die. If you do that, like he was all into like, go ahead, push the button.(1:13:19) He didn’t have, he was okay. Right. But he didn’t have, right.Cause he believed in a philosophy. (1:13:23) It’s like Che Guevara, right? It’s like that idealism that seems attractive, but it’s really (1:13:28) just megalomaniac mean maniacal, maniacism, megalomaniacal. Let’s go with that.Sure. Um, (1:13:39) so that’s what that seemed like to me. So yeah, is it just look at my right hand? What’s my left (1:13:45) hand doing while I’m picking pocket, right.Or whatever. Yeah. But to that end, it’s true.(1:13:51) The United States with television started getting the government started getting exposed more and (1:13:56) more for things they did, or at least being held accountable, right. A little more because they had (1:14:02) video of it or they had evidence, right. It’s different.Like right now you can all, (1:14:06) how much shit can you really get away with without somebody going, Oh, nothing. Right. (1:14:12) That’s what makes it weird is like some of the current conspiracy theories.But back then I (1:14:17) would think, be like, yeah, this stuff’s getting out of hand with Vietnam, for example, we, (1:14:22) but we didn’t get into Vietnam. We started the space race. So yeah, the space race was first.So (1:14:29) it makes sense that Kennedy was tiptoeing around Vietnam at the same time. Correct. 62 63 was the (1:14:37) first 60 advisors.Okay. So 63 was the, the brace pretty much. Yeah.Yeah. Or the, you know, (1:14:44) seal team six. Um, but that was 63 or six.Okay. So two years prior to that. Now the American (1:14:53) philosophy in my, in my estimation is stop communism, the spread of communism at all costs (1:15:00) on every front.So we did it militarily and we did it with the space race, which I do it (1:15:05) economically. I mean, we did do it economically really. Cause we prospered out coming out of (1:15:11) just like prospered like nobody’s business.A lot of other countries too, but you know, (1:15:16) it was a good time. Right. So he says 61 era era, not because it is easy, but because it is hard.(1:15:25) So then he, then he drops people on Vietnam two years later, they’re losing for eight years, (1:15:30) six years, seven years. Now Kenny’s dead at 63, but America who Kennedy, (1:15:35) Kennedy held us to the wall. Kennedy pinned us on the wall to fucking hit these goals.Yes. And (1:15:40) then he fucking left us that asshole. It’s totally getting shot like that.God damn. What, (1:15:46) what an asshole for letting yourself get shot in the fucking head. Like eight times, at least twice.(1:15:52) That’s the moral of this story, man. Don’t get shot in the head. No, don’t promise something (1:15:56) and then let yourself get shot in the head.Go to Dallas. Fuck. Um, well that’s just a general (1:16:02) rule of thumb because the Cowboys at that tell you what cowboys.So he says it brings it. He, (1:16:10) and he says, man on the moon, or he says, get to the moon in 10 years, let’s get enter Vietnam. (1:16:16) And right before he’s killed the first year, I bet the first year we probably did okay in Vietnam.(1:16:20) I don’t know. I don’t know. Is there a chart? Well, I would think after morale got shittier and (1:16:28) shittier that you just performed shittier and shittier.I would think that it was a, (1:16:32) slow, like you think about sparring when you’re like out of control. It’s slow. Like just (1:16:38) when it faster and faster, is it? Well, their answer was more bombing and more men.Right. (1:16:43) But it also killed more men. Well, yeah.Right. Cause we didn’t know what the fuck we were doing. (1:16:47) But in the beginning we were all like, Hey, let’s stop kind of them.Now we’re like, dude, (1:16:51) we’re all getting killed here. This is not fun. In a war.We had no idea how to win in a jungle, (1:16:57) in a country that it didn’t want us to put, but all of that, regardless of all of that, (1:17:04) we were there. We had to focus. It had nothing to do with the moon.(1:17:08) Well, but the moon winning the race of the moon was another shit on the, on, on cruise stuff. (1:17:14) Right. So what other technical thoughts do you, do you have about, I have none.(1:17:21) Like, well, you said like, can we get there? Right. Yeah. Do we have this? Do we have that? (1:17:25) Now, one of the things that, uh, are those all of your points about (1:17:31) how not, or, you know, I have one final point about, uh, the movie that we talked about earlier (1:17:36) today.Okay. That is all. That’s all I got.Which, which, what’s that? You want to say that (1:17:42) for the end? Oh yeah. We’ll talk, we’ll talk about that. Cause now I’d like to, I want you to debunk (1:17:47) my shit.Good fucking luck. I got nothing on this shit, bro. All right, go.So there’s a rock (1:17:53) in a picture with the number, with the letter C on it, or at least looks like a C. What? (1:17:57) Remember the prop rock? No. Okay. So that might not have been in there.It was in that other (1:18:02) one. That sounds like something on Saved by the Bell. Screech, get the prop rock.(1:18:06) There’s a picture of, of a rock and it clearly has a C on it. And it looks like a prop, (1:18:13) like you’d label it. That’s where C goes.That’s where D would go. And they didn’t flip it over. (1:18:18) I’ll show you those after it’s in the same thing as the other thing with the other movie we’re (1:18:21) talking about.It’s, it’s one of those guys put that together. So I take it with a grain of salt. (1:18:26) So it could have been just a blemish that looks, you know, like a crack could look like a C and (1:18:30) then it looks human made.It looks like an, a perfect C. It looks like that. It’s like a perfect (1:18:37) C. Think about like a chain on a chain link that this part and that part’s cut out. Like, it’s (1:18:41) like a, one of those, like a really elongated C’s and it looks like a prop.Like that’s where, okay, (1:18:46) C goes here. D goes there. So that was one.So debunk that and go, I’m going to say shadow (1:18:57) and crack. It was a crack on the rock that the shadow picked up. Weird.It’s just a weird angle. (1:19:01) You know, you get the weird thing. Like you get the sun.It looks like it’s doing this through (1:19:04) lens of a, of a film thing. Right. Yeah.That’s the first one. I would want to see it. Yeah.(1:19:12) And I’ll, I’ll show you. I want to see it. Sorry.We’ll talk about it. You want to see it. (1:19:17) Which one? No.Is that the right way? I don’t know. Um, so that’s the first one. (1:19:25) I’ll, I’ll debunk it.I’ll just say, oh, it’s a crack that just picked up the lighting. Weirdness (1:19:29) to weird picture. Okay.So it doesn’t, it doesn’t look human. No, it looks human written, (1:19:37) but how many man-made things or how many natural things we say, oh, like humans did that and it (1:19:44) never did it. Right.It’s like a stalactite formation. It looks like Jesus or the mother (1:19:47) Mary or something. Is that like when you see Mary on a piece of toast? Yeah, exactly.When you see (1:19:51) Jesus on a piece of toast, he’s just hungry. Trying to get to his next job. No, you’re not.(1:19:59) That was a joke guys. Well, do I have, do I have half a card because of you? Do I have half of a (1:20:05) get out of jail free card for, for that specific group? You mean my Catholicism? No. What are we (1:20:12) talking about? Oh, you’re Brown.Yeah, I’m not. I’m not Brown, bro. Yeah.Because I’m half Brown. (1:20:18) I’m just, you’re like one 16th. I’m Brown by associate.I’m half Brown by association, (1:20:24) quarter Brown by association. Sure. Approved.Anyway, we’re just fucking around people. (1:20:29) I did put that in there. Our intent is humor.I read that. I liked it. Our intent is humor.(1:20:35) Always. Please understand one time when I was really pissed when we get drunk and we don’t (1:20:39) record it. That’s the shit you don’t want to hear with the church.Oh yeah. Well that’s, (1:20:45) but that was real. I was pissed.Yeah. But that was a real thing. Those fuckers can go to fucking (1:20:51) hell.There’s no such thing as hell. Okay. Uh, they can burn in the streets.Well, they, they, (1:20:57) if they’re in Phoenix, they’re already in hell. So it’s fine. If they go to Valhalla and they (1:21:02) meet a Jew, can he bring challah to Valhalla or is it pronounced Valhalla? Like, like the, well, (1:21:08) is there such thing as a Jewish Viking? Sorry, we just fucking, we need.(1:21:17) All right. So I’m going to debunk the one cause you didn’t know. I thought that was (1:21:21) in the conspiracy.I conflated everything. Cause I watched 800 fucking things this week. (1:21:26) I watched like three.Okay. So that’s the one that gets me is this. (1:21:31) It’s one of three things that happened.One, we never went on the moon. Everything’s faked. (1:21:38) We did the whole thing.We recorded it and did it here. Why? I’m just, I’m seeing, giving you (1:21:44) three of the things that happen. It’s one of three answers.No shit. Number two, we went to the moon. (1:21:50) It’s real.We took all the footage. We took all this stuff and did it and came back and boom. (1:21:56) Yep.The third is the one that I’m going to ask about now. Did they, they talked about a Van (1:22:01) Allen belt, right? The Van Allen belt is a magnetic force that a whole, do we not talk about (1:22:06) conspiracy? No. Okay.The Van Allen belt is it. It’s magnetic force that holds radiation. It keeps (1:22:14) ionized things in the atmosphere.Okay. So it’s around the earth. Correct.It is, it is due to the (1:22:20) magnetic fields of the earth generates the Van Allen belt through which you need to fly to get (1:22:26) to the moon. So, okay. I, I’m sorry.I finished. No, that’s through which to fly. So you have to (1:22:31) get to the moon.You have to fly through this Van Allen belt that is riddled with radiation. (1:22:35) So is it like, like in the stratosphere, the ionosphere? It’s outside of that. So it’s the last.(1:22:42) So it’s not, it’s not even on earth. Right. Okay.So you’ve got your atmosphere, but then you’ve (1:22:47) got magnetic fields that the earth generates, right? With its spinning iron core and all the (1:22:51) other shit it’s spinning and doing that. So it’s a radiated, it’s a radiation field. Correct.To (1:22:56) simplify the definition. It’s a magnetic field that holds radiated radiation particles in place. (1:23:01) As like, almost like something you have to go through to get to the other side.(1:23:05) And is that part of like the, the thing that blocks the sun rays? (1:23:11) No, that’s the atmosphere. Totally different. Okay.So it’s outside the atmosphere. (1:23:15) Correct. Okay.It is between, it is, it is whatever the magnetic fields that the earth generates (1:23:21) creates or causes radiation to get stuck kind of there. Like it’s like in a holding pattern. (1:23:27) Think of like a current thing.It’s always, water’s always traveling on that current. (1:23:31) These radiation belts always travel along the magnetic fields of the earth. (1:23:35) Okay.Okay. I’ve seen a Discovery Channel thing on it. (1:23:37) Yeah.You’ll, you’ll see it obviously. All right. Now I know, I just didn’t know (1:23:41) it was called that.Yeah. It’s called the Van Allen belt. (1:23:43) Okay.They flew through that to get there. (1:23:46) Yes. The third option is this.(1:23:48) And back. Right. And back.(1:23:49) But every astronaut ever has to go through that. (1:23:51) No. Oh.(1:23:54) No, because remember in low orbit, we’re not in the Van Allen. It’s out. It’s, you have to fly (1:24:01) through it so we can stay in low orbit and not actually have this.We have radiation from the (1:24:06) sun and radiation from solar winds and stuff, but nothing to this alleged, the alleged radiation (1:24:13) that’s that the Van Allen belt. So the international space station is below it. (1:24:17) I’m going to, I’m going to guess.Yes, it has to be because there’s no one, (1:24:20) no one would live there unless it was shielded good enough. So it’s, it’s a multiple, (1:24:24) multiple question, right here. The other thing could have been radiation destroys film.(1:24:30) Okay. So they could have physically gone to the moon, filmed everything, came back. (1:24:37) All the film didn’t work and then recreated it.That could, that could be a lot of the footage (1:24:44) and the, the, the still pictures, for example, the footage, maybe not the video of them live, (1:24:49) right? Live. So that’s my, that was my question, but we don’t know the time we’re, we’re only told (1:24:54) when it was launched and when it was, how many people were on Twitter fucking sharing that shit (1:24:57) live? None. So I just, you know, right.So it’s one of three things. We got there and came back, (1:25:02) had film. It’s real.It’s all legit. We never did. And we faked it completely.Or we went there, (1:25:07) took film. The film didn’t turn out. We still had to prove that we were there.So we made it up then. (1:25:11) Then, then we did because there’s stock footage, things like people like astronauts with different (1:25:16) backgrounds that are the exact same image. You know what I mean? Like a promo footage.(1:25:21) Yeah. The background. (1:25:22) Right.So you could, it could have easily been that, oh shit, none of this film came out. (1:25:26) Well, we need to show that we did this. So now let’s fucking do it.(1:25:30) I’m talking about like the still pictures. (1:25:32) Yeah. So you’re saying, but so the live broadcast from moon.(1:25:36) May have been real or not. Not sure. (1:25:39) Because they said it was a four second delay.(1:25:41) Right. (1:25:42) Is that really, can, can, can video and audio really travel (1:25:47) 238,000 miles? It only takes four seconds. (1:25:50) Well, it goes to speed of light.So 186,000 miles per second squared by the 238 average (1:25:57) thousand miles at the, that the moon is from the sun, uh, from the earth for a second, (1:26:01) right? Eight and a half minutes from the sun. Remember we’re so close to the moon. Like you (1:26:05) don’t even think about how far the sun is, right? It’s eight and a half minutes away.(1:26:09) Yeah. (1:26:09) Eight and a half light minutes. (1:26:12) Yes.I understand. (1:26:13) So that distance, right? So that’s why it’s that quick. It’s pretty quick.(1:26:17) Plus remember there’s no atmosphere on the moon to do blocking, but you still have to (1:26:21) get through this other van Allen. But I don’t know if that affects radio signals. I don’t know.(1:26:26) But the second part of the van Allen bell question, if it ruined the film block, that’s fine. (1:26:31) Three people. (1:26:32) That’s was yes.(1:26:33) 12 people through fluid. (1:26:36) Through flu. (1:26:38) Flew through twice.12 people flew through that thing twice, got dosed with shit tons (1:26:45) of radiation that was not shield because they didn’t have the, they couldn’t handle the weight (1:26:48) that shielding needed. You know what I mean? Like it wasn’t going to be a lead. They weren’t (1:26:51) going to put lead cause it’s so fucking heavy.They couldn’t get it off the, (1:26:55) did they know there was a NASA? No, there was a van Allen. (1:26:58) Yes. They knew this all, this always, how did they know that? (1:27:02) Well, you can get radiation pickups from whatever.(1:27:04) So they could tell from earth. (1:27:06) You know, I’m, I’m, I’m, I’m out. I don’t know if they knew.I know we know now. (1:27:11) I don’t know if they knew then, but regardless of that, it was there, whether we knew about it or (1:27:16) not. Right.So 12 people flew to the moon and back. We’re basically eradicated. How late did (1:27:25) these people live? They lived in their seventies and eighties.There is no fucking way that if (1:27:32) you were exposed to that kind of radiation that you would not have had cancer or died early. (1:27:37) You could have gotten fried. Right.I’m just saying. So that’s one that, that I, (1:27:44) that I have a question about, you know, as you’re looking something up. Yeah.(1:27:51) The van Allen belt radiation. (1:27:58) It’s actually solar wind. Yeah.And it’s not generated by the earth. (1:28:02) It’s caught in the magnetic field. That’s why I said the ions are caught in the magnetic field.(1:28:08) Like, uh, it’s like a, almost like a current, like I’m saying, like it’s traveling around (1:28:11) the magnetic field generated by the earth. The magnetic field doesn’t generate the radiation. (1:28:17) It’s in the magnetic sphere.Yes. There. (1:28:21) Magnetic magnetosphere.Sure. Yeah, sure. So the belts and danger satellites, (1:28:27) ah, which must have their sensitive components protected with adequate shielding.Yeah. (1:28:35) And if they didn’t have that, how did the fuck 12 people get there and back and not get nuclear? (1:28:43) Holy shit, dude. That’s the one that’s most compelling for me.It was discovered in 1958. (1:28:49) Okay. Right before they started the fucking thing.Oh shit. And then 11 years later, (1:28:56) we flew through it. There’s two belts, inner and outer (1:29:00) anti-matter confinement.Pretty interesting. My God. All right.Everybody. Hello, Twitter world. (1:29:06) Listen, look up the van Allen belt, but that’s my biggest debunk or that’s my biggest thing to say.(1:29:11) I don’t know how that could have happened space (1:29:18) spacecraft traveling beyond low earth orbit, enter a zone of radiation of the van Allen belts (1:29:24) beyond the belts. They face additional hazards from cosmic rays and solar particle events. (1:29:31) The region between the inner and outer van Allen belts lies at (1:29:35) two to four earth radii and sometimes referred to as a safe zone.(1:29:45) Oops. I just want to get everybody to keep moving before we get too boring. (1:29:49) Shit.I’m trying to figure out the human, (1:29:52) the Apollo missions marked the first event where humans traveled through the van Allen belts. (1:29:59) The astronauts had low exposure in the van Allen belts due to the short period of time spent (1:30:05) flying through them. Okay.The Apollo flight trajectories bypass the inner belts completely (1:30:10) passing through the thinner areas of the outer belts. Astronauts overall exposure was actually (1:30:16) dominated by solar particles. Once outside the earth’s magnetic field, total variation, (1:30:24) total radiation received by the astronauts varied from mission to mission, but was measured to be (1:30:30) between this many, this, and this many rads.Okay. Regardless, much less than the standard of (1:30:39) per year set by the did it. What about, Oh, so it’s, so they’re saying the van Allen belt was (1:30:43) not an issue.Correct. What about all the cosmic rays and the shit outside though, that we didn’t (1:30:47) have shielding from that’s, that’s my biggest argument is we didn’t have, I don’t feel like (1:30:52) we were protected enough. That would be my personal opinion.Not one of the 12 like got. (1:30:59) Yeah. I find it shocking that not one guy had long-term effects from anything.(1:31:05) Yeah. I mean, these guys lived, I know they’re in great shape. Don’t get me wrong, (1:31:09) but they lived till 70, 80.Yeah. And they, well, they’re all like (1:31:14) genetic specimens of true, like Athena and shit, you know? So they were, (1:31:20) but they didn’t have genetics yet. They didn’t know what genetics, but they knew they’re in good (1:31:24) shape.Right. But if you look at them, they’re all pilots, Navy, Air Force Marine Corps. (1:31:28) How many guys have you seen to get cancer that are like super healthy? Like Tyson was a healthy (1:31:32) guy.Right. But he had military things, but these guys were all time. None of these guys (1:31:37) ate processed food.Correct. None of these guys, but they also didn’t understand the levels of (1:31:41) radiation they were getting on air bases from microwaves and all this other, you know what I’m (1:31:45) saying? Like all the other shit that we didn’t really think about until we started getting (1:31:50) side effects. But if you think about the, in 19, so these guys were probably born during world war (1:31:58) two.They’re, you know, so they were born there. Was he 25? I don’t know. He was probably 35.(1:32:05) So he was born at say 1940 to 1945. And you know, so it, give or take whatever. Yeah.I’m just (1:32:11) going to look up on Armstrong was born, but it doesn’t matter. Yeah. And then for curiosity, (1:32:15) so the, the amount of, the amount of cancer cases to people, you know, cause they ate, (1:32:23) they ate, they didn’t eat Triscuits.Do you know what I mean? They didn’t eat GMO Triscuits. (1:32:30) I’ll tell you that much. They ate butter and fucking steaks and potatoes and whatever the (1:32:35) fuck they wanted.It wasn’t processed shit. They died of heart attacks, not cancer. Well, (1:32:39) yeah, well they did cause they clogged their fucking arteries with like naturally clogging (1:32:44) things.Well, their biggest downfall was cigarettes and fucking cigarettes and alcohol. Yeah. (1:32:48) You know, they drink Sanka for Christ’s sake.They did. And Tang bro. Fuck yeah dude.(1:32:54) I don’t know if you knew about Tang. Just saying. I’ve been, I’ve been near Taint before.(1:33:00) Oh dear Jesus. Okay. So Armstrong was born in 30.I was way off. Well, he was, he was 15 at the end (1:33:08) of the war. So it’s not like he was old.I mean, he’s a fucking teenager at the end of the war. So, (1:33:13) and then it was another 25 years, right? So he’s 40, but that’s like, that’s the peak, (1:33:19) you know, 30 to 40 was like peak people because he went downhill after 40. Yeah.Like now it’s (1:33:24) different now with nutrition, the way it is, or if you focus on it, you can definitely extend your (1:33:30) life, take care of yourself, et cetera. So the Van Allen belts, the one that gets me, (1:33:34) it, it makes me think that it makes my opinion now that we did go there and that radiation (1:33:40) destroyed on the film. And then we copied it here, but it doesn’t explain the live, (1:33:45) the live feed.I just don’t know how much information we really knew about it being (1:33:48) live unless they went two weeks earlier and didn’t tell anybody. Right. Which I guess that’s (1:33:55) possible, but okay.If you’re in Florida, I mean, they launched from Cape Canaveral, probably (1:33:59) Florida. Yes. And then if you saw, if you saw a rocket, let’s say you lived in 30 miles around (1:34:08) there, you’re going to see a rocket and then you see one a week later and a week after that.And (1:34:11) yeah, you’re like, Oh, it’s just another test, right? You don’t know. It’s the one that’s going (1:34:15) to the moon. That’s part of it.So then they, you’re, then I, then do you see the logic behind (1:34:21) what you’re saying? Right. And then there, there are claims that they launched and came back down (1:34:26) right away. Yes.But what if it was just an unmanned rocket that they threw up there anyway? (1:34:31) And they were down here the whole time. Like, yeah, there’s no, there’s, it’s easy to say that (1:34:36) if you’re going to go this way with this argument, you can go all that way. Right.Like (1:34:39) they never, they didn’t even get in the fucking, or they got in everything showed and then they (1:34:43) launched, but it was already being done or already done. It was already recorded and they said it was (1:34:49) live and they made it more grainy. And I’m just saying that could happen, right? That’s a (1:34:52) possibility.So those are the three though. It had to either that it all happened, it all didn’t (1:34:57) happen or it did happen and we didn’t have enough evidence. So we made fucking shit up on the way (1:35:03) back, but we still did it.Think of it like, Oh shit. I went to, I went to Disney. I went to (1:35:09) Disney last week.Oh, how show, what’d you get to see there? Oh shit. I don’t have proof. I didn’t (1:35:14) take a picture.So then you go back to Disney, take the picture of you at Disney and be like, (1:35:18) see, I was at Disney. I know that sounds weird, but you know, it’s kind of like we had to have (1:35:23) proof of some sort. So that’s just a thought.I’m like, hold on, hold on. Yeah. I, I wouldn’t go (1:35:39) back to Disneyland to take a picture on Pirates of the Caribbean or Caribbean.I just go back to (1:35:46) Disneyland. Oh, it’s closed bro. It’s all covified.Don’t cry for me COVID-19. The truth is I never (1:35:59) killed you. You’re so sweet.I know. I still want to go back to my Tom Hanks impression. Let’s hear (1:36:11) it.Sorry. Can I tell you, uh, I saw Instagram. I don’t think you can tell me apparently.(1:36:19) Can I tell you? I saw Instagram post yesterday. It said happy 4th of July. (1:36:27) Mask it or tap.Uh, shit. I fucked it up. Mask it or casket.(1:36:34) Well, I heard that Khalid, the singer that did, uh, I’ll, I’ll share in a second, but (1:36:41) allegedly Khalid got COVID-19, but there’s a lot of these spoofs like Chuck. Who’s that? He does (1:36:46) a song called young, dumb, and broke to which I wrote. Oh, so I guess he’s young, dumb, and croak.(1:36:50) Oh, that’s fucking or choke. That’s what it was. It was really good.And then I beer Googled it. (1:36:57) I don’t know if he go ahead. No, please.I didn’t go ahead. I don’t know if it says young, dumb, (1:37:03) young, dumb, and croak young, dumb. That’s how the song would go.If he were going to die, (1:37:09) I know you’re going to photobomb me or something. I dude, my fourth chin just shook on your neck. (1:37:24) All right.So, so then the other, the only other thing, the, well, I mean, there’s a billion things (1:37:34) we’d go in because we’re, we’re gonna have to put a pin in this bad boy, but the other one was 23 (1:37:39) minutes broke. There’s a picture of a guy of the space guy with his mask. And there’s someone took (1:37:44) a picture of him, the reflection in the mask.There’s a thing that looks like one of those (1:37:50) floodlights with the fins on them reflecting in his mask. And they’re like, well, it could have (1:37:55) been the lander. Well, the landers in the background of the fucking picture.So it definitely wasn’t (1:38:01) the lander. So like those kinds of things, and I’ll share some of those, but ladies and gentlemen, (1:38:06) in case you haven’t been paying attention because of our tangents, we’re talking about whether the (1:38:11) moon landing happened or not and why they would do it, why they wouldn’t. So may I share before (1:38:16) we get into that actually, yeah, let’s do the movie that referenced it.Okay. So we just watched (1:38:23) something recently today. I showed it to you recently today.If they did fake it. Yes. Someone (1:38:30) had to produce it.I had to have a director and a producer and film people in key grips. (1:38:38) Apparently Keir grips, a big thing. And boom, the boom guy, the guy holding the boom.(1:38:45) So this is a question. If, who would you ask to direct it? If you were going to do a space based (1:38:57) Mooney outer space, really intricate special effects thing in 1969 or, you know, the answer, bro, (1:39:12) we talked about it earlier today. They talk about it.I know. I’m trying to think of something (1:39:16) funny, but I got nothing. Shakespeare.Yes. Really? Really? Shakespeare. The game is a flip.(1:39:23) Oh, we need to do that one. That’s a fun one. Strange things are afoot at the circle.Okay. (1:39:27) The circle K is not as good as the QT letters, letters, and anything on their own that don’t (1:39:35) spell something. Scare me.What does QT spell? It spells cutie. Ooh, like you. That’s you.Oh, (1:39:45) man. Oh, man. I was just going to say you’re cutie.So, okay. So with, to avoid Kevin Costner, (1:39:53) I think he’s a good director. Yeah.Cause he does such good accents. We were walking. (1:39:58) I was hunting antelope.Oh, back and through the front. Waterworld. Waterworld.That’s one (1:40:05) of my favorite movies, by the way. Fucking terrible. Underrated by a long shot.Best. (1:40:11) One of the best movies in the history of movies. I like Postman better than that.I like Postman (1:40:15) too. Cause the bad, the bad guy makes it. Hopper and the guy who was the bad guy in.The other (1:40:21) Hopper. Oh, the guy who was bad guy in which movie? Yeah. The other Hopper.The guy who was (1:40:24) in the, uh, yeah, but he was the other Hopper, but he was in that, uh, alien movie, not alien (1:40:29) movie. It was a TNT show. Landing things.Were they a couple of years ago? I forget that blue (1:40:34) sky, falling skies, falling skies, falling colony skies, the main bad guy in falling skies or not (1:40:40) the main good guy. Oh my fucking God. Let’s move it along.Kevin Costner. Yeah. I’m not going to (1:40:46) hit it.It’s not worth it. Okay. So who are we going to, who like, it makes logical sense when (1:40:51) you, when they bring us the name.Cause let’s be honest, you and I wouldn’t have thought about (1:40:54) this guy until they said it. And then like, Oh, Stanley Kubrick. Thank you.Why? He directed (1:41:01) 2001 a space odyssey one year before one year. And when you landing and when you compare the (1:41:09) video of some parts of 2001, they look better than the real stuff. They don’t look better.(1:41:17) They look fucking amazing. Yeah. They look, I mean, they hold up today.I mean, (1:41:21) it really does. I have to watch that again. Cause I don’t remember fucking horrible.(1:41:24) It is slow, but it’s the first 30 minutes with the monkeys. It’s so dumb. So it’s still, (1:41:30) you know, the best part about that.They didn’t throw any, they didn’t throw any bodily fluids (1:41:38) at all. I didn’t either. Thank God.Oh yeah. They you’re right. Not at the monolith.Then they (1:41:44) are monkey is as bad as your Richard Dreyfuss. How about that? Here’s my monkey. That’s fantastic.(1:41:53) That’s very good. Good job monkey. You get a treat.So Stanley Kubrick, my friend. Yes. (1:42:00) So I showed this to you today.Yeah. So 2001 comes out and looks beautiful. Groundbreaking, (1:42:05) right? Right.And then they show like what Stanley Kubrick did in zero G like it’s still today. It (1:42:12) shows an astronaut picking up the pen in space and it’s like, Holy crap. So like it may have been (1:42:18) able to do it.They may have been able. It looks like he did it. It’s true.Cause even they have a (1:42:24) little later. I mean, come on, dude. God damn.That’s such a good point. It looks like he did (1:42:30) it. You’re right.I mean, it does. So it’s 1968. You just released 2001.It’s the most visually (1:42:39) stunning of any up until that point, special effects wise, probably the most amazing special (1:42:46) effects ever. And your NASA, who are you? Who are you going to call? And they said that he (1:42:51) worked with NASA and other to get the data. Like, so he could make his movie.Yeah. They, (1:42:58) yeah. Because they had like the moon, like the base and all that stuff.Yeah. So that he could (1:43:04) so that he could get the topographical maps of the moon so that he could make the movie. So to (1:43:09) make it look realistic.Right. So he, and the astronaut outfits were based upon real drawings (1:43:15) from fucking NASA. Yes.So he did. He got a lot of data from that. He worked, he collaborated (1:43:21) with them and get the money or the information, the wherewithal, the, the inspiration world shit.(1:43:28) Yeah. The inspiration to make his stuff as grounded in reality as possible. Yes.(1:43:33) So then they’re like, Hey, Stan, Lee. Hey, Stan. He’s like, Hey, Stan, why don’t you, (1:43:42) Miss Garson.Hey, Stan, why don’t you go recreate the moon landing? Okay. Let’s go guys. Hey, Kyle.(1:43:50) Hey, Eric, Kyle. Let’s Kenny, let’s go. Let’s go to my house.We can make a, we can make little (1:43:55) cardboard, little cutouts and make the moon. And then he did it. This is the best South (1:44:00) Park episode I’ve ever seen.Thank God you don’t see it, bro. Or goodness or whatever the hell. (1:44:06) All that shit.So Kubrick. Yeah. So then we watch this thing about, okay, cool.That makes sense. (1:44:14) Like if looking mango, we decided, yeah, the whole thing’s fake, right? Tomorrow, (1:44:19) a press conference comes out and goes, yeah, we really landed on the moon now. (1:44:24) But back then, we’re sorry.We lied to you for all these years. Do you think if, and when we do (1:44:30) land this time that will, that if it’s successful, because remember now it’s water under the bridge, (1:44:36) bro, you can’t, it’s so many years removed. It’s like, well, we did it now, but we didn’t do it.(1:44:41) Then declassified. Do you actually think any government organization ever at any level will (1:44:48) ever apologize for anything? Didn’t say they apologize. I just said, we faked it.This is real. (1:44:52) We fake that one. Not apologize.No, I never, we’ve talked to Democrat Lindsay Robinson before. (1:44:59) There are no apologies by politicians. My friend, they don’t apologize for shit.(1:45:03) They can clearly state and pass the buck, right? Good at that shit. Right. You don’t need to tell (1:45:09) me that you fake the landing tool.You don’t have to apologize. Tell me that you just go like this. (1:45:15) Hi, we were in a space race.We wanted to win. We made it up, but now working with the Russians, (1:45:20) we’re now actually on the moon. Why not? I’m just curious if that would happen.You don’t think that (1:45:27) would ever would. No. Okay.And I, I would lean towards, they’ll try to keep a lid on it as long (1:45:31) as they can until it blows off eventually. Right. Sometime it’s going to have to be blown off if it (1:45:36) was a conspiracy, if it didn’t happen until the end of humanity.No, because shit gets declassified. (1:45:41) One person speaks up and then it just has like, has Eric Snowden proof. Well, yeah.Or until like (1:45:48) someone just, yeah, there’s a declassification. Like in a hundred years, no one’s going to fucking (1:45:52) care. Right.But at that point, we don’t, why would we care now? Well, because. We’re not in a race (1:45:57) with anyone. We’re not fighting anyone.People are still alive that like. That we’re still alive (1:46:01) then. Yes.Yeah. Yeah. You don’t want to ruin their illusion that it happened then.Like it’s a (1:46:06) childhood illusion that may have driven me to become something, right? Like, holy shit, America (1:46:11) can do X. Right. And are there people that are still alive that made those decisions to cover, (1:46:18) to possibly cover something up? Obviously not Nixon and not Johnson, but other people in power, (1:46:25) you know, the head of NASA, is he still alive? Probably not. (1:46:29) Werner’s gone.I don’t know. He should have been a fucking, he should have been killed in Nuremberg. (1:46:35) Okay.Well, yeah. The number one guy. Yeah.The V2 rocket. We know. Thank you.(1:46:40) So not you. I say asshole in Czech. Oh, that’s German.It’s close enough. They’re like, (1:46:50) this is, this is universal symbol for asshole in Germany. This is okay.In America. Yeah. Okay.(1:46:56) In Germany, this is okay. This means asshole. Cause you look like asshole.So if someone (1:47:03) give you okay, similar in Europe, they are not your friend. They are your enemy. (1:47:07) Cause it means awesome.Thank you for the world tour. You’re welcome. I mean, (1:47:13) welcome.Very nice. Very, very nice to welcome you. Very, very nice.So Kubrick. Yes. (1:47:22) Makes sense.And then what movie came out by Kubrick short? Well, in 1980, was it 80 or 80? (1:47:31) It was like within a couple of years. Was it a couple of years after that? (1:47:34) Dude, it was a shining. I don’t know.All right. So Stanley Kubrick does a little known movie (1:47:40) called the shining starring somebody. Stephen King.Yes. Written by Stephen King. Correct.(1:47:48) Starring Jack Nicholson. Thank you. And he’s a fucking lunatic in that kind of good in that.(1:47:53) Yeah. He’s creepy dude. The way like his facial expressions and shit.Once again, (1:47:59) two Kubrick movies that I need to go back to cause I just forgot how amazing they were. (1:48:03) I’m always stuck on full metal jacket and clockwork orange. Those are my two Kubrick.(1:48:07) Yeah. Full metal jackets. Badass dude.Oh, so fucking good. (1:48:12) I haven’t seen the shining in fucking 20 years. Yeah.It’s been forever for me. So the shining (1:48:17) comes out. I probably should need to read the book though.Cause I don’t, you know, (1:48:20) I bet the book’s amazing. Yeah. And we, the, the, the clip we saw today, (1:48:25) they said that there was some changes made by Kubrick, by, by the director, by Kubrick (1:48:31) outside of the book.Cause remember where the first thing you said to me was, (1:48:36) how could he have that monologue? It was, it was a book and I’m like, well, was it changed? (1:48:42) Yeah. Were these, these are Stephen King’s words. 1980.I was way off. Okay. So yeah, (1:48:46) the shining came out in 80.So, but think about 11 years of burdensome, like the pressure of (1:48:54) knowing and no one else knowing and hiding and not being able to tell anybody. Yeah. Like if, (1:48:59) okay.You’re, you’re conscripted by NASA, I guess, conscripted or a contract or whatever. (1:49:04) Oh, by the way, you can’t ever say anything. Yeah.And you’re the, you’re the person making (1:49:08) it happen without you. This isn’t even happening. And now that it’s happening because of you, (1:49:13) you need to shut up about it.Did he get paid? I would think like there had to be (1:49:18) a compensatory aspect to it, a massive amount of money. If there had been compensatory aspect, (1:49:24) right. But the guy was a fuck.The guy was a director for the movie’s sake. I don’t think (1:49:29) he did it to get fame. He just, that’s just what he did.But then why did they even ask him? Like (1:49:34) they saw 2001, bro. Hang on, hang on, hang on. I’m just kidding.But do they go, (1:49:38) Hey dude, we need you to do this thing. And he’s like, oh, okay. You’re, you’re NASA.I’m an (1:49:47) artist. Like, and they go, well, before we can even tell you what it is, you got to sign this NDA. (1:49:53) Right.And he’s like, what? Okay. Okay. Right.Come into this room. What if it’s like this? (1:50:03) What? It’s like Stanley, bro, we worked together last year without us. You wouldn’t have had the (1:50:08) inspiration for a lot of your stuff for your movie.Your movie wouldn’t exist without inspiration of (1:50:14) the, or it looked very different. Who knows how good it would look. This made it look realist.(1:50:17) I scratch your back. You shave mine. Okay.Boom. Now you’re NDA thing. Right.Like, (1:50:25) instead of like coming at him like that, like coaxing him and being like, Hey bro, (1:50:28) we’ve been working together. And then he’s in before it’s too late. And then he realizes, (1:50:32) oh shit, I’m in too deep.I can’t get out of this. And he did it for free. Not free.No, (1:50:38) he got calm. I’m assuming he’s, I’m assuming conversation. It’s not about free.It’s about (1:50:41) whether it’s real or not. He’s lying to everyone. He knows that he’s lying to everyone.Right? (1:50:48) Wouldn’t that be burdensome? Oh yeah. To know the, to know, to watch the guy pull the trigger (1:50:55) that hit Kennedy. And it’s not Lee Harvey Oswald.Right. I understand. And you’re told, (1:51:02) yeah, I know you saw that and you took a picture of it, but yeah, no.Like how burdensome did that (1:51:07) be? That sucks. Right. That’s what I’m assuming.So 11 years of that before the shining comes out. (1:51:11) Yeah. And then go ahead and talk about some of the scenes in shining that had these interesting (1:51:16) little stretches to some extent, but some made sense.Uh, this, the, the biggest one that I (1:51:22) thought was the, um, the son of Jack, the little boy, um, one of the first scenes he’s playing (1:51:30) with his train and his toys on the carpet and the ball rose up and he stands up and he’s wearing a (1:51:36) fucking Apollo 11 rocket sweater. It looks like he’s launching. He looks like, yeah.And it’s (1:51:43) early. You’re like, yeah. Before the movie gets super creepy.Yeah. Like, Holy dude. And there’s (1:51:49) many different.And then there’s like a shaped hedges at the top with one looking columns (1:51:55) underneath. I know those are stretches. There’s a ladder.There’s a lot of stretches where there’s (1:52:00) a ladder that looks like that’s open. That looks like an a with two pillars behind it. (1:52:04) Uh, all, all work and no play makes Jack, a boy is a 11 is a lot of a 11 references, (1:52:11) which I think is a massive stretch, but there are a lot of tapestry hanging on the side of the kids.(1:52:18) Yeah. There’s a lot of visual cues. Yeah.I was gonna say symbolism, but that’s, um, where there (1:52:27) are images that look like fucking Saturn five rockets. Right. Holy shit.And remember how many (1:52:36) people are celebrating Apollo 11 in 1980. So why does that kid have a fucking Apollo sweater on, (1:52:42) like, think about just that now that I’m thinking about that, like, well, what year did the movie (1:52:45) take place in 80? Like, was it present day? Oh, I think, you know what? I don’t think they ever (1:52:50) talked about it being a time. Yeah, exactly.So I have a feeling it was just like present day, (1:52:55) whatever, whatever present day was of their time. So he was in, say he was filming in 79, (1:53:00) which takes a year to whatever. Yeah.It’s exactly 10 years after. So really weird. (1:53:06) But the one that really got me was the monologue.Yeah. Nicholson. I don’t know if that’s in the (1:53:11) book or not.What’s her name is on the stairs with the back attack. He’s like basically verbally (1:53:15) attacking her. He’s like, you know, the responsibilities I signed a contract and I (1:53:20) can’t let them down.You know, just that in the guise of the like in the guise of the government (1:53:25) telling you what to do. Yeah. That seems very plausible.Yeah. Very plausible. Yeah.But the (1:53:32) rest is it’s sketchy, but it’s weird. It’s weird. Look at it.Why would the kid wear an Apollo (1:53:38) sweater 10 years after it happened? It’s weird, right? Like he’s a kid. They don’t even sell (1:53:43) those sweaters to 10 year olds like he’s 10. He must have bought it to fit him at 10 when he was (1:53:49) a baby.Or you got it at a garage sale, right? Or I remember getting, I got hand-me-down clothes (1:53:56) for my cousin. That’s true. I was fucking 12.You can excuse it, but Kubrick put that in there. (1:54:03) Yeah. Kubrick chose that sweater.Oh yeah. Kubrick chose every scene, every letter, (1:54:08) every whatever. Yeah.He was meticulous. Now I’m going to, I’m going to say this because (1:54:11) I can’t say it. It’s easy to debunk that.It is a stretch to say he did the symbolism, (1:54:17) but in the eye, in the filter of it being a conspiracy and he doing it, him doing it, (1:54:22) it’s possible. Yeah. So we’re there.So are you ready for the last part of the conspiracy? No. (1:54:31) Go ahead. You’re not? I mean, that was wrong.I meant, I meant something completely different. (1:54:40) I hope I don’t screw this up. Don’t even bro.Okay. So I’m going to ask you one more time. (1:54:48) Yeah.I’m ready. Um, would you like to hear my last piece? Yes. Oh, that’s not what it was.(1:55:02) So I’m a fucking geek. I’m just going to tell you right now. Dragon.Oh yeah. Dragon. Dragon X (1:55:12) space dog.Uh, crotch space, crotch space pony space pony. It’s a pony. Let’s do it.It’s ride (1:55:21) my space pony. All right. So dragon X, are you familiar with the reusable concept of space X and (1:55:30) all that? No.Okay. Basically what happens? Rockets launch pieces, break off. They used to go into (1:55:37) the ocean.Then they retrieve them and whatever. Yeah. They now self land onto landing platforms.(1:55:42) Wow. No joke. Watch the fucking videos.It looks amazing, but I’m going to say it this way. This (1:55:48) is where I get conspiracy. Okay.I love the idea of the reusable. It makes total sense with new (1:55:53) gyros. And now that we have the hover rounds and the, the segways, right? Like jet gimbals and (1:55:58) you can make gyro scopes in, you know, Silicon based.You don’t need the whole gimbals and all (1:56:03) the craziness, right? To keep shit up. Right. Okay.It’s super fast. Super amazing. Now that’s (1:56:08) like all of our technologies, like gimbal based, you know, whatever.Okay. That’s what keeps the (1:56:13) rocket long. So it takes, it takes off, breaks up this thing then goes and it falls back to earth (1:56:21) and then it straightens itself out.And right before it lands and it lands vertically (1:56:27) onto a platform, it’s fucking awesome. I’ve watched it a good few thousand times. (1:56:36) The first one I saw, I went, that looks computer generated.I’m not saying it is (1:56:46) watch the videos. Just we’ll watch them. I’m like, Holy shit.That doesn’t look real, man. (1:56:51) It looks like, first of all, it’s outside of my scope. No way could we fucking absolutely just (1:56:56) land vertically after falling.You know what I mean? Like, so part of my doubt that that’s even (1:57:00) possible. So my head gets in the way, but it looked, it looked fake. Dragon X took off, (1:57:07) right? First time we had man, we had men flying in first, in 12 years, the United States launch men.(1:57:17) The thing happens, it goes to land and you see the video of it happening right before the fucking, (1:57:23) as it’s coming down the, the, the thing’s called, I love you. The, I love you boat. (1:57:28) It’s like a boat.It’s like a docking state. It’s in the, it’s in the ocean just in case, (1:57:32) but it’s like on the ground, it shakes video goes out and then it’s upright. (1:57:36) It comes back and it’s fucking on the ground.Done. I think they turned off the feed, (1:57:43) switched to one where it’s just sitting there just in case. Cause they can say, (1:57:47) oh, the vibration of the rocket as it’s landing, cut the video, the video, you know, it shook too (1:57:51) much because I’ve seen it do it before, but it’s like the timing of that.Watch it. I was, (1:57:57) I was something happened possibly or nothing happened. It could have cut out the feed and (1:58:04) it really landed.And we don’t know. I can tell you what we saw live was shake blackout said, (1:58:12) I love you at the bottom. We’re like, why the fuck say I love you feed? Cause that’s the name (1:58:15) of the drone boat is called.I love you. And then the video fee comes on and the rocket just sit (1:58:21) in there like everything’s fine. Like, okay.It just landed weird, bro. Weird. I’m just saying.(1:58:29) So on that, Oh, with that, we are pretty much done, sir. (1:58:36) Is it full time? So one more thing, ladies and gentlemen, we’d love for you to subscribe (1:58:43) to our podcasts, www.knockedconscious.com and www.beergugles.com that’s double E double O double (1:58:54) G dot com. Uh, they all direct to our podcast that we are now live, sir.Congratulations again. (1:59:01) I salute you with my tin foil brigade salutes you. Thank you for making this happen, man.Cause (1:59:07) honestly, without, without your help, I wouldn’t have anything. Uh, but an old rambly guy who (1:59:14) probably poops himself a lot without you, sir. I wouldn’t have this hat.Well, you’re welcome. (1:59:20) Oh, you didn’t thank me. You’re speaking to comment without you.I wouldn’t have this hat (1:59:24) asshole. Thank you, sir. Asshole.And with that, we talked about the moon landing today. Once again, (1:59:31) we’re not saying one or the other, but there’s a lot of weird shit going on. And the more you (1:59:35) look into it, the more confusing it’s been for me.So we don’t know shit. We don’t know shit, (1:59:39) but that’s a great thing. We still ask.We still ask curiosity is all that matters, my friend. (1:59:45) And I love killing the cat. So look, I got nine and they got eight more after that.So you can (1:59:51) get curious eight times and still be a lot. I don’t even like math. So once again, (1:59:58) Knocked Conscious.com beer, googles.com at knocked con on Twitter.Instagram is at Knocked Conscious. (2:00:04) We’re going to put up some pictures today, but you’re going to hear this like months later. So (2:00:08) it really won’t matter, but we’re going to do that today because we had a pretty fucking successful (2:00:12) weekend.My friend, we put out some videos or some podcasts and people listened. Stop it. (2:00:18) Now we just need comments.If you have any topics you’d like us to cover, (2:00:22) Knocked Conscious is basically the more we kind of uncover things. We like to be a little more (2:00:29) global. We care about people.The reason I believe Chris and I are so angry at times (2:00:35) is out of frustration because we want the world to be, we would love the world to be (2:00:42) different than it is peace and love. Yeah. We just want to look, don’t be a dick, bro.(2:00:49) That’s really what Knocked Conscious about. Don’t be a dick. And I think lying about landing on the moon (2:00:52) is being a dick.So that was it. We’re going to have a lot of these and I’m so grateful, brother. (2:00:58) Thank you so much.Peace out. Um, subscribe, leave comments. Tell us, give us some ideas.Beer (2:01:07) Googles is great because we just fuck around. We just get drunk and look up random shit on the (2:01:10) internet. So tell us what to watch, sir.Are we out? We are. We are. Bye Felicia.Can you show (2:01:16) it one more time? My friend spirit fingers, jazz hands. Thank goodness that this thing, (2:01:33) you know, it’s really funny. I’m so stupid that I played the beer Googles ending (2:01:41) after.Why did you stop that, bro? Cause I’m not done my monologue, man. I already (2:01:49) criticized myself. All right.Well, for the, for the, for the audio podcast, uh, (2:01:55) I played the Knocked Conscious intro and the beer Googles outro. So I’m an idiot. So don’t listen (2:02:01) to anything, whether I believe in, in moon landing or not.So thanks everybody for joining. Have a (2:02:07) great day.