A conversation about Jeffrey Epstein

Chris and Mark have a conversation about Jeffrey Epstein and the 4-part documentary “Filthy Rich” on Netflix. We also discuss the interview that Prince Andrew gave to the BBC (YouTube link below).
Prince Andrew interview: https://youtu.be/AKQi3wzNFGQ
Intro Music: “Blue Scorpion” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/
Dive Horn: https://freesound.org/s/104882
Trombone Wah-Wah-Wah-Waaaaah: https://freesound.org/s/175409
Outro Music: “Neolith” Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/

Transcript:

(0:04) Broadcasting live from the Treehouse in Phoenix, Arizona. (0:08) It’s Knocked Conscious, with Mark Poles and… (0:11) Chris Woodsey-Peralta. (0:13) From the home offices in Gilbert, Arizona.(0:19) Boom. (0:20) Boom. (0:21) Boom.(0:22) Happy Valentine’s Day, bro. (0:24) You get to do the eh-eh on the Knocked Conscious. (0:27) Welcome to Knocked Conscious.Today is Valentine’s Day. (0:30) He slowly slid his hand under her. (0:33) Her dress.(0:34) The hem of her dress. (0:35) I have to ask you a very important question, Checkmark. (0:38) Yes.(0:39) Will you or will you not be wearing your church hoodie to our romantic bro date later today? (0:44) This is my church. (0:45) Oh, you have a new church hoodie? (0:47) No, this is my church puffy. (0:48) I will not be wearing my church jeans, however.(0:50) You will not? (0:50) I have white colored jeans on today. (0:52) Okay. (0:53) White.(0:53) I can’t see them. (0:54) Those are not church jeans? (0:55) They’re not my church jeans. (0:56) My church jeans are in the wash, are in the laundry.(0:59) Oh, man. (0:59) But I’m so excited that you and I are going out for Rollentine’s Day. (1:05) Nice.(1:06) We were going to go to Hana, and we talked it up so well, and then I looked it up, and (1:10) they don’t, they’re not open. (1:11) They’re only like takeout and delivery or something, so. (1:14) Yeah.(1:15) So we got our second best sushi place. (1:16) So we got our second best sushi place. (1:17) $4 spicy tuna roll, sir.(1:20) $4. (1:21) I’ll take 19, please. (1:22) Yes, I would like 32 of them, please.(1:24) And take all my money. (1:26) And today’s a Knocked Conscious. (1:28) It’s a serious one.(1:29) Yeah. (1:29) It’s a perfect Valentine’s Day one. (1:31) That’s not, it’s not good ironic, bro.(1:35) It is the worst irony. (1:36) I didn’t even think about it until I woke up this morning and went, it’s Valentine’s (1:40) Day, and we’re going to talk about what? (1:43) Yeah. (1:44) We’re going to talk about a subject that we’ve been hemming and hawing about for quite some (1:50) time, the discussion of Mr. Jeffrey Epstein.(1:55) Yes. (1:55) And you seem to have been very interested in this, which I was as well interested. (2:02) However, I just felt there was so much attention on it when it came, when we talked about it, (2:09) when we discussed it.(2:09) Like a year ago or something? (2:10) Yeah. (2:11) So like, it just felt like, let’s let everything calm down and then we can look at it with (2:15) like more objectively, I think. (2:16) Sure.(2:17) Than like emotionally, because it’s a real emotional subject. (2:20) True. (2:20) And I rewatched the series on Netflix in the past couple of days and I did, I was able (2:25) to watch it more.(2:26) I mean, it’s a horrible story about all the young ladies, the lives that were affected, (2:31) but I was able to watch it from a more objective standpoint, I guess you could say. (2:36) Yeah. (2:36) I watched it as well.(2:37) And I also watched the interview that we’ll talk about. (2:41) Which interview? (2:42) Oh, the guy? (2:43) Yeah. (2:44) The guy in the place with the thing.(2:45) We’ll talk about that. (2:45) With the alien in the spaceship. (2:46) May they rest in peace.(2:48) Well, you brought this to us because, and it’s a great subject. (2:52) It really is a great topic to talk about or an interesting topic because, God, this is (2:57) ridiculous. (2:58) We covered Shoeberry with Charles.(3:00) Yeah. (3:01) The church. (3:01) And obviously we’ve covered the church and then we’ve also looked at the other side with (3:06) the Michael Jackson thing.(3:06) Yeah. (3:07) So we’ve seen, you and I have, you and I are intrigued by the truth behind certain (3:15) allegations. (3:16) And it’s always been, I think it’s been your, my philosophy that like children are the most (3:22) innocent.(3:22) They have zero consent. (3:24) They have zero control over their lives. (3:26) Like this is the worst thing you can do is do anything to a child.(3:30) It’s the worst. (3:32) Sadly, I wouldn’t agree because there’s no, there’s nowhere to go from there. (3:38) Yeah.(3:38) It’s just shitty. (3:40) Yeah. (3:40) Other than maybe to your point, like a dog or a pet or something, I guess would be pretty (3:44) pretty nasty too.(3:46) But still, regardless of all of that, let’s get into this because you, you took some serious (3:52) copious notes. (3:53) Just like two pages. (3:54) I watch it intently and I know, you know, I’ll follow, follow you and we’ll go.(3:58) Sure. (3:59) My plan was to go through the timeline of chronological events and then that we could (4:06) probably bust that out pretty quick and then go back and discuss the where’s and the why’s (4:11) and the who’s and other theories that we’ve heard besides just the Netflix show. (4:17) And you’ve heard quite, you have questions I’m sure.(4:19) Oh yeah. (4:20) Okay. (4:20) Perfect.(4:23) And go. (4:24) So this all started back in the seventies bro. (4:29) Yes.(4:29) And to clarify very quickly before we start, I didn’t say it. (4:32) What? (4:32) To clarify. (4:34) To your point, the documentary jumped around timeline wise and that drove you absolutely (4:39) batshit crazy.(4:40) Which is totally understandable because we like to understand the timeline. (4:43) Yeah. (4:44) So for those that don’t know, there’s a four part documentary produced by James Patterson, (4:50) the famous author who was a neighbor of Jeffrey Epstein in Palm Beach, Florida.(4:55) It’s a four part, it’s less than four hours and it’s very interesting on how the story, (5:01) what’s that? (5:01) We’ll put the link up. (5:02) Sure. (5:02) No, you won’t.(5:03) Please do. (5:04) I’ll put the link up. (5:06) I just, we talk about topics we don’t do later.(5:08) Oh yeah. (5:09) The links get put up. (5:11) Uh, it’s, it’s a four part documentary and it did jump around and that was a challenge (5:17) for me to try to follow all the moving pieces because there were so many people involved.(5:24) Agreed. (5:25) Well, let’s get to it, man. (5:26) So this started in the seventies as a Mr. Epstein dropped out of college and then he (5:33) got a teaching job at a small college, which one of the gentlemen they interviewed found (5:39) it ironic that you dropped out of college and now you’re a college teacher.(5:43) That seems, uh, what, how did, how did that, they didn’t get into how that happened or (5:49) how it was finagled, but right off the bat I went, what? (5:53) That seems fishy. (5:54) Seemed very fishy right off the bat, but really they did not get into that very deeply. (5:58) No, it was brushed over.(6:00) It was, it’s unfortunate cause I’m curious cause that really probably is where the pathology (6:05) started and like really took off. (6:07) Maybe the control over a kid, like over students, like how did there, is there anything that (6:13) happened to those students? (6:15) Right. (6:16) Right.(6:17) They were young, they were young men and women at his school I think. (6:20) Or was it a women’s school? (6:21) No, I believe it was co-ed. (6:22) Was it co-ed or was it, it might’ve just been a women’s school too.(6:24) I don’t know. (6:26) Okay. (6:26) Regardless of that, you know, when did all this start, right? (6:31) Right.(6:31) You know, you didn’t hear anything about the school stuff. (6:34) True. (6:36) That’s interesting.(6:37) Yeah. (6:37) I should’ve. (6:38) Popped in my head.(6:39) Yeah. (6:39) I’m like, oh, they talk. (6:41) Wow.(6:41) He’s a teacher of young. (6:43) People. (6:43) Young men and women.(6:44) Young minds. (6:45) Yeah. (6:45) And he’s, and now this is what happened to how, whoa.(6:49) Right. (6:50) Right. (6:51) I don’t know.(6:52) I don’t know if they were trying to make the connection with that, but they didn’t have (6:54) any kind of data. (6:56) Or, or data. (6:58) Or data, of course.(6:59) Or zada. (6:59) Neither, neither. (7:00) Neither.(7:00) Neither. (7:01) Potato. (7:01) Potato.(7:03) Potato. (7:03) From his teaching job, he finagled a job on Wall Street. (7:10) He was recommended to Bear Stern, I think is where he started, in the, in the seventies.(7:16) And he was doing, the gentleman, the president of, of Bear Stern at the time admitted that (7:22) it was a Ponzi scheme. (7:23) Those were his words. (7:24) So they were finagling financial, I’ve used that word three times now, I need to stop (7:28) doing that.(7:30) Manipulation of money on Wall Street to make themselves rich. (7:34) I looked it up. (7:35) They artificially pumped up the price, the stock price of, or the valuation of their (7:38) company.(7:39) Yes. (7:39) Yes. (7:40) That’s how they did it.(7:41) Right. (7:41) It wasn’t like insider trading or whatever. (7:43) It just was false, falsely, falsely valuating their company higher than it really was.(7:49) But that is illegal. (7:50) It is illegal. (7:51) No, no.(7:51) It’s an illegal act. (7:52) It’s a securities and exchange commission law, right? (7:56) Right. (7:56) No, absolutely is illegal.(7:58) I’m just saying, I just want to be clear about what the actual thing was, because most people, (8:03) when you hear, break a law with that, you think insider trading, like, oh, they knew (8:07) they had insider tips about what was going to come out of that. (8:09) Wall Street, the movie. (8:10) It wasn’t that.(8:10) They just, yeah. (8:11) It was just how they did their own thing. (8:13) Right.(8:13) And they loved it. (8:14) The guy just, the guy coped to it. (8:16) Yeah.(8:17) Coped to it? (8:17) Coped to it? (8:18) Coped to it. (8:18) Coped to it. (8:18) And then he got, he did jail time.(8:20) 20, up to 20 years? (8:22) Up to, I don’t know how much he did, but yeah. (8:24) That was the sentence. (8:25) I think it was nine he was out or something.(8:26) Something like that. (8:26) But he was 20, but yeah, it was pretty interesting. (8:29) But he didn’t give him up.(8:30) He didn’t give up his name. (8:31) No. (8:32) And he said he was damn good at it too.(8:35) Well. (8:35) Damn good at being a shyster. (8:38) Damn feels good to be a shyster.(8:42) Moving along. (8:43) That’s a good song. (8:44) It’s one of my favorites.(8:47) The first reported case against Epstein was a young art student in New York City in 1995. (8:56) This young lady met Epstein and his girlfriend, Ms. Maxwell, at an art gallery exhibit (9:02) and bought three pieces of her work, and they hire her to decorate his seven-story apartment in New York City. (9:13) She alleges that he abused her, and she reported that to the FBI in 1995, and nothing came of it.(9:21) There was no investigation. There was no nothing. (9:25) That’s the first reported case of a 25-year habitual behavior pattern that began in the mid-’90s.(9:36) I want to be clear about that, though. (9:38) Yes. (9:39) I don’t know if you saw it.Did you happen to watch the credits at all? (9:43) No. (9:43) Right at the end of each of the four series, there are some clarification credits. (9:50) Yes, sir.I did see those. (9:51) I would recommend, please, everyone read those. They’re very important, because it really let me down a little bit of a rabbit hole with this artist.(9:59) Not debunking, but it’s a he-said-she-said thing. (10:03) Oh, it is, yes. (10:04) On the back of it, the disclaimer comes at the end of the first—this is the first part, I believe.(10:09) Yeah, I believe so. (10:10) Because it was about Steinem? No, Guggenheim. (10:13) Correct.(10:14) Eileen Guggenheim? (10:15) Yes, correct. (10:16) Supposedly introduced the two? (10:17) Correct. (10:18) Eileen Guggenheim— (10:19) Denies that.(10:20) Denies that. (10:21) Yes. (10:21) And then I actually typed in this woman’s name and looked something up.(10:25) Allegedly—remember how she said she was getting $12,000 for the one—$14,000 for one piece, and then $12,000 for each of the other two? (10:31) Yes. (10:33) According to some people, because I looked it up online on the Gugs, she actually approached them and made the deal out to six of six in hopes of getting something down the road. (10:45) The artist did, not Guggenheim.(10:47) Right, so it wasn’t Epstein that offered only $6,000. (10:51) From what I read other stuff, I’m not saying it’s not—it’s a he-said-she-said. (10:55) Right.(10:55) I don’t know the truth. (10:56) I’m just letting you know that there’s a combative story, or what’s that called? Competitive, not competitive, whatever. (11:07) Something that goes against basically what they’re saying.(11:11) That Guggenheim didn’t introduce them, and she had nothing to do with it, and that the artist herself negotiated with Epstein’s, not had them come up. (11:21) Once again, we just don’t know. Please just read everything and look up your own information, just to be clear.(11:27) Because documentaries are great, but if they’re, you know, truth is what we’re after. (11:30) Well, this is also a one-sided documentary. (11:32) Right, we’re after truth.(11:35) You know. (11:36) Yeah, and obviously there’s enough here to tell us the character of the person. (11:42) Yeah.In addition to that artist, her sister, her younger sister was also introduced to Epstein and Maxwell, his girlfriend, and she was also abused. (11:58) And I’ll get to another point later, but I found it interesting that it was a pair of sisters. (12:03) And, you know, they’re both—it was almost like a cookie-cutter way of bringing them into their little network.(12:11) Yeah. (12:11) And that is disturbing. (12:13) Yeah, it worked out really well.I mean, the network—and we’ll get into the network, but the network just—it was easy. (12:20) And it’s interesting because our conversation with Charles made me think—I was looking at this again, watching it through a different lens because of the stuff that we talked about with Charles with Shubert. (12:29) Yeah.(12:29) Because it’s interesting. I know that was a male—it was a boy, but— (12:33) It was a pedophile sex ring in the UK, right. (12:35) Boy, girl, it does not matter.It’s the power, the whatever, the perversionist, the control, right? (12:43) So—but it’s interesting. I was watching it through that lens, and we’ll talk about that too, how the network grew and why the network grew or why you would recruit, right? (12:50) Yeah. That’s—yeah, that makes me think.(12:56) Moving on, the next incident was in 1997, two years later, in California, because of Mr. Epstein’s relationship with the owner of Victoria’s Secret. (13:11) He used that—Epstein used that to his advantage to— (13:15) Lex Westman? (13:16) Yes, correct. (13:17) He’s the owner of the limited clothing store, Victoria’s Secret, and he bought—he bought A&F and he bought Victoria’s Secret later as his empire grew.(13:28) Right. (13:28) Yes. (13:29) So Mr. Epstein knew that gentleman and used that to his benefit.So he told a young lady in California in 97, (13:37) hey, I’m a Victoria’s Secret scout, I know the president, etc., and then he lured her into his condo in California and she was abused there. (13:45) Mm-hmm. And Westman is the guy—is the—it seems to be that’s where they’re—it seems to be where all the breadcrumbs are leading to where Epstein started his fortune or started his first elitist-rich manipulation.(14:04) Where he managed money for billionaires? (14:06) Yeah. (14:06) And that’s how he got rich. (14:07) Because allegedly he had this relationship with this Westman guy.Are we going to talk about that later? (14:11) Yeah. (14:11) Okay. Cool.(14:15) So 97, he said he was a scout for Victoria’s Secret. (14:18) Correct, in California. (14:19) I remember that one as well, the young lady.(14:22) In 2001, in London, Prince Andrew of the royal family was a friend of Mr. Epstein and he was introduced to a young lady and that she was abused by him. (14:36) And they—he said, she said, they vehemently opposed each other in those statements. (14:41) But that news did not come out for 14 years until 2015.(14:47) However, in 2004 it was noted that Prince Andrew made it to Epstein’s private island because there are notes on the logs of the aircraft that go into that island. (14:59) Which we’ll get into the island later as well. (15:02) Cool.(15:03) But he had his own island in the Caribbean. (15:04) Are we—are we going to get into Andrew later as well? (15:06) Yes, that’s towards the end as well. (15:08) I’m just—I’m just going down the timeline.(15:10) Yeah, yeah, absolutely. (15:11) And then we can— (15:11) Like I said, I just don’t want to—I don’t want to interrupt too much. (15:13) No, you’re good.(15:16) In 03, in Palm Beach, Florida, neighbors reported a large number of young women at the mansion of Mr. Epstein. (15:25) Police investigated and they saw they were all adults working on administrative type things. (15:29) They were all employees of his company, however you want to say it.(15:34) That’s what—that’s what the documentary— (15:36) Right. (15:36) They were all 18 or older. (15:38) Right.(15:38) They didn’t even go in because past that it was like, okay, everyone they saw was of age or working on something. (15:44) Yes, correct. (15:45) It looked—it looked above board or whatever.(15:48) Correct. (15:49) The right term is. (15:49) Yes.(15:51) In 2005, Palm Beach Police Department received a phone call by the parents of a 14-year-old girl advising that she was abused by Mr. Epstein. (16:03) That began an investigation that lasted seven months. (16:08) Towards the end of 2005, a search warrant was served.(16:11) It appeared that the people living in the house were tipped off as camera systems were removed and computers and hard drives were also taken off the premises. (16:22) Yes, they said during their—during their warrant sweep or whatever, there looked like hanging wires from places. (16:29) Oh, yes.(16:30) And you could see the side of a computer. (16:31) Yes, it was open. (16:32) Like the whole—the casing was gone.(16:33) An old school desktop that was—the side was gone and everything was removed. (16:37) Yes, just the hard drive was gone. (16:38) Yes.(16:38) So there was nothing you could do. (16:40) Yes, it was interesting. (16:42) The way that it was spun right after that, it was stated that Mr. Epstein went on the offense where he started hiring people that were then spying on, surveying, surveillance, whatever you want to say it, (16:57) of the police department, investigators, the chief of police, their families, the lawyers for some of the victims were all being harassed by other private investigators.(17:09) Yes, people were calling, getting phone calls and some things as well. (17:12) Some threats even to some extent. (17:14) Correct.(17:15) Not from Epstein, but threats in general, right? (17:19) But they seem to be—that’s the only place they’re going to come from. (17:25) Absolutely correct. (17:26) All right.(17:28) Yeah. (17:29) Good job. (17:30) In 2006, I have on here, and this may be incorrect.(17:36) One count of prostitution. (17:37) One count of prostitution. (17:38) So I’m— (17:40) Well, there’s one where he got one count of that and he got one count of like trying to solicit.(17:44) And it was like they were both kind of misdemeanors, I think. (17:46) They weren’t even—it was ridiculous, man. (17:49) Yeah.(17:52) In July of 2006, the police chief for Palm Beach, Florida was upset as to the fact that he wasn’t charged with more crimes (18:02) and went over the head of the Florida State Attorney and went to the FBI and gave them all the information so that they could look into this case if need be. (18:11) And it shows the desperation because it was specifically stated that that’s such a rarity that you don’t go through the proper channels to work your way up. (18:21) He circumvented his own—basically his own group of people because he—it would be my guess that he knew that Epstein had his hand in stuff.(18:33) Correct. (18:34) So he went right directly to the FBI instead of through the State Attorney. (18:38) I thought that was interesting.(18:39) Yeah, and I give that guy a lot of credit because he worked really hard and then nothing happened. (18:44) And it seemed like he was trying to do the right thing for the people in the community itself. (18:49) So I gave the guy credit for not taking any shit and going up the ladder and escalating things as need be.(18:56) That’s what I would do. (18:57) Absolutely, sir. I like it.(19:02) Between 20—well, I did have a note on here. (19:04) 2007 is when Leslie Wexner cut ties with— (19:09) And once again, Leslie Wexner is the Victoria’s Secret owner, limited owner. (19:13) This is where we think he—they were close.(19:16) They even called him boyfriend or something in some articles, I think. (19:20) From what I recall, when Epstein was being examined, they said, are you lovers with him? (19:29) Are you guys in a relationship? Are you in love with him? (19:31) And he pleaded the fifth and didn’t answer any of those questions. (19:34) I think one, he said no.(19:35) I think in that one, actually, he said no, he wasn’t, or they never had physical relations. (19:39) But a lot of it, he did plead the fifth, which is his right. (19:43) His right as an American to plead the fifth.(19:49) Between 2006— (19:50) So he stole the $46 million. (19:52) He did steal—or Wexner accuses him of that. (19:55) But never sued him, never went after him.(19:59) That we know of. (19:59) He only claimed that he took it. (20:02) Never actually had legal action or anything taken against him.(20:04) Which seems pretty odd. (20:06) Why would you make an accusation without following it up with— (20:10) Or did he just want to cut his losses and go, I’m incredibly wealthy. (20:13) Right, what do you think better of it? (20:14) I’m not—I don’t need to be in the news anymore.(20:16) I don’t need to be tied to this guy in any way. (20:19) Negative, positive, etc. (20:20) I’m just going to cut my losses, which that’s a lot of money.(20:24) But he didn’t—big deal to him. (20:26) Look at the angle I’m taking now. (20:27) I’m taking the other side again.(20:29) I’m assuming that he has dirt on him and is like, I don’t need to be exposed. (20:34) Oh, okay. (20:34) By dragging his name out, he’s going to leak X because he has this on him.(20:40) Because it seems to me, taking a step back at this whole situation, (20:44) whether it’s implied by the documentary or all the things I’ve watched (20:46) or everything that I’ve seen, (20:48) it could be just a mainstream media thing pushing me in a direction. (20:52) But when I take a step back, I look at the whole thing, I go, (20:56) this guy just had dirt on people and they just gave him money (20:59) and let him fucking run wild because he could expose— (21:02) it was mutual destruction. (21:03) He could fucking—he had something on everyone.(21:06) Right. (21:06) That’s what it felt like. (21:08) I could be totally wrong.(21:08) Multiple presidents, a prince. (21:11) I mean, look, we’re not going to say guilt by association, right? (21:15) But he had fucking—he had Kevin Spacey on. (21:21) Yeah.(21:22) Even though during that flight specifically, the woman said nothing happened. (21:25) But Kevin Spacey has admitted other things with mail. (21:29) He’s been more into the mail.(21:32) Well, didn’t he finally admit he’s gay? (21:34) Yes. (21:35) Yes. (21:35) So what I’m saying is the woman wouldn’t have been under threat.(21:38) Remember the one—there was a flight with Spacey, Tucker, and Clinton. (21:41) And she said nothing happened. (21:43) Right.(21:43) Right? (21:44) Okay. (21:45) So I’m not—it’s not total guilt by association. (21:48) But he had Woody Allen.(21:52) Yeah. (21:53) Woody Allen with the fucking 21-year-old whatever that he married. (21:57) Like, these weird patterns of the guys that he knows are guys who exhibit similar interests.(22:07) Yes. (22:10) Walensky. (22:11) Yeah, Trump.(22:12) Woody Allen with the kneeling or whatever the fuck. (22:14) Right. (22:14) And Clinton.(22:15) Yeah. (22:16) Trump had—always loved the young ones. (22:22) Well, it’s funny.(22:23) The one thing, too, is the Trump—are we going to talk about Trump later? (22:27) No. (22:27) In this? (22:28) No. (22:29) Oh, it’s not going to come up? (22:30) No.(22:30) Because it is a weird excerpt. (22:31) Oh, yeah. (22:32) The Acosta thing, yes.(22:33) Well, the Acosta thing is in a whole other— (22:36) But you just totally derailed my timeline, but that’s fine. (22:38) But no, we’re not going to go into the timeline. (22:40) I’ll wait.(22:40) So he’s still—Leslie Wexner, 46 million, Epstein. (22:45) Go. (22:46) In 2007, Wexner finally cut ties.(22:48) Yes. (22:48) Yep. (22:49) I already stated the next two points.(22:51) Between 2006 and 2008, the case was with the federal government. (22:55) And it appeared at the end of 2008, the case just went away. (23:00) There was a hearing in July of 2008 with the U.S. attorney, Alex Acosta.(23:10) It was a plea deal, basically, on the one count of prostitution. (23:15) And there was also a count of trying to procure a minor of prostitution. (23:19) So it was two charges.(23:21) He pleaded guilty to solicitation. (23:23) But in the plea deal, he was given immunity, and all of his associates were given immunity. (23:31) So they couldn’t be charged with anything else regarding this case.(23:35) And they showed at least five good, strong associates. (23:40) Correct. (23:41) From Jalene— (23:42) Yes.(23:43) Maxwell, who is obviously Epstein’s whatever. (23:45) Yeah, I have to say Jalene. (23:47) I think that’s correct.(23:48) I don’t know. (23:48) I used to say Giseline. (23:51) I thought it was Giselle, but I was like, no, that’s Bray’s wife.(23:53) Yeah, Jalene, I think. (23:55) Ms. Maxwell is what her name is. (23:58) Whatever.(23:58) Whatever she is. (24:00) She’s a monster, too. (24:02) Yes.(24:03) So, well, what was interesting about this, too, not just was everyone absolved of any future, right? (24:11) They were not acquitted, but what’s— (24:12) Well, immunity. (24:13) Pardon, immunity. (24:14) Yeah, sure, pardon, same thing.(24:15) They had immunity. (24:16) But what about his actual—what did he do in jail? (24:18) Like, what was that all about? (24:20) Well, he only served 13 months out of the 18, and then he was— (24:26) Like, serve is a very loose term. (24:27) Yeah, he was given work release every day.(24:29) So, from 8 to 8, he was not at the prison. (24:32) He was at his office or his home. (24:36) But, however, there were multiple parole violations every single day, almost.(24:40) And I thought to myself, why wasn’t the dude wearing an ankle bracelet? (24:44) I mean, I didn’t get that. (24:47) So, it was very disconcerting that he basically—breaking your parole is illegal. (24:55) That’s not—you can’t do that.(24:57) But he was—he got away with it multiple times. (24:59) Yeah, after he was released, he broke his parole. (25:02) Correct.(25:03) Multiple times. (25:04) Well, the ankle bracelet is house arrest. (25:06) Once you’re on parole, you don’t get the ankle bracelet.(25:08) So, you wouldn’t have an ankle bracelet on parole. (25:10) Parole is where you check in with a parole officer. (25:12) You’ve already served your time.(25:13) The time is up. (25:14) You are now a—on other conditions, right? (25:19) Yeah. (25:19) Checking in, getting a job, blah, blah, blah.(25:21) You’re pretty much out. (25:24) So, it’s slightly different than like a house arrest. (25:25) Yeah.(25:26) However, he wasn’t supposed to leave his house. (25:27) Correct. (25:28) As a condition of his parole.(25:29) And how many times have you ducked in the car and they said, (25:32) we knew he was in the back. (25:33) Right. (25:33) We knew when he left.(25:34) We knew when he came back. (25:36) Mm-hmm. (25:36) All that.(25:37) So, after the 13 months in the—what’s that called? (25:42) Country club? (25:43) Baker’s Dozen. (25:44) Country club? (25:44) Yeah. (25:46) Prison? (25:48) White collar prison.(25:49) Yeah. (25:50) Well, where it’s— (25:51) Yeah, country club prison. (25:52) Yeah, it’s a country club prison, white collar prison.(25:52) Yeah, and his cell door was always open. (25:54) He could come and go as he pleased. (25:55) And he had dinners with like, you know, people would come in.(25:57) He could see his lawyers whenever he wanted. (25:58) So, after the 13 months in prison, he was given 12 months of house arrest. (26:04) Oh, it was house arrest then.(26:05) Maybe you should have had the— (26:07) So, that was in 2009 was when he got out. (26:09) Yes. (26:10) So, yeah, if it’s parole, he wouldn’t have the bracelet.(26:13) If it is house arrest, I would guess that the bracelet would matter. (26:18) Yeah, I don’t know the spec—and every state’s probably different too, right? (26:21) So, I don’t know the specifics of that, but I’d be interested to see. (26:24) Yeah, interesting.(26:25) All right. (26:26) Also in 2009, there was an altercation in Paris with another pair of sisters with Mr. Weinstein. (26:34) So, Harvey Weinstein, who the name’s pretty familiar nowadays because of the Me Too movement.(26:38) He was also an associate of Mr. Epstein. (26:41) And, of course, Weinstein denied those allegations. (26:46) But another pair of sisters were allegedly assaulted in Paris in 2009.(26:56) Yeah. (26:58) This thing just— (26:59) This is a fantastic comment, bro. (27:01) No, I just shake my head at this whole fucking thing.(27:03) I’m just like, Weinstein, Woody Allen, Trump, Clinton. (27:07) Like, all of these people have had previous accusations from women? (27:16) Yeah. (27:17) In some sort, I would guess? (27:19) Right, right.(27:19) All throughout? (27:20) All of them? (27:21) Every single one? (27:22) And they just happen to be connected to one—like, they all know one person. (27:25) Like, it’s a hub-and-spokey thing. (27:27) You stole my line, dude.(27:28) I don’t appreciate you precogging me, dude. (27:30) Sorry, bro. (27:30) That’s just not cool.(27:31) All right, anyway. (27:32) Go ahead. (27:32) Please continue, because I’ll just keep shaking my head.(27:34) This is coming down to the end of the timeline here. (27:36) Good. (27:36) In 2018, the Miami Herald published an article about the connection between the U.S. Attorney, Alex Acosta, and Mr. Epstein.(27:46) At that point, Alex Acosta was no longer the Attorney General. (27:49) He was now the Secretary of Labor for the United States underneath President Trump. (27:56) So, once that was—the details of the plea deal were released, Mr. Acosta was under a lot of attention.(28:06) And four days after that article came out, he resigned as the Secretary of Labor under Trump. (28:11) He really put pressure on him. (28:13) Thank fucking God, too.(28:15) Because I went down that fucking rabbit hole, that piece of shit. (28:17) Acosta? (28:18) Oh, my God. (28:20) Just watching this fucking ridiculous— (28:23) He is clearly, clearly a figurehead for something.(28:30) And, huh. (28:31) Once again, just looking at the connections, and once—correlation does not equal causation, but— (28:36) Oh, he’s one of 13 cabinet positions that Trump— (28:40) There’s only 13? (28:40) I think there’s only 13. (28:41) Might be 14 now, 15, but— (28:43) 17? (28:44) Don’t look it up.(28:45) I didn’t realize there was that few. (28:47) I could have thought there were only— (28:49) I could have thought. (28:50) I don’t know if there are more— (28:52) But my point is, like, Acosta— (28:55) Okay, so Trump’s in a picture.(28:57) I know— (28:58) Not a picture. (28:59) There was multiple press conferences. (29:01) No, no.(29:01) I’m saying in a picture with Epstein, right? (29:04) Oh, yes. (29:04) Trump and Epstein, yes, correct. (29:05) From way back in the day.(29:06) Well, there’s several pictures. (29:08) There’s one from the 80s. (29:09) Correct.(29:10) And there’s one very recent. (29:11) And then Acosta is the guy who lets this guy off the fucking hook. (29:15) And then he gets the job.(29:17) And he’s also at the same point, right? (29:20) Because remember, it wasn’t like— (29:22) I think he was already buddy-buddy with Trump prior to this. (29:26) Yeah, I agree. (29:27) Him getting— (29:27) Trump had to get elected for him to even get that timeline to work— (29:30) Correct.(29:30) —to get there in 2000. (29:32) Correct. (29:33) And then stepping down.(29:34) It’s just crazy, right? (29:37) Yes. (29:38) It’s crazy how this almost does feel like a total web, like a whole network. (29:43) But you can’t accuse everyone just because they’re all connected.(29:46) But they’re all fucking connected. (29:48) Well, you can accuse them. (29:49) Yeah, but we’re not on a witch hunt here.(29:52) I like witches. (29:53) I do too. (29:54) I like sand witches.(29:56) Chip witches. (29:58) Some of my favorite people are witches, bro. (30:01) Very nice.(30:02) Anything else on that? (30:04) No. (30:04) Okay. (30:05) After the Miami Herald article was released in 2018, (30:09) in 2019 it was announced by a federal court (30:14) that the plea deal that was made in 2007 between the U.S. and Epstein (30:20) was in violation of the Crime Victims’ Rights Act.(30:27) Hence, the thing is garbage. (30:29) Yeah. (30:30) Poop.(30:30) So tell us more about this thing. (30:32) Tell us more about it. (30:33) Because of that— (30:34) Yes.(30:34) Because of that ruling— (30:35) What were the consequences of this? (30:37) Well, because of that ruling, the federal case was reignited, (30:43) however you want to word it. (30:44) Yes. (30:45) Which is kind of good, right? (30:48) Well, yes.(30:49) Because it led to ultimately to the whole thing. (30:51) Okay, cool. (30:52) And there are 15 departments.(30:53) Oh, there’s 15 cabinet positions. (30:56) Yes, department plus— (30:57) So tonight on Jeopardy, I will get that right. (31:00) What is 15, Alex? (31:01) Speaking of Jeopardy, did you hear about this kid? (31:04) No.(31:05) Matthew Smith? (31:08) No, Brevin Smith? (31:09) Braylon Smith? (31:10) Something like that? (31:10) He was during Trebek’s last recordings back in November. (31:14) He was a champion. (31:15) Okay.(31:16) 100-some-thousand. (31:18) Died 24 years old. (31:19) Wow.(31:20) Unexpected. (31:21) Complications from surgery, but they didn’t disclose what the surgery was. (31:24) And you’re like, that sounds odd.(31:25) 24-year-old? (31:27) So it was really odd. (31:28) Yeah. (31:29) I’m not kidding.(31:29) The guy who was— (31:31) So now we’re going to have a curse of Trebek. (31:33) I’m just letting you know. (31:35) Just everyone watch out.(31:37) Don’t do it. (31:37) I didn’t. (31:38) I said nothing.(31:39) You just did. (31:40) No, no. (31:40) I said the curse of Trebek.(31:41) I didn’t call him any names or anything. (31:43) Well, is that like the curse of the Bambino? (31:45) Is it different? (31:46) That’s what I’m saying. (31:46) It could be.(31:47) Totally. (31:47) But totally the same. (31:48) All three last contestants are all going to— (31:50) Dude, don’t say that.(31:52) That’s not cool. (31:52) Okay. (31:53) I unsaid it.(31:54) Thank you. (31:55) What do you call it? (31:57) No-take-backsies? (31:59) No-take-backsies. (32:01) Okay, good.(32:02) I just did it all. (32:02) Paul is dead. (32:03) I figured it all backwards.(32:04) He’s a devil. (32:06) Okay. (32:07) So they open up the case again.(32:08) So the case was reopened— (32:10) —in July of 2019 in New Jersey. (32:15) Epstein was arrested on federal charges of sexual trafficking. (32:22) And they stormed his New York place without his— (32:25) it seemed like without his knowledge at this time.(32:27) Well, he was arrested— (32:28) Well, they went into his apartment, right? (32:29) —and then they went into his apartment after he was arrested. (32:32) Right. (32:32) And they found, like, there weren’t missing hard drives.(32:35) Let’s just put it that way. (32:36) Correct. (32:38) They found photos in the apartment of underage girls, (32:42) tons of computers, video equipment.(32:45) They said every room had a camera in it. (32:47) So, including the restrooms. (32:48) So that’s— (32:50) And I thought to myself, (32:52) if I was, like, a construction guy or a video installer (32:56) and I got this contract to install 28 cameras or whatever it was, (33:00) I don’t know how many, (33:02) and I’m like, okay, they’ll get one in every bathroom? (33:05) Would I— (33:06) my moral compass would be on fire.(33:11) And I don’t know— (33:13) Would it? (33:13) Yes, but I don’t— (33:14) how much is that person getting paid? (33:16) I don’t know. (33:17) Yeah. (33:18) Or would you just be like, (33:20) camera in a bathroom, pretty cool.(33:21) You wouldn’t even think of the nefarious reason, (33:23) because you’re not wired. (33:24) I’m not wired that way, but— (33:26) Right. (33:26) I referred to you the clerk’s conversation (33:29) about the contractor on the Death Star.(33:32) Did the contractor on the Death Star really— (33:35) was he a bad guy? (33:36) He was just trying to feed his wife and kids, man. (33:38) He’s just trying to install the plumbing, bro. (33:40) He’s trying to get that second— (33:41) Stormtrooper poop.(33:42) Right, he’s trying— (33:42) Stormpoopers. (33:43) He’s trying to get— (33:46) He’s trying to get the fucking urinals installed (33:48) and the fucking latrines and the fucking showerheads. (33:50) A trash compactor.(33:51) Does he know that the fucking Death Star just destroyed Alderaan? (33:54) Does he fucking— (33:55) Probably not. (33:56) I don’t think he’s— (33:56) I don’t think he gives a fuck. (33:58) He’s just working his job.(34:01) Could— (34:02) Well, of course it could. (34:04) And I understand most people are not wired the way I am, (34:08) but to me that seems suspicious. (34:10) Yeah, I know, but I’m just saying, like— (34:12) You know what? (34:12) Hey, sir, wait, wait.(34:14) You want cameras in the bathroom? (34:15) Ready? (34:16) Here it is. (34:18) I— (34:19) $4 million. (34:20) Hey, buddy.(34:20) Buddy? (34:21) I hate to tell you this, but— (34:22) Okay. (34:23) My wife, my girlfriend, my partner, (34:25) she’s kind of on suicide watch, (34:26) and I never know when she locks herself in the bathroom (34:30) if she’s going to take pills or if she’s going to cut herself (34:32) or if she’s going to hurt herself. (34:33) So I like to have— (34:34) just to know that she’s okay and safe in there.(34:37) Boom, done. (34:37) Don’t tell anybody. (34:38) This is how dark I fucking am.(34:39) I came up with a fucking perfect— (34:41) Would you be cool with that at that point? (34:42) I don’t know why I hang out with you, dude. (34:44) Would you— (34:44) Okay, so you’re— (34:45) Okay, let’s play this out. (34:47) Let’s play this out.(34:48) Hey, hi. (34:49) I’m— (34:50) You’re the video installer, (34:51) and I just gave you that story. (34:52) Yeah.(34:53) What are you saying? (34:56) I don’t— (34:57) I think it’s bullshit, (34:58) and I don’t think— (34:59) You don’t believe me, bro? (35:01) I definitely don’t believe you. (35:02) Bro. (35:02) Bro.(35:02) I’m a sociopath. (35:04) You’re totally believing— (35:06) You’re totally— (35:06) You’re not a Jedi, though. (35:07) You’re believing that story.(35:08) You cannot do the Jedi mind trick. (35:10) See, you don’t. (35:11) These aren’t the cameras for what you’re looking at.(35:12) See, that’s not— (35:13) I’m like, I quit. (35:14) Bye. (35:15) Or do they just pay them double (35:17) to not ask any questions? (35:18) Well, I’m not sure they pay them.(35:18) But, like, seriously, (35:19) it’s like, hey, we’re going to wire this house (35:22) for internet, video, audio, blah, blah, blah, (35:26) entire house. (35:27) That’s a challenge that a construction person (35:30) would be like, (35:31) I take that challenge as can I do it, (35:33) not as to why, right? (35:34) Yeah. (35:34) We go back into the science question.(35:36) Oh, man. (35:37) To the atom bomb. (35:38) Should we do it? (35:39) I don’t know.(35:40) I just want to figure out if I can. (35:41) Boom. (35:42) And the way the cameras were in those little cutouts, (35:44) the concrete holes were— (35:45) Yeah, they were really, really small.(35:46) Back then, even. (35:47) Yeah. (35:48) Like, and the quality must have been decent, (35:51) obviously, for it to be like that.(35:52) Well, it was probably top of the line. (35:53) Yeah, so it was really small, (35:54) but even back then, (35:55) so it was pretty impressive. (35:57) Okay, sorry.(35:58) Let me backtrack. (35:59) No, you’re fine. (35:59) It’s not impressive.(36:00) It’s disgusting. (36:01) Well, the technology— (36:03) But the technology was surprising. (36:04) Yes, yes.(36:05) The technology was indeed impressive. (36:07) Absolutely. (36:08) I agree with that.(36:11) July of 2019, (36:12) Epstein was arrested in New Jersey. (36:14) Got that, yeah. (36:15) Teterboro Airport.(36:18) He was in a prison in Manhattan, (36:23) a federal jail, not a prison, (36:26) waiting trial, (36:27) and he was found dead. (36:31) It was announced he did commit suicide, (36:34) and there was a— (36:36) it was announced that the guards were sleeping (36:37) and the cameras were not functioning. (36:40) So one gentleman said, (36:43) and I thought the point was so good, (36:45) he’s like, (36:45) El Chapo was held in that jail.(36:48) Are you kidding me? (36:49) The cameras were not working, (36:51) and the guards were asleep? (36:53) I went, holy shit, El Chapo was there? (36:56) I was like, damn. (36:56) Yeah, it was pretty cool. (36:58) Shit.(36:58) That dude’s run his gamut of fucking little prisons, hasn’t he? (37:03) Yeah. (37:04) Digging out of shit underneath the toilet? (37:06) Motorcycle tunnel and everything. (37:08) What? (37:09) That is the timeline of events.(37:14) Where do you want to go from here? (37:16) Oh, man. (37:17) Should I not ask that question? (37:18) Probably not. (37:19) Do you want to just go on my notes here? (37:20) Yeah, let’s go.(37:21) Well, okay. (37:23) Do we want to go into the end of the suicide? (37:25) Let’s break right into suicide. (37:26) Sure, absolutely.(37:27) Let’s get that out of the way, (37:28) because that’s easy. (37:29) Okay. (37:30) They did an independent study.(37:31) Doctor found three bones broken under the throat (37:35) that would almost be highly unlikely (37:38) that those bones would break (37:40) with the way they said, (37:43) hanging and leaning forward, (37:44) the amount of force it would take to break those. (37:46) Well, the doctor said he’d never seen that ever. (37:50) Yes.(37:50) Not one time. (37:51) In all the autopsies he did (37:53) with someone that hung themselves. (37:55) Hanged themselves.(37:58) Well hanged. (37:59) Okay. (38:00) No, they’re always well hung, (38:01) but they hanged themselves.(38:03) English is dumb. (38:04) It’s dumb. (38:05) I don’t even know if I’m right, man.(38:06) I’m probably totally wrong. (38:07) I’ve been gaslighting you this whole time (38:09) thinking that it’s right. (38:10) No, but in this case, though, it was… (38:15) The guy still said, like, (38:17) highly unlikely it went this way, (38:18) because we have to.(38:19) We don’t know, right? (38:20) There could be that one in gazillion chance (38:21) that these fucking three bones break. (38:23) But then you look at the size of his inmate, (38:25) who was a fucking gorilla. (38:26) Well, that was not on the documentary.(38:28) No, they didn’t talk about that at all. (38:30) So this is additional information (38:32) that you and I have, whatever, (38:34) read about, et cetera. (38:35) And one other thing, (38:36) there is the guy, (38:37) I forget the guy named Mike something, (38:39) and he’s on Rogan a lot, (38:41) and he’s a debunker.(38:42) Okay. (38:43) So he’s like, (38:43) 9-11’s not a conspiracy. (38:45) This is not a… (38:46) Like, he’s pretty debunky about a lot of the ones (38:48) that even you and I would be maybe borderline about.(38:51) More bunky? (38:52) Right. (38:52) So he’s like, (38:53) there’s no way the guy didn’t kill himself. (38:55) There’s no way there’s a conspiracy.(38:57) Well, then Rogan goes, (38:58) this happened. (38:59) The cameras were out. (39:00) The guards were asleep.(39:01) This was this. (39:02) This was… (39:03) And he goes, (39:04) oh, yeah, it could happen. (39:05) He’s talking like, (39:06) he’s talking like, (39:07) what, 80s? (39:08) It’s so funny, (39:09) because it’s so nonchalant, (39:10) because he’s like, (39:11) he’s normally able to completely just debunk, (39:15) or not debunk, (39:16) but at least poke valid holes.(39:19) I get you. (39:19) Reasonable doubt, right? (39:20) Yeah, right, right, right. (39:21) Create reasonable doubt along the whole timeline.(39:23) But then you line all these up, (39:25) and he’s like, (39:25) oh, yeah, then no. (39:27) So it’s kind of funny. (39:29) It’s kind of funny.(39:30) Kind of funny. (39:31) That way. (39:31) So I have to ask you, (39:33) is it time for sushi yet? (39:35) Almost.(39:35) Oh, yes. (39:36) We’re getting there. (39:36) I think we’re like, (39:37) four hours, 36 minutes away.(39:43) There’s one point that I had about, (39:45) there is a photograph of Epstein on a stretcher, (39:49) leaving the jail, (39:51) being loaded into an ambulance, right? (39:55) I guess. (39:56) Yes. (39:56) EMT vehicle.(39:59) So was that, (40:01) was he alive? (40:03) Was that picture altered? (40:07) Forged? (40:08) What’s it called? (40:09) Photoshopped? (40:11) Are you saying your thing, (40:13) he’s like Elvis, Tupac, Biggie Smalls alive (40:17) on an island somewhere, (40:18) and he faked his death? (40:19) Or that he was killed versus suicide? (40:21) I think that there’s three possibilities. (40:23) Okay. (40:24) I want to hear, (40:25) let’s go through all three, (40:28) and then knock them out.(40:29) Yeah, fuck this. (40:30) There’s three possibilities. (40:31) In a good way.(40:32) In my mind. (40:34) That was a good fuck. (40:36) That was a quickie for sure.(40:38) Oh, dude, one and a half pumps. (40:40) Two pump chump. (40:41) Three pump chump, maybe.(40:44) Three possibilities, (40:46) the German way. (40:48) Three. (40:49) One, he killed himself, (40:51) like we’ve been told that he did.(40:56) Second, somebody killed him. (40:59) Third, this was all a ruse, (41:01) and he’s alive. (41:03) The dude died, supposedly, (41:07) with the net worth.(41:08) The fucking supposedly, dude? (41:10) Supposedly, bro. (41:12) That’s such a great non-word. (41:15) He died with a net worth of $577 million.(41:20) He was incredibly powerful, (41:23) incredibly wealthy, (41:25) incredibly influential. (41:26) Influential? (41:27) Goddamn. (41:28) Influential.(41:29) Too much Death Wish, bro. (41:30) Nuclear. (41:31) Influential.(41:33) And he was a master manipulator. (41:35) Yes. (41:36) And two days before, (41:37) he signed a will doing something, (41:39) but it wasn’t to keep his money.(41:41) No, it was, (41:41) he signed, (41:42) the will was altered (41:43) to put all of his assets (41:45) into a trust in the Virgin Islands. (41:48) Yeah. (41:48) That was, (41:49) but two days before his death, (41:51) that happened? (41:51) It was the last F.U. (41:53) Right.(41:53) In a weird way. (41:54) So that none of the victims (41:55) could get any money. (41:58) Yes, and that actually made, (42:00) that action made me lean (42:04) towards possible suicide, actually, (42:05) in a weird way.(42:06) Okay. (42:07) He’s like, (42:08) consciously, (42:08) gonna fuck them, (42:10) and I know I’m done, (42:11) so this is my last fuck you. (42:14) Like, there’s no need for him to do that (42:16) two days before he dies.(42:18) Correct. (42:18) Absolutely correct. (42:18) Unless someone either coerced him to do it, (42:20) was under duress, (42:21) it could once again be forced, (42:22) forced, (42:22) Yes, and I thought about that too.(42:24) So there’s a lot of things. (42:25) Okay, so pick one of the three, (42:28) and let’s bunk or debunk the three. (42:34) He’s not dead.(42:35) I’m thinking. (42:36) Okay, he killed himself. (42:36) No.(42:37) Let’s start with that one. (42:37) It’s definitely not one. (42:38) Okay, he did not kill himself.(42:39) He definitely did not kill himself, (42:40) in my opinion. (42:42) I agree that the evidence (42:45) that I have seen (42:46) or that’s been presented (42:47) to the public (42:48) would lean towards him not killing himself. (42:50) And that’s, (42:51) and when you say that, (42:52) that’s not just the Netflix special, (42:54) that’s, (42:54) you’ve done other reading, (42:56) you’ve listened to other podcasts.(42:57) It’s other things. (42:57) There’s a bunch of other stuff. (42:59) Right.(42:59) There’s gray. (43:00) There’s a lot of gray. (43:01) Yeah.(43:02) Reasonable doubt for sure (43:02) just runs rampant in this whole thing. (43:05) Okay, so he didn’t kill himself. (43:07) So we’re down to (43:08) not dead, (43:09) staged death? (43:10) Yeah, that’s three.(43:11) Or two he was killed. (43:12) Or two that he was killed. (43:14) Which of those, (43:15) okay, let’s go.(43:16) He was killed. (43:16) What, (43:18) it makes sense. (43:20) You do.(43:21) I agree. (43:23) I think it’s, (43:24) I think it’s a 50-50, (43:25) in my opinion. (43:25) And I, (43:26) I may be on the outside of, (43:28) of the common belief.(43:30) I mean, let’s, (43:32) regarding that. (43:33) I’d go 80-20. (43:34) Okay.(43:35) Killed versus, (43:36) versus fake his own death. (43:38) Only because of the powers that be. (43:39) But go ahead.(43:40) Yes, absolutely. (43:41) But he was one of the powers that be. (43:43) So, (43:44) I, (43:44) I also look at it (43:45) as the same thing where (43:46) my, (43:47) my biggest, (43:48) biggest question (43:49) in this whole thing, (43:51) this whole, (43:52) the notes I’ve taken (43:52) and the research I’ve done (43:54) and talking to you about it (43:55) and now today (43:56) is (43:58) why (43:59) this dude (44:01) was a demon (44:02) but he was a master manipulator (44:06) and he had power (44:09) to do basically whatever he wanted.(44:12) Why would he fly back to New Jersey? (44:15) Why? (44:16) Why would you, (44:17) in my mind, (44:19) he would know, (44:21) he would have, (44:22) I don’t want to use the word spies, (44:23) he’d have informants (44:25) in the FBI, (44:26) the CIA. (44:27) He’d be paying all these people (44:29) to know what’s really going on (44:31) and if they’re going to come after him. (44:33) He, (44:34) so I don’t, (44:34) I don’t get (44:35) why did he even go to Jersey? (44:37) Why did you, (44:38) why? (44:38) I don’t think he knew this one.(44:40) I honestly think that by going around Florida (44:43) and going to the FBI, (44:44) that he, (44:45) that that was isolated (44:46) from Jeffrey Epstein getting information. (44:48) But he could buy off (44:49) whoever he wanted. (44:50) But I don’t think (44:51) he was ever at the FBI level (44:53) so he never needed to buy, (44:54) what, (44:55) I don’t think you need, (44:56) I don’t think you just buy off people (44:57) to have them in your pocket (44:58) at all times.(44:59) Yeah. (45:00) Really? (45:00) I don’t. (45:01) I don’t have 500 million dollars.(45:04) If I’m rich, (45:04) I’m like, (45:05) I don’t think, (45:05) should I have an FBI agent (45:07) in my back pocket? (45:08) Well, (45:08) if you’re an evil fucker like him, (45:10) yes. (45:10) I know, (45:10) but you’re also narcissistic (45:12) and think you’re bulletproof (45:13) and think you, (45:13) think you, (45:14) you’re smarter than everyone. (45:15) Like, (45:16) there’s also some other things (45:17) that you’re, (45:17) you’re a victim of your own (45:19) amazingness.(45:19) I see your point, (45:21) yes. (45:21) You know, (45:22) Hitler’s dog, (45:23) he could get away with (45:23) whatever the fuck he wanted to. (45:24) Your egotistical nature, (45:25) yes.(45:25) I mean, (45:25) there’s nothing you can do about that. (45:27) But I don’t think, (45:27) I honestly don’t think, (45:29) I think it was a surprise. (45:30) I don’t, (45:30) or he wouldn’t have been there.(45:31) I don’t think he would have been there (45:32) had he thought that the FBI was coming. (45:35) I disagree completely. (45:36) I, (45:36) I think, (45:37) there’s no need to come then.(45:38) So then tell me why. (45:39) So, (45:40) I think, (45:41) that’s what doesn’t make sense to me (45:42) is that I don’t, (45:44) the guy knew. (45:45) I mean, (45:45) he, (45:45) he, (45:46) I don’t think he knew though.(45:47) But that’s a, (45:47) there’s an assumption (45:48) whether he knew or not, (45:49) right? (45:50) So we’ll go, (45:50) we’ll go with your assumption that he knew. (45:52) So let’s go down that, (45:53) down that trail. (45:54) Okay.(45:55) He knows and then what? (45:56) He comes anyway. (45:57) Yeah. (45:57) So that adds to the staging.(45:58) It makes no sense. (45:59) His death kind of like, (46:01) adds to the whole. (46:02) Yeah, (46:02) that, (46:03) or what? (46:03) Like what, (46:04) what do you, (46:04) I don’t know.(46:04) I don’t have another, (46:06) I don’t have any more holes to go down (46:07) regarding that. (46:08) I just don’t, (46:09) there’s, (46:10) there’s things that are illogical (46:11) about that event, (46:13) about him going to New Jersey (46:14) and getting arrested. (46:15) I don’t, (46:16) it doesn’t make sense to me.(46:17) I don’t think he was coming there (46:18) to get arrested. (46:19) I don’t know. (46:19) And the other thing is, (46:21) I don’t know if he was leaving or arriving (46:22) or what he was doing.(46:24) I think he was arriving. (46:25) Was he? (46:25) But I don’t know what. (46:26) Because I thought, (46:27) I, (46:27) if I were to take a guess, (46:28) I was feeling like they got him (46:30) as he was going to leave (46:31) to go somewhere.(46:32) Oh. (46:32) But I don’t know. (46:33) They didn’t clarify.(46:35) And it would matter (46:36) if it was, (46:37) say they caught him leaving. (46:38) Maybe he did get word (46:39) just a little too late, (46:41) right? (46:41) Yeah. (46:42) So.(46:43) We don’t know that. (46:43) We don’t know that. (46:44) And that’s all I’m saying is (46:45) we don’t know some of that information.(46:47) We’d have to look at that. (46:48) True. (46:49) But, (46:49) but that’s very interesting.(46:50) So, (46:50) of the two, (46:52) I personally, (46:53) if I were going to say, (46:55) I think he is dead. (46:57) Probably. (46:57) So, (46:57) so, (46:57) so what about the fake his own death? (46:59) Do you think, (46:59) do you think it’s, (47:00) there’s a possible, (47:01) a 50% possibility? (47:02) 50-50? (47:03) No.(47:04) In my mind, (47:04) it’s, (47:06) it’s 50, (47:06) it’s 50-50. (47:07) He is alive (47:09) and faked his own death (47:10) or he was killed. (47:11) That’s how I see it.(47:12) That’s what I’m saying. (47:12) So, (47:13) so there’s a 50% chance (47:14) that he faked his own death. (47:15) That’s a pretty high, (47:15) even.(47:16) Because he had, (47:17) because he had the means. (47:18) He had the brains, (47:19) the money, (47:20) the power. (47:21) He had the means (47:22) in every sense of the word (47:23) to do that.(47:25) And I don’t see him getting, (47:27) he was never sloppy. (47:29) You know what I mean? (47:30) He, (47:30) he always got out of everything. (47:32) He, (47:33) for Christ’s sake, (47:33) he went to fucking prison (47:34) and he was on work release (47:36) and he’s a pedophile? (47:38) Come on.(47:39) Right, (47:39) but that’s because I think he had a casa. (47:41) Well, yeah. (47:42) But he was in Florida at the time.(47:45) True. (47:46) And I don’t know how, (47:48) I don’t know how (47:50) political his aspirations went, (47:52) if that makes sense. (47:53) Acosta? (47:53) No, Epstein.(47:54) Okay. (47:55) He might, (47:56) he had people in powerful positions, (47:57) but they weren’t necessarily (47:58) always politicians. (47:59) Correct.(48:00) They weren’t necessarily always whatever. (48:01) It was business and politics. (48:02) Right, (48:03) so he could have just held (48:04) so many (48:06) people (48:07) under, (48:08) like, (48:08) with the information he had on them, (48:10) on dirt and whatnot.(48:11) But, (48:12) that said, (48:13) I don’t know if he had the, (48:13) the federal government. (48:15) I don’t, (48:15) I don’t know. (48:15) I’m, (48:15) like, (48:16) I just don’t know if he was, (48:17) I, (48:18) they never made it sound like he was fleeing, (48:19) but they never made it sound like he landed (48:21) and they arrested him, (48:22) either.(48:23) Right, (48:23) they did, (48:24) I’d have to look that up, (48:25) I guess. (48:25) They did say that when they raided his, (48:27) his apartment in New York (48:28) after he was arrested (48:29) in 2018, (48:32) 2019, (48:32) excuse me, (48:33) that they did find (48:35) fake passports (48:36) and (48:37) diamonds (48:38) and other things (48:39) that looked like a, (48:39) a bug out (48:41) pack, (48:42) for lack of a better description. (48:44) Which lends me to believe (48:45) it was even more of a surprise.(48:47) And because (48:48) the apartment itself (48:49) had all the (48:50) computers and everything in it still, (48:52) and the one other thing was pulled out (48:52) like it was previously, (48:54) I feel like it was (48:55) outside of his reach (48:56) at that time. (48:57) Not because he couldn’t (48:59) do it, (48:59) I don’t think, (49:01) you have to be, (49:02) how many, (49:03) how many chest moves ahead do you, (49:04) you have to think here. (49:05) Like, (49:06) to get the FBI in your pocket.(49:07) Right. (49:08) You know what I’m saying? (49:08) You’re like, (49:09) yeah, (49:09) it’s 42 moves down the board. (49:11) I was gonna say 10, (49:11) but sure.(49:11) Sure, 10. (49:12) Whatever, (49:13) cut it in half (49:14) and double it. (49:20) Alright, (49:21) so, (49:22) anything else (49:23) on the suicide versus death, (49:24) or do you wanna talk about (49:25) the cellmate? (49:27) Well, (49:27) I’m just saying, (49:29) I lean towards (49:30) death (49:31) 80% (49:32) dead, (49:34) and that it was (49:35) not him.(49:36) Okay. (49:38) If, (49:39) because of this, (49:41) it’s not like (49:43) Trump and Clinton (49:44) had things on each other. (49:45) Well, (49:45) I’m just saying, (49:46) for sake of argument, (49:47) I’m sorry, (49:48) I’m using names of people (49:49) that we know (49:50) haven’t been in pictures (49:51) or were seen with them, (49:52) right? (49:52) So, (49:52) Woody Allen, (49:53) we saw him with Kevin Spacey, (49:55) we saw him with Harvey Weinstein, (49:56) we saw him with Donald Trump, (49:57) we saw him with Bill Clinton, (49:58) right? (49:58) Yeah.(49:59) I don’t know if those all guys (50:01) had them on each other, (50:03) but it seems to be (50:05) that Avseen was the, (50:06) to your point, (50:07) the ringleader, (50:08) or the hub and spoke, (50:09) right? (50:09) Yeah. (50:09) Or the hub. (50:10) Yeah.(50:10) So, (50:11) what you do is, (50:13) he gets arrested, (50:14) he is now the key (50:14) to everyone else, (50:16) they’re all gonna (50:16) fucking want him dead. (50:18) Absolutely. (50:18) So that makes, (50:20) that just, (50:20) it just, (50:21) it’s just logic, (50:22) like, (50:22) yeah, (50:23) he could’ve killed himself (50:24) and been like, (50:24) yeah, (50:24) I could’ve gotten caught.(50:25) It doesn’t seem that (50:26) from the evidence (50:27) and the, (50:28) what we’ve seen (50:28) in the autopsy. (50:29) Okay, (50:29) so if he, (50:31) in your opinion, (50:32) he was killed, (50:33) so, (50:34) to go back to the, (50:36) his will was altered (50:38) two days earlier, (50:39) was that, (50:41) was that harassed? (50:43) Was he forced (50:43) into doing that, (50:44) or was that real? (50:45) Did he know (50:46) his time was coming? (50:48) It, (50:49) it’s completely speculative, (50:50) right? (50:51) Well, (50:51) yeah, (50:51) I’m asking your opinion. (50:53) He was just (50:54) screwing them over, (50:55) and I don’t know how long, (50:57) how many days (50:57) was he in jail? (50:58) Oh.(50:59) da da da. (51:00) Five days? (51:01) No, (51:02) he was arrested July 6th, (51:03) and he died August, (51:04) in August, (51:05) so, (51:06) I mean, (51:06) at least a month. (51:07) Okay, (51:07) so a month, (51:08) so, (51:08) but, (51:09) yeah, (51:09) the will thing was changed (51:10) two days before seems weird, (51:12) so that’s odd.(51:14) If I were to speculate, (51:15) that would make me lean more (51:16) towards suicide, (51:18) but two days before? (51:19) Not like, (51:21) I don’t know, (51:22) it doesn’t seem like, (51:23) I don’t know, (51:23) do you plan your, (51:24) you know when you’re gonna (51:25) commit suicide, (51:26) like the day, (51:27) the day you’re gonna commit suicide, (51:29) my understanding (51:29) from what I’ve seen (51:30) in the psychology (51:31) and people that I’ve, (51:32) I’ve had some experience (51:33) with that, (51:34) um, (51:35) the day of, (51:36) you know, (51:37) you’re like super calm, (51:38) you’re calm, (51:39) you’re just a different person (51:40) because you know it’s over, (51:41) but I don’t know (51:42) how far ahead you plan it, (51:44) like, (51:45) in three days, (51:46) I’m gonna kill myself, (51:47) you know what I mean? (51:48) Yeah. (51:48) So just because he did it (51:49) two days before, (51:50) that could have just (51:50) honestly been (51:52) completely just (51:53) the time thing, (51:57) versus an intent thing. (51:58) Yeah, (51:58) okay, (51:59) yeah, (51:59) I see, (52:00) I see what you’re saying.(52:00) It’s hard to be like, (52:01) yeah, (52:01) okay, (52:02) I’m gonna sign this now (52:03) and then in two days (52:03) I’m gonna kill myself. (52:04) Yeah, (52:04) two days. (52:04) But he’s also in prison, (52:06) right? (52:06) So, (52:07) or in the federal jail (52:08) in New York City.(52:09) Yeah. (52:09) So, (52:10) and it was called (52:10) The Tombs. (52:11) Was he not on, (52:12) he was also on (52:13) Suicide Watch.(52:14) I don’t think they said that (52:15) on the documentary, (52:16) but I believe that he was. (52:18) Outside of the documentary, (52:19) it was my understanding (52:19) that he was on (52:20) Suicide Watch. (52:21) He didn’t have laces, right? (52:22) Shoelaces or anything.(52:23) I don’t know about that. (52:25) Also, (52:26) the bruising (52:26) isn’t consistent (52:27) with the sheet (52:27) just around the neck. (52:29) That’s a separate thing (52:30) that I saw.(52:31) Okay. (52:31) Could be, (52:31) once again, (52:33) it’s hard because (52:34) it’s a borderline (52:35) conspiracy thing again (52:36) and the second we put on (52:39) the tinfoil hats, (52:40) Dude, (52:41) where’s my hat? (52:41) Shit. (52:41) We’re ready to make (52:43) baked potatoes.(52:45) Mmm, (52:46) papas. (52:46) Yeah, (52:47) my head just boils (52:48) inside of this (52:50) tinfoil. (52:50) But, (52:51) to that end, (52:53) yeah, (52:54) he had been on (52:54) Suicide Watch.(52:55) How was his demeanor (52:56) for a month (52:57) before it happened? (52:59) You know what I mean? (53:00) Yeah, (53:00) I don’t know. (53:02) If I were gonna kill him, (53:03) I would do it (53:04) a month later. (53:05) I’m just looking at it, (53:06) I wouldn’t do it (53:07) three days after (53:07) he gets there.(53:09) That would be (53:09) super suspicious. (53:11) Oh, you mean (53:11) kill him? (53:12) Yeah. (53:12) Okay, (53:13) I thought you meant suicide.(53:13) I’m sorry, (53:14) kill him. (53:14) I’m sorry. (53:16) His death.(53:16) If I were to kill him (53:17) versus the F, (53:18) I would kill him. (53:19) Let’s say you’re (53:19) President John, (53:21) President Dr. Pepper, (53:23) President Pepper. (53:24) Sweet.(53:25) Sweet. (53:25) I’m sorry, (53:26) I only go by Dr. (53:28) President Dr. Pepper? (53:29) No, (53:29) just Dr. Pepper. (53:30) Dr. President Pepper.(53:32) Dr. President Pepper. (53:34) Dr. Pepper Potts. (53:35) if, (53:35) if, (53:37) if Jeffrey Epstein (53:38) has something on (53:39) Dr. Pepper (53:40) presidential (53:41) whatever the fuck, (53:44) don’t you want him (53:45) dead sooner (53:46) rather than later? (53:47) Why wait a month (53:48) to make it look (53:50) less suspicious? (53:53) Pretty certain, (53:55) yes, (53:55) first of all, (53:56) to make it less suspicious.(53:57) Pretty certain he’s not (53:58) going to (54:00) rat, (54:01) like, (54:01) he’s not gonna have (54:02) an independent journalist (54:03) come (54:04) and rat him out. (54:06) In my opinion, (54:07) I think he knows (54:09) he’s gonna get off again (54:10) because he’s got Dershowitz (54:11) and he’s got all these (54:12) other fucking (54:12) high-powered attorneys. (54:13) Yeah, (54:14) I agree with that.(54:15) We didn’t talk about (54:16) Dershowitz either. (54:17) it’s on my list. (54:18) Oh, okay, (54:18) because he wasn’t even (54:19) on the thing.(54:20) Maybe I forgot. (54:21) No, (54:21) he’s on there. (54:22) Um, (54:23) okay, (54:23) I was just saying (54:24) on the timeline thing.(54:25) No, (54:25) he was not on the timeline. (54:26) Um, (54:28) but, (54:32) you’re Jeffrey Epstein. (54:33) You’ve gotten, (54:35) you’ve done what you’ve done.(54:37) You know you’ve done (54:37) what you’ve done. (54:38) You know how many people (54:40) you’ve physically, (54:41) emotionally, (54:42) whatever, (54:42) touched in (54:43) various different ways. (54:47) You’ve gotten, (54:47) you’ve gotten this far (54:48) without getting, (54:49) like, (54:50) without really (54:51) having any punishment.(54:54) Do you think (54:54) you’re gonna get away (54:55) with it this time? (54:56) Of course. (54:57) Yeah, (54:57) so, (54:58) I don’t think (55:00) you’d be in the mindset (55:01) of like, (55:01) I’m fucked. (55:03) I, (55:04) I agree.(55:04) I just, (55:05) I just don’t think (55:05) he would be. (55:07) That said, (55:08) it could be like, (55:08) I’ve been running (55:09) my whole time and sweating (55:10) and he’s had this (55:11) condominer, (55:12) right? (55:13) Like, (55:13) you know some people (55:14) like always on the run (55:15) and then they finally get calm (55:16) and they’re like, (55:16) oh God, (55:16) I can relax (55:17) because like. (55:18) Yeah.(55:18) I’ve, (55:19) I’ve been running so. (55:21) Well, (55:21) he’s always been like that. (55:22) He’s always been calm.(55:24) Right, (55:24) that’s my question though. (55:25) Is it, (55:26) is he calm because like (55:27) in his head he thinks (55:28) he’s that, (55:29) he’s God. (55:30) Yeah.(55:30) Right, (55:31) he’s God-like. (55:32) absolutely. (55:32) Or, (55:33) is he, (55:33) is he just showing (55:34) a calm demeanor (55:35) and freaking the fuck (55:36) out inside (55:37) because that’s, (55:38) that’s the guy (55:39) who would commit suicide, (55:40) right? (55:41) Not the guy who thinks (55:42) he’s gonna get off again.(55:44) So we need to know (55:46) his mindset. (55:47) What he, (55:48) did he think (55:48) he was gonna get, (55:51) you know, (55:51) not found not, (55:52) be found not guilty (55:53) after this. (55:55) Wouldn’t that affect (55:56) whether you, (55:57) I mean probably kill yourself (55:58) or not? (56:00) Because I wouldn’t want (56:01) the punishment.(56:01) Or would you wait? (56:02) Would you think, (56:02) okay, (56:03) would you go through the trial (56:04) and see like, (56:06) oh shit, (56:07) this is not going well. (56:08) Excellent point. (56:09) Or did, (56:10) could you buy off (56:10) some jurors? (56:12) Could, (56:12) you know what I mean? (56:13) You could, (56:13) because you, (56:14) you have many PIs, (56:15) could they find dirt (56:16) on those people (56:16) or try to blackmail them (56:18) or buy them off? (56:19) Hey, (56:19) here’s a million dollars (56:20) to say not guilty (56:21) or have a hung jury (56:22) or whatever.(56:25) Hanged jury? (56:26) Your jury was hung. (56:27) Well. (56:28) Like 10 inches.(56:30) Well hung. (56:32) Well hung, (56:34) like high noon. (56:39) Question, (56:40) I think.(56:41) Yes. (56:44) Epstein. (56:45) No.(56:46) Oh. (56:47) I’m just gonna tell you. (56:48) Okay.(56:48) He was killed. (56:50) Well that’s your, (56:51) oh dude, (56:51) I just wrote Beavis. (56:52) Oh bro, (56:53) fuck.(56:54) What did you, (56:54) his leg broke off? (56:56) It didn’t pop out of the socket? (56:57) Dead, (56:58) dead.com. (56:59) Bro, (56:59) How much have you manipulated this guy? (57:02) I manipulated Beavis. (57:04) He needs to get crazy. (57:05) One leg Beavis.(57:06) Do you have any gorilla groove, (57:08) bro? (57:09) Bro, (57:09) if you get cut off the other leg (57:11) and we replace it with blades, (57:12) we could have like a Beavis Pistorius. (57:16) Dude, (57:16) I can’t believe I broke him. (57:17) Bro, (57:18) you broke the Beav.(57:20) I need TP. (57:21) TP for my one leg. (57:22) TP.(57:24) I am TPing. (57:25) I am TPing now (57:26) for my bungle. (57:27) He’s tipping.(57:28) Alright. (57:29) So, (57:30) do you think, (57:32) what does that (57:32) change your mind (57:33) whether he killed himself (57:34) or whether he committed suicide? (57:36) And you still think it’s 50%? (57:37) Yeah, (57:37) because again, (57:38) he has the means, (57:39) he has the means (57:40) to pull it off. (57:42) He could buy off (57:43) everyone in that jail, (57:44) dude.(57:45) He had money. (57:46) He’s worth (57:47) $577 million. (57:49) He can throw away (57:50) $100 million (57:51) on the jail (57:53) to buy off (57:53) everyone in the jail.(57:54) The guys driving (57:55) the EMTs, (57:57) you know, (57:58) all that shit. (57:58) How does one orchestrate (58:00) that level (58:01) of everyone (58:02) getting paid off? (58:03) Well, (58:03) the lawyers would have, (58:04) the lawyers would talk (58:05) to the PIs (58:06) and they’d be (58:06) giving out bags of money. (58:08) You know, (58:08) kind of like that college (58:09) put fucking money (58:10) inside the McDonald’s bags.(58:12) But different. (58:12) They do it like that, (58:13) wait, (58:14) what? (58:15) Huh? (58:16) There was a college. (58:17) There wasn’t just hot coffee? (58:18) There was a college, (58:19) I think it was Tennessee? (58:21) Oklahoma State.(58:22) No, (58:23) it was like Tennessee (58:23) or Georgia. (58:24) I think it was Tennessee. (58:25) They were found (58:27) a couple years ago (58:28) recruiting, (58:29) they had these high schoolers (58:30) that were on campus (58:30) and they were giving them (58:31) McDonald’s bags (58:33) full of cash.(58:35) Beautiful. (58:35) This was just a month ago. (58:36) I didn’t see it.(58:37) Some things I see, (58:38) some things I don’t. (58:39) I don’t look for the news (58:40) that finds me. (58:40) You’re good, (58:41) you don’t need to see that shit.(58:42) Yeah, (58:42) news finds me, (58:43) man, (58:43) I don’t find news anymore. (58:44) Interesting. (58:46) No, (58:46) don’t put his leg, (58:49) just put Humpty Dumpty (58:50) at least next to him (58:51) back together.(58:52) Beavis Dumpty. (58:53) Humpty Beavis. (58:56) Alright.(58:57) So, (58:58) I just think 50% (59:00) alive. (59:00) Oh, (59:00) that’s fine. (59:01) Your title, (59:01) think whatever you want.(59:02) So am I. (59:04) Bro. (59:06) Whoa. (59:07) I did watch Michael Douglas’ (59:08) The Game with Sean Penn, (59:10) one of my favorite movies (59:11) of all time.(59:11) yeah, (59:11) yeah, (59:12) yeah. (59:12) And that whole thing (59:13) was orchestrated, (59:13) so that’s pretty good. (59:15) But that was a movie, (59:16) so.(59:16) Yeah, (59:16) that was fictional. (59:17) I know, (59:18) so it’s pretty, (59:18) I like the way (59:19) they did that movie. (59:20) In 2011, (59:21) Contagion came out (59:22) and that came true (59:23) in 2020, (59:24) so fuck it.(59:25) Oh, (59:25) shit. (59:26) Alright, (59:27) I’m out. (59:27) Bye.(59:29) Back to you, (59:31) Yeah, (59:31) why’d you go back to me then? (59:32) Get off me, (59:33) bro. (59:33) So, (59:34) do you want, (59:34) are we good with this (59:35) suicide death thing or not? (59:36) Yeah, (59:37) are you good with it? (59:38) Because you had three, (59:39) you had three very (59:40) excellent options. (59:42) Well, (59:42) option one’s not valid (59:43) in my opinion, (59:44) and two and three.(59:45) Suicide is valid. (59:46) No, (59:46) because a lot of people (59:47) kill themselves (59:47) when they get busted. (59:48) But I don’t think, (59:49) I don’t think he did.(59:50) That’s not in his DNA (59:51) to do that. (59:52) Yeah, (59:52) I don’t think that could mean. (59:53) Because he’s going to.(59:54) Well, (59:54) did Hitler shoot himself (59:55) in the head? (59:57) Or do you think (59:57) he was going to get, (59:58) you know what I’m saying? (59:58) Like, (59:59) walls were coming in. (1:00:02) Ah, (1:00:03) yeah. (1:00:04) Okay, (1:00:05) so do you, (1:00:06) alright, (1:00:06) what’s next? (1:00:07) What do you have next (1:00:08) on your, (1:00:08) no, (1:00:09) no, (1:00:09) don’t, (1:00:09) get off me, (1:00:10) bro.(1:00:12) Um, (1:00:13) Prince Andrew. (1:00:14) Okay. (1:00:16) The Duke of blah, (1:00:18) blah, (1:00:18) blah.(1:00:18) Kids are fucked. (1:00:19) The fucking Prince, (1:00:21) the youngest Queenie, (1:00:22) QE2 offspring. (1:00:24) Is he? (1:00:24) Is he? (1:00:25) Younger than Charles.(1:00:25) He’s under Charles, (1:00:26) right? (1:00:26) Charles and Andrew, (1:00:27) yeah? (1:00:27) Sure. (1:00:28) Charles and Andrew. (1:00:29) I’d watch that little fucker (1:00:30) get born, (1:00:30) I think too.(1:00:31) Some fucking TV show. (1:00:33) He’s not that young. (1:00:35) He’s got, (1:00:36) he’s older than us, (1:00:37) dude.(1:00:37) Oh, (1:00:37) yeah. (1:00:37) He’s in his 50s. (1:00:38) I meant, (1:00:39) I meant when, (1:00:39) didn’t he get married to some, (1:00:41) did he get married to Sarah, (1:00:42) was it Sarah, (1:00:42) was he the one that was with Sarah Ferguson? (1:00:45) I don’t know.(1:00:46) Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson? (1:00:49) Now I need to look that shit up. (1:00:51) you don’t, (1:00:51) you don’t have to look it up. (1:00:52) Let’s talk about Prince Andrew.(1:00:53) Just lock your computer. (1:00:54) Tell me about Prince Andrew. (1:00:54) So, (1:00:55) in 2001, (1:00:56) a young woman was (1:00:59) alleged that she was sex trafficked (1:01:01) by Jeffrey Epstein (1:01:02) to Prince Andrew (1:01:04) who abused her (1:01:05) in London.(1:01:06) He’s the Duke of York, (1:01:07) you’re correct. (1:01:07) The Duke, (1:01:08) Duke, (1:01:08) Duke, (1:01:09) Duke of Oil, (1:01:09) Oil, (1:01:10) Oil. (1:01:11) There is a picture (1:01:12) with this young lady (1:01:13) at the age of 17 (1:01:14) with Prince Andrew (1:01:15) with, (1:01:15) uh, (1:01:16) just a lame little Maxwell (1:01:18) in the background (1:01:19) and (1:01:20) the prince (1:01:22) says he (1:01:23) doesn’t recall (1:01:24) taking that picture.(1:01:26) Doesn’t, (1:01:26) never met the girl. (1:01:27) Denies everything categorically. (1:01:30) Sarah Ferguson.(1:01:32) Whatever. (1:01:34) Is his ex-wife. (1:01:37) And the reason (1:01:37) I fucking know all this shit (1:01:40) Is cause Meg (1:01:41) watches the show? (1:01:41) Is cause I was in (1:01:43) fucking Germany (1:01:44) in 1986 (1:01:46) when the wedding (1:01:47) was going on (1:01:48) and Europe (1:01:50) was fucking (1:01:51) grey-grey.(1:01:52) I just happened (1:01:53) to be there. (1:01:54) Ah, okay. (1:01:55) Anyway, (1:01:56) so yeah, (1:01:56) he was the one with Sarah Ferguson, (1:01:57) the redhead, (1:01:58) cute redhead.(1:01:59) And then they, (1:01:59) they got, (1:02:00) she was the first divorce (1:02:01) like 10 years later. (1:02:02) They never got divorced (1:02:03) I didn’t think back then. (1:02:04) I didn’t.(1:02:05) But Deanna, (1:02:05) they all set precedence (1:02:07) as, (1:02:07) as, (1:02:07) as, (1:02:07) as. (1:02:08) Many of the precedence. (1:02:10) When was he found (1:02:11) in the 2000 something? (1:02:13) When was he what? (1:02:13) Or was it 90 something? (1:02:14) When was he, (1:02:15) the picture taken? (1:02:15) 2001.(1:02:16) 2001? (1:02:17) Yes sir. (1:02:19) And then that information (1:02:20) was leaked in 2015. (1:02:24) Yes.(1:02:24) So he did, (1:02:25) the prince denies (1:02:26) ever (1:02:27) knowing the girl (1:02:28) but, (1:02:28) uh, (1:02:29) He doesn’t remember (1:02:29) even the picture. (1:02:30) Correct. (1:02:31) He says he never (1:02:32) remember even taking a picture.(1:02:33) So, (1:02:34) Doesn’t remember going, (1:02:35) ever being upstairs (1:02:36) in that house. (1:02:37) Which is (1:02:38) Ghislaine Maxwell’s (1:02:39) French (1:02:40) condo (1:02:40) house, (1:02:41) condo. (1:02:42) In London or France? (1:02:42) London.(1:02:43) Was it London? (1:02:44) But, (1:02:45) he claimed a great friendship (1:02:47) with her (1:02:47) but never was upstairs (1:02:49) in her place, (1:02:49) ever. (1:02:50) Like, (1:02:51) those two things (1:02:52) just seem inconsistent (1:02:52) just right there. (1:02:54) And then that he doesn’t, (1:02:55) you know, (1:02:55) the woman was saying (1:02:56) that he sweated all over (1:02:57) and he’s like, (1:02:58) I had a condition (1:02:58) where I didn’t sweat.(1:02:59) I don’t sweat. (1:03:00) Get the, (1:03:00) at that time, (1:03:01) while he’s sweating profusely (1:03:02) on the fucking, (1:03:03) interview. (1:03:05) You don’t like that guy, (1:03:07) huh? (1:03:07) I don’t like.(1:03:08) Who? (1:03:08) I don’t like people (1:03:09) who think they can just say (1:03:11) whatever the fuck they want (1:03:12) and expect us to just (1:03:13) eat it like (1:03:14) big turd sandwiches. (1:03:15) But that’s what you do (1:03:16) on this podcast. (1:03:18) Where do I accept (1:03:19) what people say? (1:03:20) I let people (1:03:21) say what they want.(1:03:22) I still have opinions. (1:03:23) So who, (1:03:25) who, (1:03:26) who do you hate worse (1:03:27) than Prince Andrew? (1:03:28) Oh, (1:03:30) Jesus. (1:03:34) I’m just kidding.(1:03:35) I love Jesus. (1:03:36) I don’t know (1:03:36) Jesus loves me, (1:03:37) but according, (1:03:37) there’s a song (1:03:38) that says he does. (1:03:39) Yeah.(1:03:39) This, (1:03:40) this I know. (1:03:41) Yes. (1:03:42) Jesus V. (1:03:43) Dude, (1:03:43) Steve’s co-worker.(1:03:44) Steve works (1:03:45) with the big guy. (1:03:46) You tell me, (1:03:46) man. (1:03:46) What about this? (1:03:47) So in addition, (1:03:49) I, (1:03:49) the rabbit hole, (1:03:50) once again, (1:03:50) what there is in, (1:03:52) there is a one hour, (1:03:52) or almost a one hour (1:03:53) long interview.(1:03:55) And is, (1:03:56) that’s what the BBC, (1:03:57) what the BBC, (1:03:57) that Prince Andrew did (1:03:59) to defend himself. (1:04:00) Yes. (1:04:00) And all it did (1:04:02) was make him seem (1:04:04) like he was, (1:04:05) it was a confession.(1:04:06) It’s, (1:04:07) it was a confession. (1:04:08) Yeah. (1:04:08) He didn’t, (1:04:09) that didn’t go well (1:04:09) for him.(1:04:10) That wasn’t, (1:04:11) he is not a, (1:04:12) he’s either not a smart man (1:04:15) or, (1:04:17) or he’s just not prepared (1:04:18) because he clustered (1:04:21) off the top (1:04:22) of our heads (1:04:22) we could come up (1:04:23) with better fucking shit. (1:04:25) A hundred times better. (1:04:26) Yeah.(1:04:27) And he knew that was coming up. (1:04:28) Like someone could come to me (1:04:29) off the street (1:04:29) and start hounding me (1:04:31) like she, (1:04:31) and she didn’t even hound him. (1:04:32) She just asked him serious, (1:04:33) hard, (1:04:34) they were direct, (1:04:35) hard questions, (1:04:35) but they were to get answers.(1:04:37) Yeah. (1:04:38) I would have easily, (1:04:39) the stuff he could have (1:04:40) just fucking made up. (1:04:41) Yeah, (1:04:41) I took a picture with her.(1:04:43) I took a picture with (1:04:44) a gazillion (1:04:45) fucking people. (1:04:45) A hundred people a day. (1:04:47) Yeah.(1:04:47) You know how many people (1:04:48) I took a picture with (1:04:49) last year? (1:04:50) Yeah. (1:04:51) 13,246. (1:04:53) Okay.(1:04:53) That’s a lot of people. (1:04:54) Am I supposed to fucking (1:04:55) remember this one woman? (1:04:56) Was I ever upstairs (1:04:57) in Giselle, (1:04:58) Jalene’s house or where? (1:04:59) Um, (1:04:59) we’ve been friends (1:05:00) since fucking, (1:05:01) since college, (1:05:02) since uni. (1:05:03) Okay.(1:05:04) You know what I’m saying? (1:05:05) Yeah. (1:05:06) The shit that he was (1:05:07) trying to dodge around it (1:05:08) versus, (1:05:09) he could have easily (1:05:10) just claimed all of it (1:05:12) and it, (1:05:13) and it would have been (1:05:14) innocuous, (1:05:14) I think. (1:05:16) Yes.(1:05:17) He didn’t do well. (1:05:18) No. (1:05:19) In, (1:05:19) in addition to that, (1:05:21) the, um, (1:05:22) the IT guy (1:05:23) on the island (1:05:23) who did all the (1:05:25) telecommunications (1:05:25) and networks (1:05:27) and shit (1:05:28) saw him (1:05:29) with that girl (1:05:31) on the island (1:05:32) in the pool together (1:05:33) and they, (1:05:35) they were (1:05:36) groping each other.(1:05:37) Grinding. (1:05:38) He was grinding on her. (1:05:38) Grinding.(1:05:39) Thank you. (1:05:39) He was grinding on her (1:05:40) and what it was (1:05:41) was he saw a current (1:05:42) picture of her (1:05:42) and did not recognize her. (1:05:43) But then he saw (1:05:44) an old picture of her (1:05:45) because she does not (1:05:45) look the same.(1:05:46) No, he saw that picture. (1:05:47) He saw that picture (1:05:47) and said yes, (1:05:48) that’s the one (1:05:48) they saw her at the pool (1:05:49) grinding. (1:05:50) So.(1:05:50) And one more thing (1:05:51) about this fucking Andrew guy. (1:05:53) Oh, dude. (1:05:54) I’m sorry about this subject.(1:05:55) This guy walks in (1:05:55) and he talks about (1:05:56) breaking things off (1:05:58) with, (1:05:58) he talks about (1:05:59) breaking things off (1:06:00) with Epstein. (1:06:01) He’s, (1:06:01) he’s gonna break off (1:06:02) communication (1:06:03) because he’s found guilty. (1:06:04) Is this what (1:06:05) the prince is saying? (1:06:06) Yeah.(1:06:06) Okay, I don’t remember this. (1:06:07) Okay. (1:06:07) Well, then he stayed (1:06:08) at his house (1:06:09) for four fucking days.(1:06:09) Remember, (1:06:10) that’s the whole fucking thing. (1:06:11) He goes, (1:06:11) oh, you didn’t, (1:06:12) that’s right, (1:06:12) you didn’t watch the interview. (1:06:14) Have you ever (1:06:15) watched the interview (1:06:15) in its entirety? (1:06:16) No, not the whole hour.(1:06:18) Worth watching. (1:06:19) No, thank you. (1:06:20) It is worth watching (1:06:21) because this guy’s (1:06:21) a bumbling idiot.(1:06:22) It’s like funny, (1:06:22) you just eat popcorn (1:06:23) and laugh at this (1:06:24) fucking moron. (1:06:26) So he goes, (1:06:27) I, (1:06:28) what does he say? (1:06:30) He stayed at his house. (1:06:32) He goes, (1:06:32) why didn’t you, (1:06:33) why didn’t you just call him (1:06:34) and break things up? (1:06:35) He goes, (1:06:35) I felt it was good to go, (1:06:36) better to go face to face (1:06:37) to break it off.(1:06:38) Right? (1:06:39) So then he goes, (1:06:41) she goes, (1:06:41) you stayed there four days. (1:06:43) It was convenient (1:06:44) to stay there. (1:06:44) He actually said (1:06:46) it was a convenient thing to do (1:06:48) in a fucking (1:06:49) sexual predator’s house (1:06:50) to stay four days later (1:06:52) after you’re going (1:06:53) to break off ties (1:06:53) after you find (1:06:54) that he’s a sexual predator (1:06:55) or, (1:06:56) or the accusations are there.(1:06:59) Bro, (1:06:59) bro, (1:07:00) this guy’s a, (1:07:01) uh, (1:07:01) and then secondly (1:07:03) was this. (1:07:04) Yeah. (1:07:04) He goes, (1:07:06) I worked (1:07:07) for something (1:07:07) with children (1:07:08) and I know (1:07:09) what to look for (1:07:10) and I never saw (1:07:10) any of that.(1:07:11) I look, (1:07:12) I knew what to look for (1:07:12) and I never saw it. (1:07:13) No. (1:07:13) And then later (1:07:14) in the interview, (1:07:15) he goes, (1:07:16) I never thought (1:07:17) to look for it.(1:07:18) He said the exact (1:07:19) fucking opposite thing (1:07:21) within the interview. (1:07:22) And this is the one (1:07:23) that gets me nuts (1:07:24) because that interviewer (1:07:26) had him on the road (1:07:27) dead to right. (1:07:29) She’s like, (1:07:29) wait a minute.(1:07:30) You told us (1:07:30) that you worked (1:07:31) with this type (1:07:32) of stuff (1:07:33) so you had an eye (1:07:34) for it, (1:07:34) never saw it (1:07:35) and now you’re claiming (1:07:36) that you never thought (1:07:37) to even look for it. (1:07:38) So which one is that? (1:07:41) Cause that’s a big difference (1:07:42) just right there, (1:07:43) you know? (1:07:44) Anyway, (1:07:45) it absolutely is. (1:07:46) I’ve got, (1:07:47) I’m, (1:07:47) I’m a, (1:07:47) you know what? (1:07:48) I’m an anti Android.(1:07:50) Whoa. (1:07:52) Just, (1:07:52) just this one, (1:07:53) just this one. (1:07:54) I’m anti Prince Android.(1:07:55) Not, (1:07:56) not, (1:07:56) not all of them. (1:07:57) Yeah. (1:07:58) I like a lot of Drew’s (1:07:59) and Andrew’s name, (1:07:59) right? (1:08:00) Andy’s.(1:08:00) Yeah. (1:08:00) Bring an Andy over. (1:08:02) Andy seems like a fun guy.(1:08:05) Anything else on the Prince? (1:08:07) Get off me, bro. (1:08:11) I’m done. (1:08:11) I’m done with the Prince.(1:08:12) What do you, (1:08:13) please? (1:08:13) Final thoughts. (1:08:14) I think he’s guilty as shit. (1:08:17) Um, (1:08:20) and I believe he’s like, (1:08:22) it’s not sequestered, (1:08:24) but he’s been in the royal palace (1:08:26) for an extended period of time (1:08:28) because of these allegations.(1:08:30) Is that correct? (1:08:30) I don’t know this. (1:08:31) No, (1:08:32) I don’t know where I heard that, (1:08:33) but he should stay the fuck out of everybody’s way (1:08:35) because he’s a fucking piece of shit. (1:08:39) Yes.(1:08:40) And once again, (1:08:40) it’s goes into the Royal thing. (1:08:42) I thought that too. (1:08:43) Isn’t that great? (1:08:43) Because there’ll never be Royals, bro.(1:08:45) So they’ve got the, (1:08:46) uh, (1:08:46) 13 miles of coastline. (1:08:48) They own all the dolphins (1:08:49) and they diddle girls. (1:08:50) And a bat cave.(1:08:52) Yes. (1:08:52) And they have non-consensual sex with minors. (1:08:55) That’s fucking great.(1:08:56) Thank you. (1:08:59) I should not be in charge of the subject matter. (1:09:01) You brought this one to me, bro.(1:09:03) I, (1:09:03) I, (1:09:03) I, (1:09:04) I, (1:09:05) I did want to talk about it. (1:09:06) I just didn’t know how we could talk about it (1:09:08) because it’s so much, (1:09:09) so much to unpack. (1:09:10) So we’re not releasing it.(1:09:11) Okay. (1:09:11) That’s fantastic. (1:09:12) Love it.(1:09:12) No, (1:09:12) we’re good. (1:09:13) We’re now we’re 13 in (1:09:14) or an hour, (1:09:15) an hour, (1:09:15) whatever it takes. (1:09:16) Yeah.(1:09:17) So Andrew, (1:09:17) okay, (1:09:18) now what’s next? (1:09:19) Oh, (1:09:19) we already talked about Acosta resigning (1:09:21) from the Department of Labor. (1:09:22) What are your thoughts about all that though? (1:09:23) All those connections, (1:09:24) all those ties and how much, (1:09:25) he just looks like a fucking weasel. (1:09:27) No, (1:09:28) he looks like a wet fish.(1:09:30) Like it’s not, (1:09:33) he’s not a, (1:09:34) he’s not a, (1:09:36) he doesn’t even look like a man. (1:09:37) He looks like a, (1:09:38) that’s the guy. (1:09:39) He’s like a piece of spaghetti.(1:09:40) He was soft spoken. (1:09:41) He never talked much. (1:09:42) He was our neighbor that, (1:09:43) oh yeah, (1:09:43) he went on killings, (1:09:44) bro.(1:09:44) Yeah. (1:09:45) He never talked to anybody. (1:09:46) That’s the guy.(1:09:48) I see. (1:09:49) He just seemed like he just seems dirty. (1:09:51) Every time I see a picture of him (1:09:52) and when he tries to explain it (1:09:53) and he talks about it, (1:09:54) I just get, (1:09:55) it gets dirt.(1:09:56) It gets ugly. (1:09:57) It’s dirty. (1:09:58) I feel like his words are lies (1:10:00) and dirty.(1:10:01) Dirtiness and ugliness. (1:10:02) In addition, (1:10:04) shave your head. (1:10:06) Do it.(1:10:06) The comb over, (1:10:07) Oh, (1:10:07) he’s got the, (1:10:08) stop, (1:10:08) please. (1:10:09) Dear all comb over people. (1:10:11) Yeah.(1:10:12) Just go, (1:10:12) man. (1:10:12) Just let that shit. (1:10:13) It’s going to be okay.(1:10:15) That he resigned (1:10:17) from a position of which (1:10:19) there’s only 15 in the world. (1:10:21) It tells you either (1:10:22) how scared he was (1:10:24) about something coming out (1:10:25) or how powerful (1:10:26) the evidence may be (1:10:27) or, (1:10:28) or how bad (1:10:30) badly he felt (1:10:30) or not bad felt (1:10:31) or how much trouble (1:10:33) he felt he could be (1:10:33) and I think (1:10:34) if he kept going (1:10:34) and I didn’t look at it (1:10:36) that way at first (1:10:37) cause I looked at it as (1:10:39) the number of people (1:10:41) that quit (1:10:42) or got fired (1:10:42) in the Trump administration (1:10:44) was astronomical. (1:10:45) That is also (1:10:45) people came and went.(1:10:47) It seemed like (1:10:48) they were coming (1:10:49) in and out of damn (1:10:50) seven 11 (1:10:50) buying fucking beer. (1:10:52) So I was just like, (1:10:54) Oh, (1:10:54) he’s just another, (1:10:55) another guy, (1:10:56) the director of the FBI, (1:10:57) the director of the little other, (1:10:59) you know, (1:10:59) they just was like (1:11:00) this revolving door (1:11:01) of people. (1:11:02) So (1:11:03) I think that that (1:11:07) devalued (1:11:07) the, (1:11:08) the horribleness (1:11:09) of the entire (1:11:11) situation (1:11:11) and all the victims (1:11:13) and all the survivors (1:11:14) because this guy, (1:11:15) it was overshadowed (1:11:16) by the fact that (1:11:17) so many people quit (1:11:19) or got fired (1:11:20) during those four years.(1:11:21) Yeah, (1:11:21) it is. (1:11:22) It is once again, (1:11:22) hard to say (1:11:23) what it was, (1:11:24) but I thought (1:11:25) they implied though (1:11:26) that Trump called (1:11:27) him and said, (1:11:28) you know, (1:11:29) Epstein. (1:11:30) I would not be surprised (1:11:31) by that.(1:11:32) about that. (1:11:33) So I would not be surprised (1:11:34) because that would make sense (1:11:35) from a political perspective, (1:11:37) right? (1:11:37) That president (1:11:38) or that whoever (1:11:39) goes, (1:11:40) Hey, (1:11:40) look man, (1:11:40) you, (1:11:41) you have to quit (1:11:42) because you’re going (1:11:43) to take us all down. (1:11:44) Yeah.(1:11:44) The optics, (1:11:45) you have to cut the ties. (1:11:46) Yeah. (1:11:47) So, (1:11:47) but it’s like, (1:11:48) it’s interesting though, (1:11:49) whether he would be this, (1:11:51) he would say like, (1:11:53) yeah, (1:11:54) we need to talk about this.(1:11:55) This doesn’t look good. (1:11:55) Or whether it was, (1:11:57) you know, (1:11:58) strategic. (1:11:59) Well, (1:11:59) whether it was a blow up (1:12:00) or whether it was, (1:12:01) I’m assuming strategic.(1:12:03) I’m assuming all of, (1:12:04) I mean, (1:12:04) it was to, (1:12:05) you know, (1:12:05) all the advisors. (1:12:05) Schumer called for his head. (1:12:06) Chuck Schumer called for his head.(1:12:08) So, (1:12:08) okay. (1:12:08) That was, (1:12:09) well, (1:12:09) that was the pressure (1:12:10) was because of the Epstein (1:12:12) thing coming up. (1:12:12) The pressure was for Acosta (1:12:14) to resign (1:12:14) because he could have (1:12:16) had him still in jail right now.(1:12:17) Like this would have never gotten there. (1:12:20) Had Acosta done his, (1:12:22) yes, (1:12:23) had done more. (1:12:24) I’m not going to say his job (1:12:25) because you can argue he did his job, (1:12:28) but it just wasn’t.(1:12:29) Well, (1:12:29) there was one count (1:12:30) and there was immunity. (1:12:31) Right. (1:12:31) And he said, (1:12:32) yeah, (1:12:32) because we got a conviction.(1:12:33) That’s a horseshit fucking. (1:12:34) Of course it was, (1:12:35) but he had to defend himself. (1:12:35) Yeah, (1:12:36) statistic, (1:12:36) right? (1:12:36) It’s like, (1:12:37) hey, (1:12:37) I’m one for one.(1:12:38) Okay. (1:12:38) What’d you get? (1:12:39) Oh, (1:12:39) two days in jail. (1:12:39) Okay, (1:12:40) cool.(1:12:40) Cool. (1:12:41) Oh, (1:12:43) what? (1:12:44) Dance in two days. (1:12:45) Sweet.(1:12:45) You’re like, (1:12:46) what the fuck? (1:12:47) Are you serious? (1:12:48) Anyway. (1:12:49) Okay. (1:12:50) Any last time Acosta? (1:12:52) Uh, (1:12:52) he’s wet, (1:12:53) wet noodle, (1:12:54) bro.(1:12:55) Wet noodle. (1:12:55) I like wet noodle head. (1:12:57) No, (1:12:57) no, (1:12:57) no, (1:12:57) neon noodle.(1:12:59) Rubber eraser head. (1:13:01) I’m going to rub you out. (1:13:02) See, (1:13:03) get out.(1:13:05) Duck twicey. (1:13:06) What kind of vehicle is Marine one? (1:13:12) Helicopter. (1:13:13) Is it? (1:13:14) Yeah.(1:13:14) Do the thing. (1:13:15) Do the thing. (1:13:16) Helicopter.(1:13:17) Oh, (1:13:23) we’re going to have, (1:13:24) you know what? (1:13:24) I should, (1:13:25) I should reach out to her. (1:13:26) You think I should reach out to share Lloyd and go, (1:13:28) share Lloyd. (1:13:29) You are the center of our podcast.(1:13:31) The last couple that we’ve done. (1:13:38) I played it for you. (1:13:39) No, (1:13:39) it’s true.(1:13:40) It’s true. (1:13:41) We should put that link on the fucking notes. (1:13:44) Shouldn’t we? (1:13:45) All right.(1:13:46) I’m going to get you a toy helicopter, (1:13:47) dude. (1:13:48) Okay. (1:13:49) We should get a toy helicopter.(1:13:51) Transformers. (1:13:52) We should get. (1:13:52) Okay.(1:13:53) Yeah. (1:13:53) Not a go bot though. (1:13:55) Don’t fuck.(1:13:56) Don’t fuck with me with go bots and their half ass bullshit there. (1:13:59) They mail that shit in Capro. (1:14:01) Yeah.(1:14:02) Anyway, (1:14:02) good. (1:14:04) Uh, (1:14:04) my next notes are regarding the fact that the web, (1:14:10) of horseshit Epstein and Maxwell and the other people that recruited girls, (1:14:18) they targeted a certain kind of girl. (1:14:20) They targeted somebody with a, (1:14:21) a past where they had been abused as a kid or came from their parents were (1:14:27) drug addicts.(1:14:28) They came from a bad situation and they brought them in in the hopes of (1:14:34) getting out of that situation and the manipulative in that way. (1:14:37) Um, (1:14:38) in addition, (1:14:40) that’s disgusting. (1:14:41) Yeah.(1:14:41) It’s almost like this is my paraphrase. (1:14:45) So it’s almost like he got off on that. (1:14:49) He got off on the fact that this, (1:14:50) this young woman was previously traumatized and that, (1:14:55) well, (1:14:55) he’s going to go, (1:14:56) how can I use this to my advantage? (1:14:57) Right.(1:14:58) How am I, (1:15:00) this woman’s broken. (1:15:01) I can use that. (1:15:02) Yeah.(1:15:03) That’s basically all it was. (1:15:04) And I, (1:15:04) and I, (1:15:04) do you think that was a conscious thought or is that, (1:15:07) was it? (1:15:07) Okay. (1:15:07) Well, (1:15:07) he’s a predator.(1:15:08) Well, (1:15:08) yeah. (1:15:09) I mean, (1:15:09) or is that just what he did? (1:15:10) Is that just, (1:15:11) you know what I mean? (1:15:11) Was that conscious or was that just his behavior pattern on (1:15:16) subconsciously? (1:15:17) Epstein could instinctually just be a fucking predator. (1:15:21) Right.(1:15:21) And not even, (1:15:22) he doesn’t, (1:15:23) he doesn’t even know any better. (1:15:24) Is that, (1:15:25) is that possible? (1:15:27) No better, (1:15:27) not care about her for sure. (1:15:28) Yeah.(1:15:29) Right. (1:15:29) I mean, (1:15:29) look, (1:15:30) no. (1:15:31) Yeah.(1:15:31) That’s a bad statement. (1:15:35) Well, (1:15:35) no, (1:15:36) no, (1:15:36) I, (1:15:36) because it’s valid because better, (1:15:39) once again, (1:15:39) better is a judgment thing. (1:15:40) So it’s like knowing better, (1:15:42) like knowing that if I take your life is not good for you, (1:15:47) this is true, (1:15:48) caring whether your life continues or not.(1:15:51) Those are two very different things, (1:15:53) right? (1:15:53) Like, (1:15:53) I just don’t know the level that his, (1:15:56) when I can tell you that the thing about the trauma that he (1:15:59) could just sense absolutely real. (1:16:03) Cause it’s like birds of a feather. (1:16:04) It’s very interesting.(1:16:09) Anyway, (1:16:10) next. (1:16:11) Oh, (1:16:12) did I next to you? (1:16:13) You did. (1:16:13) Damn it.(1:16:14) I love it. (1:16:15) Uh, (1:16:15) the next thing, (1:16:16) bro, (1:16:16) I’m looking forward. (1:16:17) We’re, (1:16:18) we’re getting close to our bro.(1:16:19) Sushi. (1:16:19) Oh, (1:16:20) one time. (1:16:23) In addition to targeting a certain kind of a girl, (1:16:26) each victim story started the same where they were asked to give Mr. (1:16:30) Epstein a massage and escalated very quickly from there.(1:16:34) Many victims did not want to prosecute for fear of retribution from Epstein (1:16:41) and his army of PIs and not nice people. (1:16:46) Um, (1:16:47) the, (1:16:48) I was trying to figure out how big does this thing go? (1:16:53) And they interviewed two different women who were abused and then (1:16:58) recruited other girls. (1:17:00) Uh, (1:17:01) one girl said she brought 24 other girls.(1:17:04) One girl said she brought between 40 and 60 and the main private (1:17:10) investigator that worked with the FBI and worked at, (1:17:14) he did some surveillance on Epstein said that he knew of 46 victims. (1:17:18) So obviously those numbers could, (1:17:20) they could overlap, (1:17:21) right? (1:17:22) Yeah. (1:17:22) But you’re talking a hundred.(1:17:24) I would think at least a hundred, (1:17:26) right? (1:17:27) If not more. (1:17:27) Yeah. (1:17:27) And that’s, (1:17:28) and of those four of them were related.(1:17:31) I mean, (1:17:31) two pairs of sisters. (1:17:33) Okay. (1:17:34) Of, (1:17:34) let’s say a hundred, (1:17:35) 150 victims, (1:17:36) six or seven were on the documentary.(1:17:39) So how, (1:17:40) and this is horrible, (1:17:41) but I thought how many kill themselves? (1:17:45) How many are so, (1:17:48) how many are so emotionally traumatized that they can’t even talk about it? (1:17:54) How many are so messed up in so many ways that nobody knows about? (1:17:59) And I was like, (1:18:00) that’s what makes it odd, (1:18:01) right? (1:18:01) That there’s only six or seven that we know of that speak to this with the (1:18:05) depth that it was. (1:18:06) And the, (1:18:06) and like the credibility of the accusations. (1:18:10) Yeah.(1:18:10) Obviously there’s, (1:18:10) they’re always going to be accusations because he was not found guilty and (1:18:13) what, (1:18:13) but we’re pretty certain we know what the fuck’s going on here. (1:18:16) Right? (1:18:16) Like court of court of public appeal. (1:18:19) This dude’s fucking piece of shit.(1:18:21) Yeah. (1:18:22) Be shit. (1:18:23) And in the one case of the one girl that brought 24 other girls, (1:18:26) I thought, (1:18:26) okay, (1:18:27) how many freak the fuck out? (1:18:30) And was like, (1:18:31) fuck you.(1:18:32) I’m, (1:18:32) and they ran there. (1:18:33) There had to be some, (1:18:35) so I’m trying to think. (1:18:36) And they wouldn’t say anything.(1:18:37) They’d just be like, (1:18:37) I just laughed or whatever. (1:18:38) Right. (1:18:39) I was 17.(1:18:40) This weird thing happened. (1:18:41) I was uncomfortable and I got out of there. (1:18:42) So I’m trying to think of all the young ladies involved, (1:18:47) how many are no longer with us? (1:18:49) How many are going to be in therapy the rest of their lives? (1:18:51) How many can’t talk about it? (1:18:52) How many didn’t, (1:18:54) how many were at the house? (1:18:55) Or where in, (1:18:57) in Paris or in New Mexico, (1:18:59) his other fucking estate and didn’t get abused, (1:19:03) but were attempted, (1:19:04) you know, (1:19:05) where I don’t think we’re ever going to know that, (1:19:07) but there, (1:19:07) there has to be at least a percentage.(1:19:10) I would guess. (1:19:11) Yeah. (1:19:12) What’s interesting about this too, (1:19:14) is ideas and general thoughts are bad.(1:19:18) I thought my ideas were bad. (1:19:19) They’re probably also bad. (1:19:20) Now that you say that.(1:19:22) Yes. (1:19:22) Moving along to, (1:19:24) um, (1:19:25) we’ll save the young lady for last, (1:19:28) but, (1:19:28) uh, (1:19:29) Alan Dershowitz was Mr. (1:19:31) Epstein’s lawyer. (1:19:32) And for several cases, (1:19:35) and he was accused by the same young lady that, (1:19:41) um, (1:19:41) was abused by Prince Andrew.(1:19:44) She says that, (1:19:45) um, (1:19:46) Alan Dershowitz slept with her six or seven times. (1:19:48) Five or six times. (1:19:49) And he completely denies that.(1:19:52) He played a very big role in this documentary for me. (1:19:57) Cause the things he said were very powerful. (1:20:01) So it wasn’t like he was on there a lot, (1:20:03) but when he was on there, (1:20:04) everything he said was, (1:20:06) had a point.(1:20:07) I, (1:20:07) I agree. (1:20:08) But this is where I’m really confused now. (1:20:13) Cause I want to think that they start with Dershowitz and they say, (1:20:19) he goes, (1:20:20) I was born a defense attorney.(1:20:22) Yeah. (1:20:22) Well, (1:20:23) he defended OJ. (1:20:23) And you look at the list.(1:20:25) And a bunch of famous fucking people. (1:20:28) Famous people just who were accused of some really fucking crazy shit. (1:20:32) Right? (1:20:33) Like, (1:20:33) yeah.(1:20:35) Really bad shit. (1:20:37) And murder. (1:20:38) And I get there is that mentality is like everyone’s right to that fairness of a (1:20:44) trial or whatever.(1:20:45) Right. (1:20:46) And do everything you can. (1:20:47) Yeah.(1:20:48) I am curious what level that played for everyone. (1:20:52) Right. (1:20:52) Cause like if I’m, (1:20:54) if I’m your defense attorney, (1:20:58) I would never want to know if you did or not.(1:21:02) Right. (1:21:03) And if I ever heard one way or another, (1:21:05) I could either defend or not defend you. (1:21:08) Like if someone told like, (1:21:10) honest, (1:21:10) I’ll be honest.(1:21:10) If I were a defense attorney and someone’s like, (1:21:12) yeah, (1:21:13) if I can cut that person to 13 pieces and fucking stuck in my trunk, (1:21:16) I’d be like, (1:21:16) I gotta go. (1:21:18) Like, (1:21:19) or someone who’s saying, (1:21:20) you know, (1:21:20) obviously may have, (1:21:21) that may have been the accusation, (1:21:22) but they’re claiming their innocence the whole time. (1:21:24) Right.(1:21:24) They’re claiming that they didn’t do it. (1:21:26) It’s much different than a confession. (1:21:29) Right.(1:21:29) This guy. (1:21:30) So this guy has defended all these famous, (1:21:36) I mean, (1:21:37) infamous, (1:21:38) famous people accused of doing bad things. (1:21:40) Yeah.(1:21:41) And then, (1:21:42) so the credibility is like, (1:21:44) well, (1:21:44) he defended Epstein also. (1:21:46) And they were friends. (1:21:46) They were colleagues.(1:21:47) He gave him his book to read too. (1:21:49) So he could review it and stuff. (1:21:51) So now there’s another tie with Epstein.(1:21:54) Is correlation, (1:21:55) causation, (1:21:56) right? (1:21:57) Is he part of it? (1:21:58) Because is that what made them friends? (1:22:01) Right. (1:22:02) Or how did that whole thing happen? (1:22:05) That’s entirely possible. (1:22:07) I mean, (1:22:08) and again, (1:22:09) it’s to your point of, (1:22:10) he said, (1:22:10) she said, (1:22:11) so when they, (1:22:12) when they interview the young lady and she says a, (1:22:14) and they interviewed Dershowitz and he says B, (1:22:17) that are categorically not the same, (1:22:20) who do you believe? (1:22:21) So how credible is Dershowitz’s claim that he’s not, (1:22:27) that he did not do that? (1:22:28) Or is there proof? (1:22:29) Is there video footage somewhere? (1:22:31) Right.(1:22:31) I’m just talking about right now, (1:22:33) we’re in a, (1:22:33) he said, (1:22:33) she said, (1:22:34) correct. (1:22:34) We’ll just talk about credibility to the two individuals. (1:22:37) The credibility of the two individuals is the one woman accused Prince Andrew (1:22:41) and has a picture up with him.(1:22:43) Prince Andrew is a fucking bumbling moron. (1:22:44) And it happened. (1:22:45) We know we, (1:22:46) we’re pretty certain.(1:22:48) We don’t have proof. (1:22:49) We weren’t there. (1:22:49) We didn’t see Dean.(1:22:50) We didn’t see D and V, (1:22:52) but we’re pretty, (1:22:53) we didn’t see P and V, (1:22:55) no D and V, (1:22:56) no big D. (1:22:57) Okay. (1:22:58) No a, (1:22:59) no V, (1:22:59) no, (1:23:00) no M, (1:23:00) no ATM, (1:23:02) no MTA. (1:23:02) Thank you.(1:23:02) Move along. (1:23:03) I don’t know. (1:23:04) MFFF, (1:23:04) MMM, (1:23:06) FFFM.(1:23:07) He jerk face. (1:23:10) But that all said, (1:23:11) like why claimed Dershowitz then? (1:23:13) Like there, (1:23:14) there’s no additional add on. (1:23:15) Like she’s got a plenty of cred with the son.(1:23:19) Of the queen of England. (1:23:21) Well, (1:23:21) I think she’s stating that she was trafficked is that she was loaned out by Epstein. (1:23:28) No, (1:23:28) my point is other people, (1:23:30) right? (1:23:30) My point is aware.(1:23:32) Why would she lie about it? (1:23:33) Being Dershowitz is my point. (1:23:35) I agree completely. (1:23:37) Or Dershowitz has a little bit more of enough.(1:23:39) He’ll climb on credibility. (1:23:40) Do you believe him? (1:23:43) No, (1:23:44) I have a hard time believing him too. (1:23:46) Cause he has every right to claim his innocence.(1:23:48) He has to be proven that I, (1:23:50) why, (1:23:50) why would, (1:23:50) even if he, (1:23:51) you know what I mean? (1:23:52) Like I, (1:23:52) he would say he’s not guilty regardless. (1:23:54) And I found it very interesting that they, (1:23:57) he, (1:23:57) his interview was, (1:23:58) you know, (1:24:00) speckled throughout the four part documentary, (1:24:03) right? (1:24:03) Well, (1:24:04) the last half hour, (1:24:06) that’s when they get to the point that she says that he slept with me six times. (1:24:11) They waited, (1:24:12) they waited three and a half hours of his credibility and his testimony of other stuff.(1:24:17) Right. (1:24:17) And I was like, (1:24:18) Oh shit. (1:24:19) Because there was never an accusation that he is also guilty of this.(1:24:24) Yeah. (1:24:24) That was not till late. (1:24:25) And then I’m like, (1:24:26) Oh fuck, (1:24:26) this fucking guy too.(1:24:29) Weird, (1:24:30) right? (1:24:31) No, (1:24:31) I’m with you. (1:24:32) It was the strangest thing in that respect. (1:24:36) Yes.(1:24:38) Anything else on the lawyer, (1:24:40) sir? (1:24:41) Um, (1:24:44) so I’m moving along to my favorite subject regarding this, (1:24:49) the building on the Island separate from all the other buildings that Mr. (1:24:56) Epstein said was his gym, (1:24:58) his fitness center, (1:25:00) uh, (1:25:00) is not anything like the rest of the buildings on the Island. (1:25:04) It’s painted in these strange white and blue stripes has a gold dome and is (1:25:10) very far away from all the other structures, (1:25:16) whatever you want to say. (1:25:17) The nighttime is the right time.(1:25:19) The nighttime is the right time. (1:25:21) What is that? (1:25:22) Where is that? (1:25:22) Where’s from Adam Sandler? (1:25:23) Okay. (1:25:25) When the guy, (1:25:25) why don’t you join a call with me? (1:25:27) Okay.(1:25:28) So there are pictures on the internet, (1:25:30) whether they’re, (1:25:31) whether they’re real or not. (1:25:33) Um, (1:25:33) I, (1:25:34) again, (1:25:34) Photoshopped, (1:25:35) I don’t know, (1:25:35) but I’ve had several conversations with several people that brought this to my (1:25:39) attention and they did not mention it in the documentary. (1:25:42) They did show the building, (1:25:43) but there are pictures of this building.(1:25:49) Um, (1:25:50) there are concrete altars in front of it and there are two gold statues on top (1:25:56) of the building, (1:25:57) which I don’t remember the name of the figurehead, (1:26:03) but it’s like the demon of child sacrifice and pedophilia. (1:26:08) Yeah. (1:26:10) And you’re turning your, (1:26:11) I’m just turning that for you.(1:26:12) Is that, (1:26:12) that’s the, (1:26:12) that’s the building. (1:26:13) So you see the gold statue on the, (1:26:14) on the corner, (1:26:15) correct? (1:26:15) Yeah. (1:26:16) So making sure, (1:26:17) yeah, (1:26:18) it’s blue and white.(1:26:19) It’s very horizontally with a gold dome, (1:26:21) gold like accents everywhere. (1:26:23) Yeah. (1:26:23) And some other stuff.(1:26:24) So, (1:26:25) and there, (1:26:25) there’s all, (1:26:26) I just, (1:26:27) you’re Google just a very, (1:26:28) some, (1:26:28) I just wrote, (1:26:29) I think I typed in Ireland or some shit. (1:26:31) I did. (1:26:31) Epstein, (1:26:32) Jim alter.(1:26:33) There you go. (1:26:35) So then aft, (1:26:37) a L T a R, (1:26:38) not E R, (1:26:39) not altered, (1:26:40) not alter, (1:26:41) but all tar. (1:26:43) We don’t want to get homonymed in this mother.(1:26:45) That’s isn’t homonymed. (1:26:46) The worst getting homonymed is like, (1:26:48) I didn’t know homonymed was a verb, (1:26:49) bro. (1:26:49) I just made a verb.(1:26:50) So, (1:26:51) so I approved that. (1:26:52) So later on the statues on top of the building (1:26:56) and the altars were removed. (1:26:59) So do you have a timeframe on that? (1:27:01) I don’t, (1:27:01) I do not.(1:27:02) I wish I did. (1:27:04) I wish I had some more information, (1:27:05) but I, (1:27:06) if you have statues on the top of the building (1:27:08) that are known to be child sacrifice (1:27:12) and child pedophilia associated, (1:27:17) that’s fucked up. (1:27:20) And, (1:27:20) uh, (1:27:20) yeah.(1:27:21) So I’m just, (1:27:23) I’m curious of the fact that this was on Netflix, (1:27:27) but this was released for ratings. (1:27:30) Oh, (1:27:30) I mean, (1:27:31) that’s, (1:27:31) so that’s what they don’t, (1:27:32) they don’t not make stuff. (1:27:34) So that James Patterson, (1:27:36) um, (1:27:36) is very well known fictional author.(1:27:39) One of the best selling authors of all times, (1:27:41) many books. (1:27:43) And he was a, (1:27:44) he wrote a book on this, (1:27:45) which then the book was made in the series. (1:27:47) So is it the, (1:27:51) is this what we’re, (1:27:52) they want us to know.(1:27:54) And I don’t like that day shit (1:27:55) because I don’t have my tinfoil hat on me. (1:27:58) So what is really going on? (1:28:02) Are there other things going on besides the (1:28:04) the massively unfortunate events (1:28:07) with all these young ladies? (1:28:09) Is there, (1:28:10) obviously, (1:28:11) um, (1:28:12) Clinton was there 24 times, (1:28:13) even though he denies it. (1:28:16) Uh, (1:28:16) the, (1:28:17) the Prince, (1:28:18) you know, (1:28:18) the number of famous people that have been on the Island, (1:28:20) Trump, (1:28:21) et cetera.(1:28:23) What is, (1:28:24) what was in the documentary? (1:28:27) All that happened, (1:28:28) or was there other shit that happened as well (1:28:30) that we don’t know about, (1:28:31) that we may never know? (1:28:33) That’s the question. (1:28:33) Right. (1:28:34) Which is why Epstein was killed.(1:28:35) Um, (1:28:36) absolutely. (1:28:37) I mean, (1:28:37) that could, (1:28:38) that, (1:28:38) that could be the reason. (1:28:39) So August 1st, (1:28:40) 2019, (1:28:41) here’s an article, (1:28:43) uh, (1:28:43) from NBC news.(1:28:45) Just a click, (1:28:45) which I’ll just read the, (1:28:46) I’ll just read the headline because it is clickbait, (1:28:48) but there it is. (1:28:49) Jeffrey Epstein’s bizarre blue stripe building on private Island raised alarm. (1:28:53) The building was supposed to be a music pavilion, (1:28:55) but the actual structure bears little resemblance to the plans that were submitted to agency officials.(1:29:01) So once again, (1:29:02) there’s even more curiosity. (1:29:04) I don’t even know what the plans for agency officials, (1:29:06) I don’t know if that’s the FBI or whatever, (1:29:08) but this building is weird. (1:29:09) It’s a weird looking building.(1:29:11) Bohemian growth. (1:29:12) Have you heard of Bohemian growth? (1:29:14) No. (1:29:14) Bohemian grows.(1:29:15) The one that Alex Jones, (1:29:17) uh, (1:29:18) took a video camera. (1:29:19) Okay. (1:29:20) Out in the woods.(1:29:21) It’s a play. (1:29:21) Bohemian Grove is actual place. (1:29:23) Okay.(1:29:23) And it’s a 60 acre, (1:29:25) a hundred acre, (1:29:25) whatever. (1:29:26) And all these rich people go in with their mass and they burn things in effigy and they (1:29:30) go and they do their little chance. (1:29:31) And he used to be all men.(1:29:31) Oh my God. (1:29:32) Is that that stuff fucking movie I watched? (1:29:34) Tom Cruise? (1:29:35) Skull and Bones one? (1:29:35) No. (1:29:37) The, (1:29:37) the one you made me watch that I hate you.(1:29:39) Oh no, (1:29:40) that’s a, (1:29:40) that’s the sex one, (1:29:41) bro. (1:29:41) Yeah. (1:29:42) But I think they do that too.(1:29:43) the other one. (1:29:44) Yeah. (1:29:44) I didn’t make you watch that.(1:29:45) I still haven’t watched that. (1:29:46) How could I make you watch it? (1:29:47) Cause I’m saving you from watching it. (1:29:49) But you, (1:29:50) you accuse me of telling you to watch it.(1:29:52) I would never tell you to watch something I’ve ever watched. (1:29:54) Yeah, (1:29:54) you would. (1:29:55) I say you want to watch it together.(1:29:58) I make popcorn and have sushi on Valentine’s day with me. (1:30:02) Oh my God. (1:30:02) Oh my God.(1:30:03) Um, (1:30:03) but to your point, (1:30:04) yeah, (1:30:04) this thing’s weird. (1:30:05) Um, (1:30:05) but anyway, (1:30:06) Bohemian Grows was a place for rituals and all these other things. (1:30:09) So it could be that.(1:30:10) But if there was a child sex thing on that, (1:30:12) it would just add more to the depth of the depravity of the child sexual acts or whatever. (1:30:22) Yes. (1:30:23) But I believe that this, (1:30:26) I believe this is just the tip of the iceberg.(1:30:28) I think Epstein is a, (1:30:31) a scapegoat. (1:30:32) And I think this problem is much bigger than we really know or understand. (1:30:36) You know, (1:30:37) I hear stuff about kids go missing, (1:30:40) you know? (1:30:42) So is this, (1:30:43) is there a, (1:30:45) is there a massive network underneath our noses? (1:30:49) And this was just one that got exposed and now it’s already off the radar.(1:30:55) You know, (1:30:56) it’s, (1:30:56) it came and went. (1:30:57) COVID came. (1:30:58) To your point, (1:30:59) agendas come and go.(1:31:01) Our attention gets shifted. (1:31:03) Wag the dog, (1:31:03) right? (1:31:04) Like, (1:31:04) yeah. (1:31:05) Distraction that welcome to the world, (1:31:07) man.(1:31:07) We, (1:31:07) we talk about that all the time because of the fact that it’s on Netflix. (1:31:11) Is this just what we’re being groomed to know? (1:31:16) And then is there a million other things going on just like this or worse? (1:31:23) But we’re never going to know that because, (1:31:25) oh yeah, (1:31:25) I saw that Netflix special and Epstein was guilty and now it’s, (1:31:29) everything’s fine. (1:31:30) Well, (1:31:30) it’s kind of like, (1:31:31) it reminds me of the, (1:31:32) the flying thing, (1:31:33) right? (1:31:33) Like you have a plane crash.(1:31:36) What’s like the worst fucking reasoning for the plane to crash? (1:31:40) Pilot error. (1:31:41) Why? (1:31:42) Oh, (1:31:42) the pilot’s gone. (1:31:43) So it won’t happen again.(1:31:45) You don’t know what fucking happened to the fucking thing that ended up killing (1:31:49) the guy like saying pilot error and that pilot’s gone, (1:31:52) right? (1:31:52) It’s kind of like your thing. (1:31:53) It’s Epstein error. (1:31:54) Well, (1:31:55) he’s gone.(1:31:55) I see. (1:31:56) So now there’s no, (1:31:57) now there’s no pedophilia because Epstein is gone. (1:32:00) Uh, (1:32:00) what? (1:32:01) No.(1:32:02) Yeah, (1:32:03) I get, (1:32:03) I get what you’re saying. (1:32:04) Um, (1:32:06) I don’t know. (1:32:08) I was almost a helicopter.(1:32:09) Uh, (1:32:11) I feel like it’s this. (1:32:14) I feel like Epstein with young women is just a fucking monster and he got (1:32:21) everyone to, (1:32:22) he got black dirt on all these other people and got all his wealth and (1:32:26) orchestrated and connected them all to do this. (1:32:28) And it’s a big network.(1:32:30) And when I, (1:32:30) we talk about ring, (1:32:31) right? (1:32:32) Charles said, (1:32:32) it’s not a ring. (1:32:32) And I get the ring thing, (1:32:33) but it is a network. (1:32:35) And there is usually, (1:32:36) there is some, (1:32:37) not hierarchy per se, (1:32:38) but there’s like a go to like, (1:32:40) who’s the expert in, (1:32:41) in, (1:32:42) in young women? (1:32:43) Epstein.(1:32:44) Who’s the, (1:32:45) who’s the expert? (1:32:46) I get it. (1:32:46) Orange, (1:32:46) puffy hair, (1:32:47) Trump, (1:32:47) like those kinds of things, (1:32:49) right? (1:32:49) Like, (1:32:50) who’s the, (1:32:50) who’s, (1:32:50) you know, (1:32:51) who’s the expert in Alzheimer’s ism, (1:32:53) but you know, (1:32:54) you know what I’m saying, (1:32:55) but that’s, (1:32:57) that’s where we’re at. (1:32:58) I don’t think he was any worse.(1:33:01) I think that the people who also delved in this world delve in the ritual, (1:33:07) possible satanic thing and the skull and bones and the effigy and the Merck, (1:33:11) like the really sinister stuff. (1:33:13) This is really sinister. (1:33:14) Yeah.(1:33:14) This guy was the best of this one portion of the sinisterness. (1:33:19) There are 10 other sinister things that people who did their toes in this (1:33:23) probably dipped their toes in that as well. (1:33:26) Does that make sense? (1:33:27) Yes.(1:33:27) Like the, (1:33:28) I would, (1:33:28) this Bohemian Grove thing I mentioned. (1:33:30) Yeah, (1:33:30) I, (1:33:30) I, (1:33:31) I don’t, (1:33:31) I have to look at that. (1:33:32) Yeah, (1:33:32) you have to look it up, (1:33:33) but basically this Bohemian Grove thing I mentioned would be one of those things.(1:33:36) I think it’s in California. (1:33:38) Wisconsin. (1:33:38) I have to look it up.(1:33:39) Okay, (1:33:39) nevermind. (1:33:39) I don’t want to know. (1:33:41) it comes up right away.(1:33:42) Was there a gender reveal party there? (1:33:43) No, (1:33:43) but it’s legit. (1:33:44) The guy, (1:33:44) he comes in with a camera and there’s this whole ritual thing going on and (1:33:49) they’ve got these outfits on. (1:33:51) So they’re, (1:33:51) no one’s seen, (1:33:52) they can’t tell who they are or whatever.(1:33:53) So they kind of get in, (1:33:54) get all this weird footage and it’s weird. (1:33:57) There’s, (1:33:57) you don’t know what the fuck’s going on, (1:33:59) but it’s just like chanting and, (1:34:01) you know, (1:34:02) and ritual things happen all the time. (1:34:04) Like a lot of people go through, (1:34:05) look at the Catholic church.(1:34:07) Every Sunday is ritual. (1:34:08) Every day. (1:34:09) You go through.(1:34:09) Oh yeah, (1:34:10) it’s true. (1:34:10) With my dad. (1:34:11) Yeah, (1:34:11) it’s true.(1:34:12) Every day. (1:34:13) And, (1:34:13) but when you go into church, (1:34:14) you follow that pattern of, (1:34:16) you know, (1:34:16) peace be with you and also with you and blah, (1:34:18) Like you follow this. (1:34:19) Yeah, (1:34:20) it’s called a missile.(1:34:21) Thank you. (1:34:22) It’s a script. (1:34:23) Hey, (1:34:24) you’re being groomed to be diddled by God.(1:34:27) That’s not cool, (1:34:28) man. (1:34:29) Okay. (1:34:29) Where else? (1:34:30) Last on the list, (1:34:31) sir.(1:34:31) And now, (1:34:31) now that you mentioned the building thing, (1:34:33) I did, (1:34:34) I didn’t look into the building thing, (1:34:35) but you mentioned a couple of times, (1:34:36) and I guess I should have looked more into it. (1:34:38) Okay. (1:34:38) I didn’t look at all.(1:34:39) So I apologize. (1:34:40) No, (1:34:40) that’s fine out there. (1:34:41) Now that I’ve just beer Googled this little simple thing, (1:34:43) I am now going to have to go down this rabbit hole.(1:34:46) You’re welcome, (1:34:47) bro. (1:34:47) I hate you for that, (1:34:48) but I love you. (1:34:48) I’m wondering, (1:34:49) what is it, (1:34:49) you know, (1:34:50) were there other things happening there? (1:34:51) What are their satanic rituals? (1:34:53) I don’t, (1:34:54) I mean, (1:34:54) who knows? (1:34:56) I mean, (1:34:56) and that I, (1:34:57) which I think is dumb, (1:34:58) but that’s fine.(1:34:58) So, (1:34:59) okay, (1:34:59) whatever. (1:35:00) What are your thoughts on everything? (1:35:02) On satanic rituals? (1:35:04) Oh, (1:35:04) I know you love them. (1:35:06) What are your thoughts on this building and the things missing now? (1:35:09) And when were the things taken off? (1:35:10) I don’t know.(1:35:11) there’s so many things to go that. (1:35:12) Yeah. (1:35:12) But what are your thoughts about this then? (1:35:14) What, (1:35:15) what rabbit hole and what of your friends and all your conversations? (1:35:18) Cause you and I really never had that conversation.(1:35:20) True. (1:35:21) Um, (1:35:21) I, (1:35:22) I think it’s terrifying that there were concrete altars, (1:35:26) and the statue, (1:35:28) the two statues of the pedophilia God, (1:35:33) it’s horrifying. (1:35:34) And was it like, (1:35:39) I automatically jumped to like, (1:35:40) was there fucking human sacrifice? (1:35:42) Like, (1:35:43) are we going back to the Mayan times where they would kill 10,000 people to (1:35:48) sacrifice their God on top of that Mayan pyramid and shit like that? (1:35:52) Is that, (1:35:54) that’s, (1:35:54) that’s possible.(1:35:55) I don’t know how probable that is. (1:35:58) And why would you do that? (1:36:00) Like you’re, (1:36:02) if you’re the person performing that ceremony or whatever ritual, (1:36:05) whatever, (1:36:06) what’s the point? (1:36:08) Because it gives you power. (1:36:09) I think you think it gives you power.(1:36:11) I don’t understand the, (1:36:12) the thought process, (1:36:14) the rationale behind doing stuff like that. (1:36:18) Why do you drink the blood of your first kill? (1:36:22) Cause your dad told you to do it. (1:36:23) And your fucking granddad told you to do it.(1:36:26) Right. (1:36:26) Cause it’s ritual. (1:36:27) Cause it’s a thing about being spirit with the animal, (1:36:29) right? (1:36:29) Who knows how these fucking people work, (1:36:32) man, (1:36:32) this ritual stuff, (1:36:34) killing and sacrifice.(1:36:35) That could just be part, (1:36:36) not even that it’s to the guy. (1:36:37) Like they don’t have to believe in this stuff. (1:36:39) It’s just for the ritual of it.(1:36:40) To your point, (1:36:40) just the power and the whatever. (1:36:42) I’m very confused by that, (1:36:44) by the idea that that’s, (1:36:48) I don’t, (1:36:48) I don’t get it. (1:36:49) I don’t understand.(1:36:50) Like, (1:36:50) because I don’t give, (1:36:52) I don’t give Satan any credence. (1:36:54) You know what I mean? (1:36:56) There’s no saying no God. (1:36:57) I don’t think you.(1:36:58) Correct. (1:36:59) In my, (1:37:00) in my world. (1:37:00) In your world, (1:37:01) no God and no Satan, (1:37:03) correct? (1:37:03) So I don’t, (1:37:04) when I joke about heavy metal and stuff like that, (1:37:07) it’s a joke because I don’t give Satan any credit (1:37:11) or credence or power or control.(1:37:12) I have no fear of that. (1:37:14) I think it’s fucking dumb, (1:37:15) but that’s my, (1:37:17) that’s purely my. (1:37:17) You don’t even have a belief system based around him.(1:37:19) Correct. (1:37:19) That’s purely my opinion that I just think it’s fucking dumb. (1:37:23) So, (1:37:23) okay.(1:37:24) You want to dance around and I just don’t hurt anybody else. (1:37:28) That’s, (1:37:29) yeah, (1:37:29) that’s all I really care about. (1:37:31) Live and let live, (1:37:32) man.(1:37:32) All right, (1:37:32) man. (1:37:33) Lastly, (1:37:34) lastly on the list on the list, (1:37:36) miss Maxwell. (1:37:38) She is currently in federal prison in New York on sex trafficking charges and some other shit.(1:37:46) July 2021. (1:37:47) Yeah. (1:37:48) So her just to be trial date didn’t.(1:37:51) Okay. (1:37:52) Jelaine Maxwell denied bail ahead of July 2021 trial. (1:37:57) So I guess my main question is why did she do that? (1:38:03) Why did she recruit other girl? (1:38:06) Why did she recruit girls? (1:38:08) If she’s supposedly Epstein’s girlfriend, (1:38:12) why, (1:38:12) why did she get off on it? (1:38:15) Did, (1:38:15) was it a power thing for her? (1:38:18) And there was, (1:38:19) there was one young lady who said that she had sex with both of them with, (1:38:23) with Maxwell and Epstein.(1:38:26) What’s the, (1:38:27) why did she do what she did? (1:38:29) I guess I just did that. (1:38:31) That dynamic. (1:38:32) I really struggle with because it’s not normal.(1:38:35) It’s not. (1:38:36) I mean, (1:38:36) it could be true love and then you just get sucked up and I mean you could. (1:38:40) I’ve heard weird people do weird things with emotions or it was she brainwashed by him.(1:38:46) Could have been. (1:38:47) She just, (1:38:48) I don’t know their history. (1:38:50) Well, (1:38:50) I honestly don’t know that.(1:38:51) I honestly know nothing about their history. (1:38:53) Question is this for me. (1:38:57) When’s the last time you were any of this? (1:38:59) Not, (1:38:59) not looking for never.(1:39:01) Right. (1:39:01) So why the fuck is this not every day? (1:39:04) Jelaine Maxwell is a fucking deeming. (1:39:06) If you know anything or any other children, (1:39:07) like every day there should be cries out to any other people touched or harmed for, (1:39:14) from this specific thing.(1:39:15) Cause it seems like it was so large in my opinion. (1:39:18) Absolutely. (1:39:18) I mean, (1:39:18) you’re talking to a hundred plus.(1:39:20) No one talks about it. (1:39:21) Yeah. (1:39:21) Why? (1:39:22) Cause of who owns the mainstream media.(1:39:23) Well, (1:39:24) COVID and look at the next shiny object to, (1:39:26) to quote you, (1:39:27) which I is completely accurate is now we have, (1:39:30) Oh, (1:39:31) let’s move along. (1:39:32) Oh, (1:39:32) we’re not being distracted enough. (1:39:33) Let’s do this.(1:39:34) But it’s the shiny object they give us. (1:39:36) Yeah, (1:39:37) of course. (1:39:37) They’re giving us the shiny object because the people who run the mainstream media once (1:39:42) again are the people with the money who probably have connections to Epstein who had him (1:39:47) killed in the first place.(1:39:47) I really wouldn’t, (1:39:48) would not be surprised if major media moguls were on that Island too. (1:39:54) I’m full of shit today. (1:39:55) I know.(1:39:56) I need to stop talking. (1:39:57) Okay. (1:39:57) Good idea.(1:39:59) It was, (1:39:59) it’s been a great show. (1:40:00) Mark’s done. (1:40:06) He’s got sushi on his mind, (1:40:08) bro.(1:40:08) I do. (1:40:08) I have total sushi on my mind, (1:40:09) but I also, (1:40:10) $4 rolls. (1:40:11) I’m also $4.(1:40:12) Spicy donut roll, (1:40:14) bro. (1:40:15) V day at all the Hana. (1:40:18) I just came up on your calendar.(1:40:20) Yes. (1:40:20) Yeah, (1:40:21) you’re welcome. (1:40:21) I’m a calendar guy.(1:40:22) And no, (1:40:23) no, (1:40:23) I love it. (1:40:23) Thank you, (1:40:23) sir. (1:40:24) Go team Virgo.(1:40:24) It’s not a Hana. (1:40:25) It’s going to be Sakara, (1:40:26) Sakura, (1:40:26) Sakura, (1:40:27) Sakura, (1:40:27) whatever, (1:40:28) whichever one it is. (1:40:28) They also have sushi, (1:40:29) so we’re good.(1:40:30) They both. (1:40:30) Yeah, (1:40:30) they’re right next to each other basically almost. (1:40:33) Um, (1:40:34) yeah, (1:40:34) I hope that what I said made any sense.(1:40:38) I feel like I, (1:40:39) I feel like I stuck my foot in my mouth a lot today and I didn’t, (1:40:42) that was not the intention, (1:40:43) but it’s delicious. (1:40:45) I’m glad you washed it first. (1:40:47) I also would like to know what does everybody else think? (1:40:50) Do you, (1:40:51) did Epstein kill himself or not? (1:40:52) Did, (1:40:53) why aren’t more victims coming out? (1:40:55) Leave us a comment.(1:40:56) Do you, (1:40:56) did, (1:40:57) what do you think is going to happen to Maxwell? (1:40:58) Does she have dirt on people and is she, (1:41:02) is her life in danger? (1:41:03) Cause she knows probably 80% of what Epstein knew, (1:41:06) right? (1:41:07) Is there documentation for very influential, (1:41:10) famous people? (1:41:11) Is there blackmail? (1:41:12) Blackmail on those people? (1:41:13) What does everybody think? (1:41:14) What are the precautions you’re taking to protect her? (1:41:17) Yeah. (1:41:17) For example, (1:41:18) is she in the suicide watch? (1:41:19) Is she, (1:41:20) is, (1:41:21) are her guards asleep? (1:41:22) Is her camera off? (1:41:23) Like, (1:41:26) And she might be dead and we don’t even know. (1:41:29) Like that information may never have been released.(1:41:31) Yeah. (1:41:32) I just saw an article, (1:41:33) something about January, (1:41:34) her asking to push something back. (1:41:35) So maybe, (1:41:36) who knows though, (1:41:36) right? (1:41:37) You don’t know.(1:41:37) It could all be a paperwork. (1:41:38) Yeah. (1:41:38) But also because of COVID thing, (1:41:42) you know, (1:41:43) trials are being delayed because you can’t have jury people (1:41:46) sitting next to each other and blah, (1:41:47) whatever the fuck I’m trying to say.(1:41:49) Well, (1:41:49) this date, (1:41:50) this date was set last July, (1:41:51) a year. (1:41:52) It was basically July, (1:41:52) 2020, (1:41:53) right? (1:41:54) So this might get pushed back. (1:41:56) I’m just saying this is the, (1:41:57) this is the date that’s current in place, (1:41:59) but it was so far down the road.(1:42:01) How did, (1:42:02) when was Epstein supposed to happen? (1:42:03) I didn’t, (1:42:04) I don’t know. (1:42:04) That’s the question. (1:42:06) 2019, (1:42:06) 2020.(1:42:06) I don’t know. (1:42:07) I didn’t know if it was a year late. (1:42:09) It was, (1:42:09) well, (1:42:09) I mean, (1:42:10) he was in jail before he fucking, (1:42:11) he was arrested July, (1:42:12) 2019.(1:42:13) So I don’t know when, (1:42:14) I don’t know when the trial was going to be. (1:42:15) I don’t know either. (1:42:16) And I guess I should have looked that fucking.(1:42:17) Nah, (1:42:18) fuck it. (1:42:18) But the thing is, (1:42:19) he was dead in August. (1:42:20) Well, (1:42:20) this is a year.(1:42:21) You’re going to give someone that much time to fucking find a way (1:42:24) to kill this person. (1:42:25) That’s the way I’d look at it. (1:42:27) I don’t have to find it.(1:42:28) And then when no one’s, (1:42:28) because no one’s looking, (1:42:30) no one, (1:42:30) nobody cares anymore. (1:42:32) And again, (1:42:33) shiny object, (1:42:34) and we’re not paying attention. (1:42:36) Yeah.(1:42:36) And I’ve looked it up probably once a month to see if what’s up with her (1:42:39) trial, (1:42:40) et cetera. (1:42:40) Yeah, (1:42:41) exactly. (1:42:41) And what do you, (1:42:42) what do you find? (1:42:42) Same thing.(1:42:43) She’s still in New York at the, (1:42:45) at the jail and the trials pending. (1:42:52) Anything else on this Maxwell? (1:42:54) No. (1:42:55) Does she have dirt on people? (1:42:56) Well, (1:42:57) she must, (1:42:57) I mean, (1:42:58) she’s right there with him.(1:43:02) And if she did come out, (1:43:04) what would, (1:43:04) if there was this, (1:43:06) if there was a 60 minutes interview with her in jail, (1:43:08) would people believe her? (1:43:10) If somebody said, (1:43:11) if she said, (1:43:12) Oh yeah, (1:43:12) Prince Andrew, (1:43:13) he slept with that girl. (1:43:15) Well then it’s her word against his word, (1:43:17) right? (1:43:17) Then who do you believe? (1:43:19) This girl that’s in jail or. (1:43:22) I would believe the two stories over his, (1:43:25) cause his is so fucking riddled with holes.(1:43:27) that’s maybe not a good example. (1:43:28) And her, (1:43:29) and their seem pretty Bulletproof. (1:43:30) I mean, (1:43:31) Bulletproof, (1:43:32) at least she knows she met him.(1:43:33) There’s a picture of them. (1:43:34) Yeah. (1:43:35) And I, (1:43:36) they talk about the doctoring of the picture.(1:43:37) I’m sorry. (1:43:38) Come on guys. (1:43:38) Can we fucking, (1:43:39) I don’t remember that part.(1:43:40) It was on the interview. (1:43:40) I apologize. (1:43:41) Okay.(1:43:41) Sorry. (1:43:42) I conflated the two. (1:43:43) Um, (1:43:44) in this case though, (1:43:45) like I’m wondering if Jelaine was like, (1:43:50) the second he died, (1:43:51) second, (1:43:52) they fucking, (1:43:53) she’s reaching out to everyone, (1:43:55) all the powers that be going, (1:43:57) what do you, (1:43:57) I’ll give you all your stuff back.(1:43:59) Just don’t kill me. (1:44:00) Yeah. (1:44:01) Like you, (1:44:02) I would bet she would freak.(1:44:05) I don’t know. (1:44:05) These seem like pretty calm collected people (1:44:07) and pretty like Bulletproof, (1:44:09) but when it comes down, (1:44:11) when the, (1:44:11) when the, (1:44:12) when the fuzz is coming down on you, (1:44:13) the chips are on the line or whatever. (1:44:15) When they, (1:44:16) I don’t know.(1:44:17) You’re basically in your last like breath here. (1:44:22) I’d probably be reaching out to everyone going, (1:44:25) um, (1:44:26) what did Jeff have on you? (1:44:28) I’ll find it. (1:44:29) I’ll get, (1:44:29) I’ll get it to you.(1:44:30) I, (1:44:30) or, (1:44:30) or whatever, (1:44:31) or what, (1:44:31) you know, (1:44:32) Hey, (1:44:32) uh, (1:44:33) I know his archive place, (1:44:35) his vault, (1:44:35) right? (1:44:36) Everyone’s welcome to come. (1:44:38) We’ll have big fuck fest and we’ll burn the vault or whatever. (1:44:41) I don’t, (1:44:42) you know what I’m saying? (1:44:42) Like I just met with each other, (1:44:43) like the adults, (1:44:44) but the adults.(1:44:45) Okay. (1:44:45) I’m glad that was clarified. (1:44:47) Oh, (1:44:47) old people.(1:44:48) I’m having a rough day. (1:44:49) Apparently you got sushi on your brain, (1:44:51) man. (1:44:51) Yeah.(1:44:52) I, (1:44:52) you know what it is. (1:44:52) I think I got mercury on the brain from the sushi that I love. (1:44:55) Yes, (1:44:56) but that’s all I have, (1:44:57) dude.(1:44:57) Okay. (1:44:57) Well, (1:44:58) this has been pretty cool. (1:44:59) I thought, (1:44:59) I didn’t know what we were going to do with this, (1:45:01) but I didn’t know what to expect either.(1:45:02) Yeah. (1:45:02) It turned out, (1:45:03) it hasn’t been nearly as horrible as I suspected. (1:45:05) No, (1:45:05) but it’s a tough subject, (1:45:07) but it’s a hard, (1:45:08) it’s a horrible act.(1:45:09) And we’ve, (1:45:09) it’s weird that we’ve touched on it now four or five times throughout. (1:45:14) Just, (1:45:14) you know, (1:45:15) yeah. (1:45:15) Tyson Catholic.(1:45:17) Yeah. (1:45:17) Michael Jackson, (1:45:18) Michael Jackson, (1:45:19) Shu Berry. (1:45:19) This right.(1:45:21) Um, (1:45:22) and it’s going to come again, (1:45:23) but once again, (1:45:23) you and I, (1:45:24) why are, (1:45:25) how, (1:45:26) where are these champions for children and we don’t have children? (1:45:29) It’s like the weirdest fucking thing. (1:45:31) We’re creepers, (1:45:32) bro. (1:45:32) We’re mid 40 year olds who, (1:45:33) who like support and encourage children.(1:45:36) I know. (1:45:36) I just like Lego, (1:45:37) man. (1:45:38) That’s true.(1:45:39) You, (1:45:39) how’s the Lego project going? (1:45:41) I got five minutes left, (1:45:42) dude. (1:45:42) Really? (1:45:42) Yup. (1:45:44) Did you take a picture? (1:45:46) Nope.(1:45:47) No, (1:45:47) I got five minutes. (1:45:47) You literally have five minutes. (1:45:48) Yeah.(1:45:48) How many pieces left? (1:45:50) Yeah. (1:45:51) 10 pieces. (1:45:51) Yeah.(1:45:51) Like eight. (1:45:53) What’s the total time? (1:45:55) What’s the clock? (1:45:55) What’s the clock run so far? (1:45:57) Do you have a total or do you have to add them? (1:45:59) No, (1:45:59) no. (1:45:59) I have a total standby.(1:46:00) Okay. (1:46:00) I need, (1:46:00) okay. (1:46:01) The Millennium Falcon 7,500 pieces.(1:46:03) I’m currently at 38 hours, (1:46:06) 45 minutes. (1:46:07) Oh, (1:46:07) that’s shorter than the other one. (1:46:08) No, (1:46:09) the other one was 33.(1:46:10) Yeah, (1:46:10) but, (1:46:10) but the other one’s way more pieces. (1:46:12) So like I left pieces, (1:46:13) right? (1:46:13) That’s what I mean. (1:46:14) Your pace, (1:46:14) yes, (1:46:15) my pace was, (1:46:16) did increase.(1:46:17) Because they told you it was going to be longer than that. (1:46:19) Right, (1:46:19) but the pieces were much smaller. (1:46:21) Right.(1:46:21) I know. (1:46:21) I’m just saying though, (1:46:23) your assembly, (1:46:24) my dexterity, (1:46:25) your assembly skill is improving exponentially. (1:46:27) I am an advanced assembler.(1:46:29) All right. (1:46:29) Can we eat? (1:46:30) Yeah. (1:46:30) Get the fuck out of here.(1:46:31) Well, (1:46:31) this has been Epstein on Valentine’s Day. (1:46:34) This is the weirdest fucking time. (1:46:35) That’s not cool, (1:46:35) man.(1:46:36) I don’t, (1:46:36) I feel bad about that. (1:46:37) Yeah. (1:46:37) And I feel bad for all the, (1:46:38) all the victims and all the survivors.(1:46:42) I, (1:46:42) I mean that, (1:46:43) that show is hard to watch sometimes. (1:46:45) And I, (1:46:46) I, (1:46:46) I wish them all the best. (1:46:49) I know there’s that, (1:46:50) you know, (1:46:50) they have those weird poster, (1:46:51) like slogans, (1:46:53) like defund the police, (1:46:54) or something like that.(1:46:55) It’s like that whole believe the victim. (1:46:57) I’m not a fan of the believe the victim thing, (1:46:59) or believe the accuser, (1:47:00) that believe the accuser phrase. (1:47:01) However, (1:47:03) listen to the accuser.(1:47:05) Follow fucking up. (1:47:06) Don’t just dismiss it. (1:47:07) Don’t drop the ball.(1:47:08) You know what I mean? (1:47:08) Yeah. (1:47:09) Like, (1:47:09) I love it. (1:47:10) Cause some people are like, (1:47:11) believe the accuser.(1:47:12) I’m like, (1:47:12) well, (1:47:12) I think that you should just vet, (1:47:14) once again, (1:47:15) everything. (1:47:16) Yeah, (1:47:16) who’s lying, (1:47:17) I guess, (1:47:17) right? (1:47:18) Yeah. (1:47:18) And that’s all it is.(1:47:19) Obviously, (1:47:20) this is a horrible situation. (1:47:22) My heart goes out to, (1:47:23) Yeah. (1:47:24) Any, (1:47:25) anyone that, (1:47:26) that was not of any age to consent, (1:47:29) who had things done to them, (1:47:31) in any way, (1:47:32) at any second, (1:47:33) of any part of humanity.(1:47:34) I, (1:47:36) it breaks my fucking heart. (1:47:41) I agree completely. (1:47:44) That’s all we have.(1:47:46) Do we want to end it? (1:47:46) Do we want to end on a good note? (1:47:48) It’s always a good note. (1:47:49) Sushi time, bro. (1:47:50) It’s always two good notes.(1:47:51) Two good notes. (1:47:52) Be excellent to each other, (1:47:53) and party on, dudes.